BoxBuzz wrote:I don't disagree yance......but in his specific case he ended up taking his fantasies with facts to the point where he was mucking about with the data base.
So I think he earned the scorn of too many people to find forgiveness again.
I enjoy the strange and unusual opinions. (got a few myself.) I don't even mind the name calling to a degree, because it gives me a chance to attempt to see if I can appeal to the better angels of folks.
I like striving mightily for peace within diversity. Don't even mind being the rodeo clown, and getting the wrong end of the bull from time to time.
But when the Gran/Duce went beyond just unique opining, and insult slinging, to actual real "digital damage" to the database, those who set the parameters, found him to be over the line.
We have a rule about insults....it may even be a bit too strict for a fight forum....I mean c'mon...many of the fighters themselves live by them. So that's very rarely been the reason for banishment.....we got some room for tempers, I think the only time that has been the straw is when someone has added hounding, or threatening someone. Insults get attention, threats get the board of education.
....and Yancey........FYI
.... I noticed that when I responded to your post it somehow disappeared both from my quote and from the thread...........if I clumsily did this please forgive....it was not intentional....and is a mystery to me....unless you deleted
it while I was responding? I've never seen that happen before....
No, I didn't delete. but no big deal. Don't worry about it.
Caractacus wrote:All I know is in two months time it will be two years since Il Duece
was vapourized from this forum and some certain posters seem still kind of obsessed with him.
Perhaps they should go seek some professional help ?
keithmoonhangover wrote:I respect a lot of the posters on here. There is a lot of knowledge, but there are also some stubborn wankers. If you're wrong, just fvcking admit it. I hate the petty squabbles and I'm as guilty as anyone. I don't post very much at all these days, mainly because of a one particular arsehole.
It's a shame, because this could be something special. I prefer one of the forums on Facebook, where you can talk to some of the actual boxers you discuss.
Who's the arsehole??
I think many forums have glory periods or quieter times....
I wish I could visit more often. Such a great drummer like yourself is needed here!!!
keithmoonhangover wrote:I respect a lot of the posters on here. There is a lot of knowledge, but there are also some stubborn wankers. If you're wrong, just fvcking admit it. I hate the petty squabbles and I'm as guilty as anyone. I don't post very much at all these days, mainly because of a one particular arsehole.
It's a shame, because this could be something special. I prefer one of the forums on Facebook, where you can talk to some of the actual boxers you discuss.
Who's the arsehole??
I think many forums have glory periods or quieter times....
I wish I could visit more often. Such a great drummer like yourself is needed here!!!
I'm not going to name names, but lets just say, that the person in question called me a junkie, because I was taking prescribed pain killers after I had some surgery. I've got no time for wankers like that.
keithmoonhangover wrote:I respect a lot of the posters on here. There is a lot of knowledge, but there are also some stubborn wankers. If you're wrong, just fvcking admit it. I hate the petty squabbles and I'm as guilty as anyone. I don't post very much at all these days, mainly because of a one particular arsehole.
It's a shame, because this could be something special. I prefer one of the forums on Facebook, where you can talk to some of the actual boxers you discuss.
Who's the arsehole??
I think many forums have glory periods or quieter times....
I wish I could visit more often. Such a great drummer like yourself is needed here!!!
I'm not going to name names, but lets just say, that the person in question called me a junkie, because I was taking prescribed pain killers after I had some surgery. I've got no time for wankers like that.
It's a shame to let anyone put you off.You are a great asset to the forum. I almost walked twice with Il Duce (sorry to go against the grain) and also when I just started and SaadofftheDeck ripped into me. Now, of course I couldn't care less. And maybe you should care less also. It makes me laugh ; in 41 years of my life no one has ever disrespected me to my face or been offensive to me or called me an idiot... Yet people on the internet might call me an idiot..they never have to my face...
keithmoonhangover wrote:I respect a lot of the posters on here. There is a lot of knowledge, but there are also some stubborn wankers. If you're wrong, just fvcking admit it. I hate the petty squabbles and I'm as guilty as anyone. I don't post very much at all these days, mainly because of a one particular arsehole.
It's a shame, because this could be something special. I prefer one of the forums on Facebook, where you can talk to some of the actual boxers you discuss.
Who's the arsehole??
I think many forums have glory periods or quieter times....
I wish I could visit more often. Such a great drummer like yourself is needed here!!!
I'm not going to name names, but lets just say, that the person in question called me a junkie, because I was taking prescribed pain killers after I had some surgery. I've got no time for wankers like that.
As long as you know the truth dont worry about what some anonymous joker says.
evrenb wrote:
Who's the arsehole??
I think many forums have glory periods or quieter times....
I wish I could visit more often. Such a great drummer like yourself is needed here!!!
I'm not going to name names, but lets just say, that the person in question called me a junkie, because I was taking prescribed pain killers after I had some surgery. I've got no time for wankers like that.
As long as you know the truth dont worry about what some anonymous joker says.
Yeah man. I'm on stronger pills now, but back seeing the surgeon tomorrow, so happy days.
Caractacus wrote:so which fight results that were added to the boxrec database did Il Duece falsify ?
involving which fighters ?
Cant we even discuss it here ?
That doesnt sound quite normal consdidering this is a discussion forum if you were to ask me
where you cant even bring it up apparently.
Didn't you just say people who talk about Douche are mentally ill?
Caractacus wrote:All I know is in two months time it will be two years since Il Duece
was vapourized from this forum and some certain posters seem still kind of obsessed with him.
Perhaps they should go seek some professional help ?
You are the one who keeps mentioning him.
It was Judah Ben Fur then Boxbuzz who first brought up Il Duece again in this thread you sniveling twit.
Maybe its time for thicker glassess ?
What i liked about duce was he used to scan magazine pieces from the time and than start a discussion.
Simple but very cool.
Any discussion on here is far more interesting when it is discusse with a regard to the actual view of the time rather than just hindsight and tomfoolery like happens any time u discuss tyson 85-91.
Duce went against the prevailing winds.
But he violated those who shant be violated.
In regards to the sacred boxrec database......his crimes were without number.......his villainy without end.......so he had to go....he threatened our very existence
What do you care. The kid was a complete fraud. He made up 90% of what he posted. How many times was he caught lying and called out on it. Its always been remarkable to me that some would rather listen to him lie simply because he was lying about a subject they were interested in rather than have him booted because he offered nothing to the discussion. But then again Im replying to a guy who constantly posts his tinfoil hat conspiracies and who has, more than once, been accused of being Il Duce himself.
What do I care ?
Why should you care that i would care ?
Im asking who this supposedly "Naive" moderator was that this was done to.
and which fighters involved and which fight results were said to have been phoney.
and who was it here (either another moderator or poster)that deemed such fight results to be phoney ?
and what were their credentials to back up this claim that the were fake ?
and what was their evidence was that these said fight results were indeed fake ?
Im sure a lot of posters here would like to know was well.
Let's start with coherency....what do you mean by "done to"?
I don't think there was a moderator that had anything "done to" them.
So I'm at a loss at what your attempting to communicate here.
As far as the data base....as I understand it, he conned his way in, via building trust with someone,(not a mod) and then went about having a good time with his imagined "facts" and popped them right in.
Sort of doing things along the line of changing outcomes, etc. Things to suit his fancy.
well obviously it had to have been a moderator who added these so called "Falsified" results to the Boxrec database
and also had to have been one to have them removed.
(unless someone hacked into it like at the cyberboxingzone a number years back).
BTW How can a "non-mod" have access to get into the database ?
Who is this non-mod answerable to ?
Caractacus wrote:well obviously it had to have been a moderator who added these so called "Falsified" results to the Boxrec database
and also had to have been one to have them removed.
(unless someone hacked into it like at the cyberboxingzone a number years back).
BTW How can a "non-mod" have access to get into the database ?
Who is this non-mod answerable to ?
Brutu, stop trolling and get back to planning the "Two Years since my Hero was Banned" party in honour of The Duchess.
Caractacus wrote:well obviously it had to have been a moderator who added these so called "Falsified" results to the Boxrec database
and also had to have been one to have them removed.
(unless someone hacked into it like at the cyberboxingzone a number years back).
BTW How can a "non-mod" have access to get into the database ?
Who is this non-mod answerable to ?
Brutu, stop trolling and get back to planning the "Two Years since my Hero was Banned" party in honour of The Duchess.
Caractucus does post some decent stuff so I don't understand the love for the Douchess
Duce was a serious forum irritant as well, continually writing long fantasy pieces about fights and fighters, inventing quotes. Future researchers should thank the boxing gods his entire oeuvre was erased.
