I think Karo could have been an all-time great welterweight (on the level of guys like Fitch and Shields) but he had substance abuse problems and never kept himself in top shape. He's still only 33 years old which is kind of amazing.danamba7 wrote:
Bloody hell yeah forgot about Karo! Gamburyan's cousin weren't he? I remember the Diaz brothers having a spat with them on TUF 5 because Karo beat Nick a couple years before. Good times!
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Just had a quick look on wiki. Some mad names on his record win or lose. Noticed the Diego Sanchez fight won FOTY 2006. I actually cant remember that fight so might try and find it on YouTube later. Hardcases them 2.jujigatame wrote:I think Karo could have been an all-time great welterweight (on the level of guys like Fitch and Shields) but he had substance abuse problems and never kept himself in top shape. He's still only 33 years old which is kind of amazing.danamba7 wrote:
Bloody hell yeah forgot about Karo! Gamburyan's cousin weren't he? I remember the Diaz brothers having a spat with them on TUF 5 because Karo beat Nick a couple years before. Good times!
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Karo was a punk, though. Pickin on Nate when he was pretty much a little git.danamba7 wrote:Bloody hell yeah forgot about Karo! Gamburyan's cousin weren't he? I remember the Diaz brothers having a spat with them on TUF 5 because Karo beat Nick a couple years before. Good times!Tomasino wrote:
That's around the time I'm on about mate, it totally turned me off...i didn't want to use Rhonda as an example because she hasn't really beat any highly skilled fighters yet but yes, her judo was really effective. Karo Parisian is the last guy I can remember openly being talked up for his Judo skills. Rab seems to have completely stopped training it.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2a509 ... karo_sport
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Impractical Poster wrote:Karo was a punk, though. Pickin on Nate when he was pretty much a little git.danamba7 wrote:Bloody hell yeah forgot about Karo! Gamburyan's cousin weren't he? I remember the Diaz brothers having a spat with them on TUF 5 because Karo beat Nick a couple years before. Good times!Tomasino wrote:
That's around the time I'm on about mate, it totally turned me off...i didn't want to use Rhonda as an example because she hasn't really beat any highly skilled fighters yet but yes, her judo was really effective. Karo Parisian is the last guy I can remember openly being talked up for his Judo skills. Rab seems to have completely stopped training it.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2a509 ... karo_sport
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Karo was supposed to get a title shot against Hughes in 2005 but he got injured and never made it back to that level. Hard to believe he was only 23 at the time. What a waste.
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Yeah. That season was a good one. A lot of memorable fighters came from that season. Nate Diaz, Manny Gamburian, Gray Maynard, Joe Lauzon, Corey Hill, Cole Miller, Matt Wiman...danamba7 wrote:
That's it! Class series that was.
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jujigatame wrote:Karo was supposed to get a title shot against Hughes in 2005 but he got injured and never made it back to that level. Hard to believe he was only 23 at the time. What a waste.
What's your thoughts on Judo in mma Jujigatame? Have there been guys other than Karo? I tought he was a prick when he picked on Nate but they are probably same age. Karo had a lot of talent but seemed to have a huge chip on his shoulder.. Shame about his substance problems, he had some great throws.
Yes Dan he was Mannys cousin. That was the best season for me. I have not watched many more since.
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Lombard was an Olympic judoka was he not? Never really uses it though.Tomasino wrote:jujigatame wrote:Karo was supposed to get a title shot against Hughes in 2005 but he got injured and never made it back to that level. Hard to believe he was only 23 at the time. What a waste.
What's your thoughts on Judo in mma Jujigatame? Have there been guys other than Karo? I'm cost he was a prick when he picked on Nate but they are probably same age, Karo had a lot of talent. Shame about his problems, he had some great throws.
Yes Dan he was Mannys cousin. That was the best season for me. I have not watched many more since.
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Mma now legal in new york city
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Oiky wrote:Mma now legal in new york city
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200 will be in Vegas.Impractical Poster wrote:Oiky wrote:Mma now legal in new york cityWas only a matter of time. I'll be surprised if 200 isn't in NY with this news.
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Things can change, the UFC wants a massive event In NYC, none will be bigger than 200Lancenix wrote:200 will be in Vegas.Impractical Poster wrote:Oiky wrote:Mma now legal in new york cityWas only a matter of time. I'll be surprised if 200 isn't in NY with this news.
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Nah the logistics do not add up there at all. Vegas.p4p1 wrote:Things can change, the UFC wants a massive event In NYC, none will be bigger than 200Lancenix wrote:200 will be in Vegas.Impractical Poster wrote:Was only a matter of time. I'll be surprised if 200 isn't in NY with this news.
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danamba7 wrote:Impractical Poster wrote:Karo was a punk, though. Pickin on Nate when he was pretty much a little git.danamba7 wrote:
Bloody hell yeah forgot about Karo! Gamburyan's cousin weren't he? I remember the Diaz brothers having a spat with them on TUF 5 because Karo beat Nick a couple years before. Good times!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2a509 ... karo_sportThat's it! Class series that was.
Watching that again, what an asshole Karo is. I'd have loved to have seen Nate hit him one.
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Yeah 5 was definitely the best. Remember the crazy fight in the garden?Tomasino wrote:jujigatame wrote:Karo was supposed to get a title shot against Hughes in 2005 but he got injured and never made it back to that level. Hard to believe he was only 23 at the time. What a waste.
What's your thoughts on Judo in mma Jujigatame? Have there been guys other than Karo? I tought he was a prick when he picked on Nate but they are probably same age. Karo had a lot of talent but seemed to have a huge chip on his shoulder.. Shame about his substance problems, he had some great throws.
Yes Dan he was Mannys cousin. That was the best season for me. I have not watched many more since.
This was only part of it. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2rva7 ... ate_people
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NYC would be huge for 200 but then again the first NYC card will be huge regardless. 200 is nailed on for Vegas because it's the first UFC event at that new 20,000 seat arena.Lancenix wrote:Nah the logistics do not add up there at all. Vegas.p4p1 wrote:Things can change, the UFC wants a massive event In NYC, none will be bigger than 200Lancenix wrote:
200 will be in Vegas.
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danamba7 wrote:Yeah 5 was definitely the best. Remember the crazy fight in the garden?Tomasino wrote:jujigatame wrote:Karo was supposed to get a title shot against Hughes in 2005 but he got injured and never made it back to that level. Hard to believe he was only 23 at the time. What a waste.
What's your thoughts on Judo in mma Jujigatame? Have there been guys other than Karo? I tought he was a prick when he picked on Nate but they are probably same age. Karo had a lot of talent but seemed to have a huge chip on his shoulder.. Shame about his substance problems, he had some great throws.
Yes Dan he was Mannys cousin. That was the best season for me. I have not watched many more since.
This was only part of it. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2rva7 ... ate_people
I think that's what turned me off a bit. No need for the drunk fighting when you can do it in the cage...didn't Chris Leben do something similar? I really disliked that guy. I'm sure the next two seasons they tried to out do the crazy drunk shit from season 5 and I just never watched it again.
I see Karos been KOd a couple of times in first round. Nate would punk him these days
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There have been some good seasons since. The season with Matt Brown was a good one... Same with the season with Junie Browning. The HW season with Kimbo was a good one as well.Tomasino wrote:
I think that's what turned me off a bit. No need for the drunk fighting when you can do it in the cage...didn't Chris Leben do something similar? I really disliked that guy. I'm sure the next two seasons they tried to out do the crazy drunk poo from season 5 and I just never watched it again.
I see Karos been KOd a couple of times in first round. Nate would punk him these days
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Yeah. Just read that Lorenzo is shooting for a NY show late in the year. Possibly 2 before the end of the year. Then 4 fights per year in the state there after.danamba7 wrote:
NYC would be huge for 200 but then again the first NYC card will be huge regardless. 200 is nailed on for Vegas because it's the first UFC event at that new 20,000 seat arena.
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Yeah series 8 was good. Junie was a mad man. Also had Bader, Kingsbury, Tom Lawlor, Krzysztof Soszynski and Efrain Escudero.Impractical Poster wrote:There have been some good seasons since. The season with Matt Brown was a good one... Same with the season with Junie Browning. The HW season with Kimbo was a good one as well.Tomasino wrote:
I think that's what turned me off a bit. No need for the drunk fighting when you can do it in the cage...didn't Chris Leben do something similar? I really disliked that guy. I'm sure the next two seasons they tried to out do the crazy drunk poo from season 5 and I just never watched it again.
I see Karos been KOd a couple of times in first round. Nate would punk him these days
I remember that idiot Lightweight David Kaplan saying he can take a punch from anyone, even the LHWs and convinced Tom Lawlor to take a free shot. Of course, he ended up snoring.
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You planning on going to any? Only a short flight for you aint it?Impractical Poster wrote:Yeah. Just read that Lorenzo is shooting for a NY show late in the year. Possibly 2 before the end of the year. Then 4 fights per year in the state there after.danamba7 wrote:
NYC would be huge for 200 but then again the first NYC card will be huge regardless. 200 is nailed on for Vegas because it's the first UFC event at that new 20,000 seat arena.
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Possibly. It's just up the coast from me. 7-8 hour drive. I'm mainly happy to see it legalized in such a historic state.danamba7 wrote:You planning on going to any? Only a short flight for you aint it?Impractical Poster wrote:Yeah. Just read that Lorenzo is shooting for a NY show late in the year. Possibly 2 before the end of the year. Then 4 fights per year in the state there after.danamba7 wrote:
NYC would be huge for 200 but then again the first NYC card will be huge regardless. 200 is nailed on for Vegas because it's the first UFC event at that new 20,000 seat arena.
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danamba7 wrote:Yeah series 8 was good. Junie was a mad man. Also had Bader, Kingsbury, Tom Lawlor, Krzysztof Soszynski and Efrain Escudero.Impractical Poster wrote:There have been some good seasons since. The season with Matt Brown was a good one... Same with the season with Junie Browning. The HW season with Kimbo was a good one as well.Tomasino wrote:
I think that's what turned me off a bit. No need for the drunk fighting when you can do it in the cage...didn't Chris Leben do something similar? I really disliked that guy. I'm sure the next two seasons they tried to out do the crazy drunk poo from season 5 and I just never watched it again.
I see Karos been KOd a couple of times in first round. Nate would punk him these days
I remember that idiot Lightweight David Kaplan saying he can take a punch from anyone, even the LHWs and convinced Tom Lawlor to take a free shot. Of course, he ended up snoring.
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I think it can be a very good base. Clinchwork is so damn important in MMA, guys like Randy Couture have shown you don't need to base your entire stand-up grappling game on single and double legs. I think the reason you don't see as many judoka as wrestlers is because MMA is still mostly popular in the US and in the US judo simply isn't a very popular pasttime.Tomasino wrote:jujigatame wrote:Karo was supposed to get a title shot against Hughes in 2005 but he got injured and never made it back to that level. Hard to believe he was only 23 at the time. What a waste.
What's your thoughts on Judo in mma Jujigatame? Have there been guys other than Karo? I tought he was a prick when he picked on Nate but they are probably same age. Karo had a lot of talent but seemed to have a huge chip on his shoulder.. Shame about his substance problems, he had some great throws.
Yes Dan he was Mannys cousin. That was the best season for me. I have not watched many more since.
Don't forget, Fedor was more or less a judoka.