will there be a tyson-wlad II?

[Lancenix]

in my opinion i see joshua as just a knockout waiting to happen
i think parker will surpass him.

What on earth makes you think that Parker will surpass Joshua?

joshua is a KO waiting to happen

I will say that he did get cracked in his last fight and was stunned but there is nothing really to support what you are saying.

[Lancenix]

Don't forget that every time a man steps in the ring he is putting his life on the line.

i for myself try to never forget that
and as well how very, very difficult
it is in this sport to come close to
the spotlights. we as the comfortable
viewer are always smart from our seats
so far from the ring.

Well said and that is why I say don't hate on the pay. It takes a long way to get there.

[Lancenix]

Didn't Wlad come out firing in round 4 of the first fight after his corner told him needed to put it all on Fury? How did that go?

Wlad simply doesn't know how to deal with a tricky fighter who has reach and stamina on him, and who is not at a speed disadvantage. When he tried to engage in the first fight Fury was up to the task. He is not going to turn himself into a proper pressure fighter at 40 years old.

Even in his younger, more offensive-minded incarnation, he beat guys up at a distance using speed and reach, not head movement and inside fighting. Fury is just a bad style for him, much more so now given the age gap. Barring a bomb landing or Fury spending camp at Nando's, the rematch goes the same way.

This is a really good post and the more he thinks about this the bigger and bigger chance this fight has of not happening.

[Tanzio]

Didn't Wlad come out firing in round 4 of the first fight after his corner told him needed to put it all on Fury? How did that go?

Wlad simply doesn't know how to deal with a tricky fighter who has reach and stamina on him, and who is not at a speed disadvantage. When he tried to engage in the first fight Fury was up to the task. He is not going to turn himself into a proper pressure fighter at 40 years old.

Even in his younger, more offensive-minded incarnation, he beat guys up at a distance using speed and reach, not head movement and inside fighting. Fury is just a bad style for him, much more so now given the age gap. Barring a bomb landing or Fury spending camp at Nando's, the rematch goes the same way.

This is a really good post and the more he thinks about this the bigger and bigger chance this fight has of not happening.

Hopefully WKlit decides to retire soon.

[Ilya Muromets]

Wladimir Klitschko remaining focused on heavyweight rematch with Tyson Fury

8 MAR 2016
BY DAVID ANDERSON

The Englishman shocked Klitschko back in November with victory in Dusseldorf, and now the Ukrainian wants revenge



Wladimir Klitschko insists he remains focused on facing Tyson Fury in a rematch.

Klitschko today took to social media to deny claims he will retire rather than fight Fury again.

The former world heavyweight king says he wants his belts back from Fury and is ticking over in training while the rival camps negotiate a rematch.

The Ukrainian said on Twitter: "Rematch vs @Tyson_Fury still in the making. I will keep you posted.Meanwhile staying in shape."





http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/wl ... ht-7516845

[gregor]

Hope the fight won't happen. I can see more action in one round of Ike-Tua than in whole Fury-Wlad fight. I really do not get why the are getting such ridiculous paydays. I mean, I know TV are paying most of it, but that means that either TV management keeps making completely wrong business decisions for years (as this is not the first awful fight by Wlad)... or there are actually somewhere people willing to watch it.

Why are you hating on their pay? This never makes sense to me when people do this. If you think it is so easy get in the ring and try it out. See how easy it is or how it goes for ya. Then talk about the pay. Don't forget that every time a man steps in the ring he is putting his life on the line.

This has nothing to do with it. I admit Wlad is always in shape, and probably works harder than most. And for the record - I have no hate against any fighter, I do not care much what they are doing outside the ring (and anyway if I would, Wlad seems to be decent guy personally... I really wish him best).

But, coming back to boxing, there is only limited money there... if TV stations pay ~50 mln $ for unwatchable fights (like for example Fury-Wlad was for me), this simply means that there will be no money left for potentially better bouts.

[Lancenix]

Hope the fight won't happen. I can see more action in one round of Ike-Tua than in whole Fury-Wlad fight. I really do not get why the are getting such ridiculous paydays. I mean, I know TV are paying most of it, but that means that either TV management keeps making completely wrong business decisions for years (as this is not the first awful fight by Wlad)... or there are actually somewhere people willing to watch it.

Why are you hating on their pay? This never makes sense to me when people do this. If you think it is so easy get in the ring and try it out. See how easy it is or how it goes for ya. Then talk about the pay. Don't forget that every time a man steps in the ring he is putting his life on the line.

This has nothing to do with it. I admit Wlad is always in shape, and probably works harder than most. And for the record - I have no hate against any fighter, I do not care much what they are doing outside the ring (and anyway if I would, Wlad seems to be decent guy personally... I really wish him best).

But, coming back to boxing, there is only limited money there... if TV stations pay ~50 mln $ for unwatchable fights (like for example Fury-Wlad was for me), this simply means that there will be no money left for potentially better bouts.

Oh that is not true at all. If there are good fights and people want to see them the money will be there. To say this fight is sucking money from another fight just is not true.

[Lancenix]

June 4th. Fury vs. Klitschko in Austria. This is tentative. Finals details being finalized.

[Rob3_142]

I actually thought the first match was quite intriguing. Of course it won't be lauded and a thrill a minute fight, but it was a really tactical and cagey affair. There was a real contrast of styles between the two, and you could really see how Klitchko was struggling to get close to Fury, due to the awkward stance, good movement and long range of his jab.

Truth be told, I cannot remember the last 'Super fight' which lived up to expectations, so by that reckoning, we probably shouldn't have another one. But we will, because they drive the sport, and create the hype.

I look forward to the next fight because the shoes are on the opposite feet now. Klitchko has nothing to lose, he knows what it feels like to go 12 rounds with someone like Fury. He's a smart guy, and would extremely doubt that the fight would go the same as the last. I still expect Fury to come through on points, but it be closer this time. Klitchko needs to get on the inside, and throw longer combo's. Easier said than done though.

[sweetviolenturge]

I've no doubt in my mind that the fight will happen. I just think that both sides are playing hard ball in the negotiations & ironing them all out is going to be tough. I just hope they get the deal done soon so we can see them fight before the summer is over.

As for the contest itself, I believe we'll see Wlad knock Fury out in the rematch if he's truly motivated & mentally 110% into it. Which he most definitely was not back in November.
That Klitschko showed up in physically good shape like he always does because he's such an absolutely dedicated professional. But, other than showing up in good condition, he didn't really show up to fight. I believe he was unmotivated, much like he was in his previous fight with Bryant Jennings. Plus, he was dealing with rather severe personal issues in regards to his wife's battle with post-partum depression & I don't think he wasn't to go away to training camp for six weeks while this was going on.
I don't think he was focused on the task at hand & he had no one in his camp who could get him on track mentally like a Manny Steward could. Now, I don't want to disparage Johnathan Banks here too much, but let's be honest. Wladimir hasn't really looked good in any of his bouts since Steward's passing aside from the Pulev fight.
I'm sure Banks is just fine as far as putting Klitschko through the paces in the gym & getting him into shape, but I don't believe that he has the ability to get inside Wlad's head & get him mentally & emotionally ready.
So, why do I think Fury II will be different?
I believe that Wlad has a lot of pride & I think his legacy is extremely important to him. I know he won't want to be remembered for going out with a second desultory points loss to Tyson Fury. So, he'll be very self-motivated to regain the titles & even the score vs Fury. And, with just a few technical changes & a whole lot more offensive output, I think he'll do just that.
Via KO in about round 8.

[Ilya Muromets]

Good posts the last two, especially SweetV, who I agree with. I think fight two will be the opposite of fight one and a very exciting slug fest with both men landing hard punches and getting staggered, and then I too pick Wlad by KO...and then of course will come the big #3 playoff in England.

[man]

June 4th. Fury vs. Klitschko in Austria. This is tentative. Finals details being finalized.

ah, ... no. that won't happen.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I've no doubt in my mind that the fight will happen. I just think that both sides are playing hard ball in the negotiations & ironing them all out is going to be tough. I just hope they get the deal done soon so we can see them fight before the summer is over.

As for the contest itself, I believe we'll see Wlad knock Fury out in the rematch if he's truly motivated & mentally 110% into it. Which he most definitely was not back in November.
That Klitschko showed up in physically good shape like he always does because he's such an absolutely dedicated professional. But, other than showing up in good condition, he didn't really show up to fight. I believe he was unmotivated, much like he was in his previous fight with Bryant Jennings. Plus, he was dealing with rather severe personal issues in regards to his wife's battle with post-partum depression & I don't think he wasn't to go away to training camp for six weeks while this was going on.
I don't think he was focused on the task at hand & he had no one in his camp who could get him on track mentally like a Manny Steward could. Now, I don't want to disparage Johnathan Banks here too much, but let's be honest. Wladimir hasn't really looked good in any of his bouts since Steward's passing aside from the Pulev fight.
I'm sure Banks is just fine as far as putting Klitschko through the paces in the gym & getting him into shape, but I don't believe that he has the ability to get inside Wlad's head & get him mentally & emotionally ready.
So, why do I think Fury II will be different?
I believe that Wlad has a lot of pride & I think his legacy is extremely important to him. I know he won't want to be remembered for going out with a second desultory points loss to Tyson Fury. So, he'll be very self-motivated to regain the titles & even the score vs Fury. And, with just a few technical changes & a whole lot more offensive output, I think he'll do just that.
Via KO in about round 8.

A compelling argument, but at 40 - will he be able to pull the trigger quick and often enough.

One of the things you see with older fighters is that they become increasingly hestitant, because as their reflexes decay, people are able to counter them. Saw it with Holyfield and Mosley as they got older. They just can't quite commit to their shots and so they become far more beatable.

I suspect this is what will happen here again.

[Lancenix]

June 4th. Fury vs. Klitschko in Austria. This is tentative. Finals details being finalized.

ah, ... no. that won't happen.

Why? That is being reported by Yahoo sports and CBS.

[Wales]

June 4th. Fury vs. Klitschko in Austria. This is tentative. Finals details being finalized.

ah, ... no. that won't happen.

Why? That is being reported by Yahoo sports and CBS.

A german adopted ukranian fighting against a Brit in a country, Austria, thats never held a major fight (has it?)

[Lancenix]

ah, ... no. that won't happen.

Why? That is being reported by Yahoo sports and CBS.

A german adopted ukranian fighting against a Brit in a country, Austria, thats never held a major fight (has it?)

I know right seemed weird but type it into a search box. It will come up. Check it out.

[Wales]

Also rumours it was going to be on a boat, off shore of dubai, woth only 120 people there each paying million pound a ticket

[Lancenix]

Also rumours it was going to be on a boat, off shore of dubai, woth only 120 people there each paying million pound a ticket

That would be great. I'd still be watching.

[Lancenix]

Also rumours it was going to be on a boat, off shore of dubai, woth only 120 people there each paying million pound a ticket

Go and type it in a search box seriously. Klitschko Fury Austria. It is gonna happen June of 2016! Book it@!!

[Wales]

Also rumours it was going to be on a boat, off shore of dubai, woth only 120 people there each paying million pound a ticket

That would be great. I'd still be watching.

No, part of deal was no tv! Just 50-50 split of 100m quid

[Lancenix]

Also rumours it was going to be on a boat, off shore of dubai, woth only 120 people there each paying million pound a ticket

That would be great. I'd still be watching.

No, part of deal was no tv! Just 50-50 split of 100m quid

True. They would not need me or cameras with a deal like that. ThaT will happen someday I am sure in the not too distant future.

[man]

June 4th. Fury vs. Klitschko in Austria. This is tentative. Finals details being finalized.

ah, ... no. that won't happen.

Why? That is being reported by Yahoo sports and CBS.

because i know austria and boxing does not
exist there. literally. it would be absurd to
stage a fight of this magnitude in a country
where no one would show up for the fight.

[man]

I know right seemed weird but type it into a search box. It will come up. Check it out.

sorry to break this to you: not everything
that pops up in an internet search is true.
seriously, austria never staged a world
title fight in any weight class except for
one relatively obscure one twenty years
ago. austria had one european level boxer
in all of his history. there was never a top
ten heavy weight fight in austria. i am not
making this up. there is no way they risk
having an empty stadium when they can
fill up any in germany or england.

[Lancenix]

I know right seemed weird but type it into a search box. It will come up. Check it out.

sorry to break this to you: not everything
that pops up in an internet search is true.
seriously, austria never staged a world
title fight in any weight class except for
one relatively obscure one twenty years
ago. austria had one european level boxer
in all of his history. there was never a top
ten heavy weight fight in austria. i am not
making this up. there is no way they risk
having an empty stadium when they can
fill up any in germany or england.

If it happens as has been reported by CBS and Yahoo sports I want your BIG FAT butt right back here to eat your crow that is all I am saying. If not I'll come and find ya. "Not everything that pops on the internet is true." Really dummy? I did not know that. Like I said if it gets done I want your fat butt back on this thread. Your logic for the fight not being there is just dumb. June 4 Austria Klitschko-Fury. You had better PRAY it does not happen.

[Evander]

The honeymoon is nearly over for both of them.
No warm ups straight into it as long as it happens this year.
Yes they will rematch.