Give me a chance! You shouldn't get rattled, as a boxing fan you should know keeping your cool is the name of the game. If you look at my posts I have never said Tyson was bad. I actually said he dominated in a poor era which is not his fault. What I'm trying to say is that his ability is over stated and when he came up against someone half decent he either went the distance or got beat. You must take off your rose tinted specs mate! I acknowledge Lewis' faults mainly of taking people lightly but he avenged his defeats so doesn't that make him a true champion..to learn and come back better? I just think Lewis fought better guys then Tyson although he was not in the best era of HW boxing. But you still didn't answer my questions you are avoiding them. Should I write them out clearly so you can answer them?
But to answer your question again ....Tyson was beaten in his prime by Douglas and don't use the excuse that he wasn't fit. One of the biggest shocks ever. Lewis was beaten in his prime but he learnt and came back better!
Tyson Could've Been The Greatest, Hands Down.
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Arsenal wrote:And one more thing are you saying Lewis was in his prime from 1994-2001 (28-36) when he retired two years later but Tyson was only in his prime 1985-1990 (19-24)? So by 24 Tyson was shot but at 36 Lewis was in his prime?
You really know f**k all.
With regards your question getting KOed or beaten by someone lesser when in your prime means you cannot be classed as an all time great?
I would have thought about that question a bit before you asked it. Being KOed doesn't make you a bad boxer neither does getting beat by someone lesser especially if you revenge that defeat. As far as I'm aware according to your definition of great only Marciano would be an all time great HW?
u can use that logic. everyone primes differentley.
jersey joe walcotts prime was 1947-52 ages 33-38 years old
alis prime was 1964-67 ages 22-25 years old
as for tyson, my opinion is tyson was never the same after he lost rooney. i noticed signs of changes in his fighting style for the worse.
tysons prime 1986-90 but his peak was 1988. i might add though tysons was in his prime 89 and 90, he was without rooney and he was already on the downcline and it showed in a very vunerable showing vs bruno. i might add tyson was not at his best vs douglas.
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IMO, Tyson could/would have been the greatest HW ever, but it did not turn out that way; it's hypothetical!
However, let me state this: Physically, Mike Tyson was the most talented HW ever! People may say Ali deserves this accolade, but no one in history combined speed & power the way Tyson did, the way Mike had it!
For such an offensive fighter, Tyson in his prime, had very good defensive and boxing skills, attributes he was not given enough credit for during his hey-day. When Mike fought Carl Williams, the commentator, Reg Gutteridge, stated that Mike 'has a great deal of ability to go with his power & intimidation.'
Tyson had the potentail, ability and the CHANCE to be the greatest HW ever, but it did not happen. This was down to Mike and other people, forces etc. People can say if Cus D'Amato would have stayed alive.... but Cus was old, and Mike would have had to dealt with his death @ some point!
However, I do feel if Mike would have stayed with Kevin Rooney, he would have go on & broken Rocky Marciano's record of 49-0! Rooney knew Tyson physically, but more crucial to the point, he knew him mentally. Mike knew he could not take liberties with regards to training when Kevin was his trainer. Also, when with Rooney, problems/distractions outside the ring, were left outside the ring. Tuson-Spinks is a good example of this: Mike was going through madness in his private life; his wife had supposedly had a miscarriage, Don King was lurching everywhere (he even went to Jimmy Jacobs funeral without an invite), Cayton was trying to keep his fighter etc. With all this going on around him, Tyson still trained hard, put the work in gave a great performance come fight time!
I feel Tyson was only a percentage of the fighter he could have become/would have been in the Spinks fight, and this is widely regarded as his best night ever! Remember, he was only 22 in 1988, his prime may not have occurred umtil at least 5yrs later! I also wish Mike had been able to fight Lewis & Holyfield when in his prime. When he did fight these guys, Tyson was nowhere near the fighter he was @ his peak!
I am not making excuses for the defeats, Tyson lost and that's what counts, goes down in Boxing books etc.
This subject will always open to debate. I do reckon Mike Tyson would/could have been the greatest HW ever! Boy, the HW division could do with a 'young Tyson right now!'
However, let me state this: Physically, Mike Tyson was the most talented HW ever! People may say Ali deserves this accolade, but no one in history combined speed & power the way Tyson did, the way Mike had it!
For such an offensive fighter, Tyson in his prime, had very good defensive and boxing skills, attributes he was not given enough credit for during his hey-day. When Mike fought Carl Williams, the commentator, Reg Gutteridge, stated that Mike 'has a great deal of ability to go with his power & intimidation.'
Tyson had the potentail, ability and the CHANCE to be the greatest HW ever, but it did not happen. This was down to Mike and other people, forces etc. People can say if Cus D'Amato would have stayed alive.... but Cus was old, and Mike would have had to dealt with his death @ some point!
However, I do feel if Mike would have stayed with Kevin Rooney, he would have go on & broken Rocky Marciano's record of 49-0! Rooney knew Tyson physically, but more crucial to the point, he knew him mentally. Mike knew he could not take liberties with regards to training when Kevin was his trainer. Also, when with Rooney, problems/distractions outside the ring, were left outside the ring. Tuson-Spinks is a good example of this: Mike was going through madness in his private life; his wife had supposedly had a miscarriage, Don King was lurching everywhere (he even went to Jimmy Jacobs funeral without an invite), Cayton was trying to keep his fighter etc. With all this going on around him, Tyson still trained hard, put the work in gave a great performance come fight time!
I feel Tyson was only a percentage of the fighter he could have become/would have been in the Spinks fight, and this is widely regarded as his best night ever! Remember, he was only 22 in 1988, his prime may not have occurred umtil at least 5yrs later! I also wish Mike had been able to fight Lewis & Holyfield when in his prime. When he did fight these guys, Tyson was nowhere near the fighter he was @ his peak!
I am not making excuses for the defeats, Tyson lost and that's what counts, goes down in Boxing books etc.
This subject will always open to debate. I do reckon Mike Tyson would/could have been the greatest HW ever! Boy, the HW division could do with a 'young Tyson right now!'
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Arsenal wrote:BB49 do you think a fighter who was only dominant for 3 years can be classed as an all time great?
he dominated 4 years against top notch competition and most of the alpha champs, unlike holmes who fought a lot of 2nd rate fighters.
marciano dominated only 4 years, is he an all time great?
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>>>marciano dominated only 4 years, is he an all time great?<<<
Many others as well! It's not the amount of time that a fighter is on top, it's what that fighter accomplishes during that time, which Tyson was very, very dominate and unbeatable in that time!
Many others as well! It's not the amount of time that a fighter is on top, it's what that fighter accomplishes during that time, which Tyson was very, very dominate and unbeatable in that time!
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Why does any topic about Tyson always descend into a Lewis -v- Tyson argument? 
They were not really rivals at all.
When Tyson was in his pomp, Lewis was still an amateur. When Lewis rose up & started dominating, Tyson was in prison.
By the time the 2 of them could actually fight each other, Tyson was past it & Lewis was on top of the world.
They were not really rivals at all.
When Tyson was in his pomp, Lewis was still an amateur. When Lewis rose up & started dominating, Tyson was in prison.
By the time the 2 of them could actually fight each other, Tyson was past it & Lewis was on top of the world.
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I partially agree with this statement.barry wrote:>>>I suppose Buster Douglas was a fluke and Tyson hadn't trained at all for the fight!<<<
Well if you think that Tyson was primed, ready and in any kind of actual condition for that bout then stupid doesn't cover what comes to mind. I guess you probably rank Lewis in your top five...right...that can sometimes happen when you only have one champion every 100 years or so to represent...it doesn't matter that Lewis was knocked out by two moderatley good heavyweights while in his prime...not once, but twice. A prime Tyson would absolutely destroy Lennox Lewis...the only way Lewis could beat Tyson is to do as he did and wait until Tyson is about 15 years past his prime and then go after him because a young Tyson would definately..."Eat his Children!"
Lewis' and Tyson's primes were a good decade apart. Lewis was much better post McCall, when his gaping flaws were tightened up. Tyson however was already in decline by the time he got to Douglas, and never recovered from the tailspin.
Had Tyson and Lewis fought around the time Lewis was in his first run as champ, I think Tyson would have gone right through him, however, I think there is a little doubt about this, as Tyson was intimidated by Lewis, as he was by certain other fighters. Having sparred as 16 year olds, when Lewis handled Tyson with ease, Tyson reportedly never wanted to face Lewis as a pro.
Lewis hit his prime in his 30's, Tyson in his 20's, the best Tyson against the best Lewis would have been a pretty even contest, though Tyson's speed would have given him a shot as Lewis could take a while to warm up.
Tyson was destined to unravel as a fighter, had he had the mental fortitude of an Ali to with his physical gifts of innate speed and power he would have been all but unbeatable, but he was what he was, a gifted but flawed fighter who lacked the mental strength to stay at the top for more than a few years.
Holyfield was already in decline when Tyson and he fought, Tyson physically was still nearer his prime, but Evander knew deep down that he had Tyson's number.
Had they fought the first time around, I think the Tyson who lost to Douglas would have beaten Evander, who was still growing into heavyweight.
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Holyfield was already in decline when Tyson and he fought, Tyson physically was still nearer his prime, but Evander knew deep down that he had Tyson's number.
disagree holyfields peak was the tyson fight, he was in his heavyweight prime. never did holyfield fight a better fight than the tyson fight. tyson may have been younger, but he was a lot more past his prime than holyfield. everyone primes differentley. tyson was 8 years past his prime.
Disagree. Holyfield was NOT at his peak for the Tyson fight. He was just well prepared for a fighter who was tailor made for his style, end of story.BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:
Holyfield was already in decline when Tyson and he fought, Tyson physically was still nearer his prime, but Evander knew deep down that he had Tyson's number.
disagree holyfields peak was the tyson fight, he was in his heavyweight prime. never did holyfield fight a better fight than the tyson fight. tyson may have been younger, but he was a lot more past his prime than holyfield. everyone primes differentley. tyson was 8 years past his prime.
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evndrbsn wrote:Disagree. Holyfield was NOT at his peak for the Tyson fight. He was just well prepared for a fighter who was tailor made for his style, end of story.BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:
Holyfield was already in decline when Tyson and he fought, Tyson physically was still nearer his prime, but Evander knew deep down that he had Tyson's number.
disagree holyfields peak was the tyson fight, he was in his heavyweight prime. never did holyfield fight a better fight than the tyson fight. tyson may have been younger, but he was a lot more past his prime than holyfield. everyone primes differentley. tyson was 8 years past his prime.
so ur telling me his prime was when he was losing to riddick "i love to come in overweight" bowe and michael glass jaw moorer?
or perhaps was it when he struggled with old sloppy well past his prime george foreman and ancient well past his prime larry holmes?
or was his prime when he was nearly knocked out by journeyman bert cooper?
holyfields peak was tyson fight. holyfield never looked better @ heavyweight than he did at that fight
Thats because Tyson was tailor made for him. Tyson was vulnerable to clinches and a short heavyweight, something Holyfield could take advantage of with his style.BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:evndrbsn wrote:Disagree. Holyfield was NOT at his peak for the Tyson fight. He was just well prepared for a fighter who was tailor made for his style, end of story.BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:
disagree holyfields peak was the tyson fight, he was in his heavyweight prime. never did holyfield fight a better fight than the tyson fight. tyson may have been younger, but he was a lot more past his prime than holyfield. everyone primes differentley. tyson was 8 years past his prime.
so ur telling me his prime was when he was losing to riddick "i love to come in overweight" bowe and michael glass jaw moorer?
or perhaps was it when he struggled with old sloppy well past his prime george foreman and ancient well past his prime larry holmes?
or was his prime when he was nearly knocked out by journeyman bert cooper?
holyfields peak was tyson fight. holyfield never looked better @ heavyweight than he did at that fight
And by the way, Holyfield was not nearly KO'd by Bert Cooper. Cooper caught him with a fantastic shot but Holyfield was in no danger of having the fight stopped. Besides that moment, Holyfield beat the living piss out of Cooper. Cooper was also a late replacement for two other fighters, Mike Tyson and then Francesco Damiani. Holyfield had little time to prepare for Cooper and was most likely underestimating him and he still beat him clearly.
At last some decent comments. However how can people say Holyfield was in his prime when he fought Tyson? And lets not forget Holyfield was never a genuine HW.
Barry sometimes you have to accept that you may be wrong. However for some reason you think you have the authority to always be right, why? Cos you have a few thousnad posts? The last few comments have been constructive even if they are pro Tyson. I can accept these arguments but you just never back up your statements. I'll have to frame your quote about Lewis not being a true champion because he got knocked out and that doesn't happen to true champions. I tell you mate this thread has made you look like a mug and shows you know little about boxing!
Barry sometimes you have to accept that you may be wrong. However for some reason you think you have the authority to always be right, why? Cos you have a few thousnad posts? The last few comments have been constructive even if they are pro Tyson. I can accept these arguments but you just never back up your statements. I'll have to frame your quote about Lewis not being a true champion because he got knocked out and that doesn't happen to true champions. I tell you mate this thread has made you look like a mug and shows you know little about boxing!
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>>>However for some reason you think you have the authority to always be right, why?<<<
Because I know what I am talking about and you don't...it's as simple as that...sorry, that's just how life is, some people are better knowledged than others, unfortunately you fall into the latter category!
>>>I can accept these arguments but you just never back up your statements.<<<
I don't...well then explain to me where I am lacking...In what way do I fail to back up my statements?
>>>I'll have to frame your quote about Lewis not being a true champion because he got knocked out and that doesn't happen to true champions.<<<
As usual, when people are losing arguments they tend to make up crap like you have just demostrated! I never said that Lewis was not a true champion now did I...It's alright, I understand that people like you always have to make up shit when they try to debate with me because thats all you can do! Now there are other people who do know what they're talking about and I get along with them fine...I think a big part of is that they are not bothered by the jealousy that eats at a couple of you!
If I wanted, I could very easily use your "defensive-style" of argument and frame your quote where you stated that Tyson was not a true champion, but I prefer to actually make sense when debating boxing..but I have to say, you're quote is as stupid a statement as I have heard, and believe me...that's saying a lot when you have someone like Decagon spewing out silly nonsense at the consistently high rate that he does.
>>>I tell you mate this thread has made you look like a mug and shows you know little about boxing!<<<
If it makes you feel better, then by all means...keep telling yourself that, but just under the surface you know as well as I and everyone else that you could not carry my "jock-strap" when it comes to boxing...maybe one day you might be able to know half of what I do, but I doubt it! However, I will tutor you for a pretty fair rate.
Because I know what I am talking about and you don't...it's as simple as that...sorry, that's just how life is, some people are better knowledged than others, unfortunately you fall into the latter category!
>>>I can accept these arguments but you just never back up your statements.<<<
I don't...well then explain to me where I am lacking...In what way do I fail to back up my statements?
>>>I'll have to frame your quote about Lewis not being a true champion because he got knocked out and that doesn't happen to true champions.<<<
As usual, when people are losing arguments they tend to make up crap like you have just demostrated! I never said that Lewis was not a true champion now did I...It's alright, I understand that people like you always have to make up shit when they try to debate with me because thats all you can do! Now there are other people who do know what they're talking about and I get along with them fine...I think a big part of is that they are not bothered by the jealousy that eats at a couple of you!
If I wanted, I could very easily use your "defensive-style" of argument and frame your quote where you stated that Tyson was not a true champion, but I prefer to actually make sense when debating boxing..but I have to say, you're quote is as stupid a statement as I have heard, and believe me...that's saying a lot when you have someone like Decagon spewing out silly nonsense at the consistently high rate that he does.
>>>I tell you mate this thread has made you look like a mug and shows you know little about boxing!<<<
If it makes you feel better, then by all means...keep telling yourself that, but just under the surface you know as well as I and everyone else that you could not carry my "jock-strap" when it comes to boxing...maybe one day you might be able to know half of what I do, but I doubt it! However, I will tutor you for a pretty fair rate.
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I partially agree with this statement.
Lewis' and Tyson's primes were a good decade apart. Lewis was much better post McCall, when his gaping flaws were tightened up. Tyson however was already in decline by the time he got to Douglas, and never recovered from the tailspin.
Had Tyson and Lewis fought around the time Lewis was in his first run as champ, I think Tyson would have gone right through him, however, I think there is a little doubt about this, as Tyson was intimidated by Lewis, as he was by certain other fighters. Having sparred as 16 year olds, when Lewis handled Tyson with ease, Tyson reportedly never wanted to face Lewis as a pro.
Lewis hit his prime in his 30's, Tyson in his 20's, the best Tyson against the best Lewis would have been a pretty even contest, though Tyson's speed would have given him a shot as Lewis could take a while to warm up.
Tyson was destined to unravel as a fighter, had he had the mental fortitude of an Ali to with his physical gifts of innate speed and power he would have been all but unbeatable, but he was what he was, a gifted but flawed fighter who lacked the mental strength to stay at the top for more than a few years.
Holyfield was already in decline when Tyson and he fought, Tyson physically was still nearer his prime, but Evander knew deep down that he had Tyson's number.
Had they fought the first time around, I think the Tyson who lost to Douglas would have beaten Evander, who was still growing into heavyweight.
As to Holyfield being in his prime, I think he was well past his prime when he fought Tyson, but he was able to rise to the occassion one more time and put forth probably the best performance of his career when he beat Tyson. He was certainly on the down-slide with the piss-poor performace against Moorer and Bowe and really did not look good against Bobby Czyz, but against Tyson he fought like the Holyfield who went in against the likes of Dwight Qawi. Leading up to the bout I thought Tyson looked very good. In his second bout against Bruno he looked like the Tyson of old. He threw and landed combo's very nicely and seemed to have his defense pretty solid. Of course Seldon almost passed out before the bell rang to start that fight and Tyson gained nothing from that win, but against Bruno and Mathis he looked very good and while he certainly was not in his prime any more, he still was operating at a very high percentage and Holyfield just bullied him and took the fight to Tyson like no one had ever done before, not even Douglas.
In they're primes though I would still take Tyson. Mainly because of his speed and the fact that Holyfield was always there to be hit and that is something that the Tyson of 1987, or 1988 would have taken full advantage of.
Lewis' and Tyson's primes were a good decade apart. Lewis was much better post McCall, when his gaping flaws were tightened up. Tyson however was already in decline by the time he got to Douglas, and never recovered from the tailspin.
Had Tyson and Lewis fought around the time Lewis was in his first run as champ, I think Tyson would have gone right through him, however, I think there is a little doubt about this, as Tyson was intimidated by Lewis, as he was by certain other fighters. Having sparred as 16 year olds, when Lewis handled Tyson with ease, Tyson reportedly never wanted to face Lewis as a pro.
Lewis hit his prime in his 30's, Tyson in his 20's, the best Tyson against the best Lewis would have been a pretty even contest, though Tyson's speed would have given him a shot as Lewis could take a while to warm up.
Tyson was destined to unravel as a fighter, had he had the mental fortitude of an Ali to with his physical gifts of innate speed and power he would have been all but unbeatable, but he was what he was, a gifted but flawed fighter who lacked the mental strength to stay at the top for more than a few years.
Holyfield was already in decline when Tyson and he fought, Tyson physically was still nearer his prime, but Evander knew deep down that he had Tyson's number.
Had they fought the first time around, I think the Tyson who lost to Douglas would have beaten Evander, who was still growing into heavyweight.
As to Holyfield being in his prime, I think he was well past his prime when he fought Tyson, but he was able to rise to the occassion one more time and put forth probably the best performance of his career when he beat Tyson. He was certainly on the down-slide with the piss-poor performace against Moorer and Bowe and really did not look good against Bobby Czyz, but against Tyson he fought like the Holyfield who went in against the likes of Dwight Qawi. Leading up to the bout I thought Tyson looked very good. In his second bout against Bruno he looked like the Tyson of old. He threw and landed combo's very nicely and seemed to have his defense pretty solid. Of course Seldon almost passed out before the bell rang to start that fight and Tyson gained nothing from that win, but against Bruno and Mathis he looked very good and while he certainly was not in his prime any more, he still was operating at a very high percentage and Holyfield just bullied him and took the fight to Tyson like no one had ever done before, not even Douglas.
In they're primes though I would still take Tyson. Mainly because of his speed and the fact that Holyfield was always there to be hit and that is something that the Tyson of 1987, or 1988 would have taken full advantage of.
"Sorry, but a true champion would not have gotten knocked out to start with and being that it happened to Lewis twice in an even weaker era than what Tyson fought in, well it doesn’t speak of a “true champion.”
So what are you saying here then Barry? You are seriously deluded because you can't even remember what you say? The fact you think Tyson is some kind of god shows you know nothing! Look at his career properly not just the bums he fought for years. He always struggled against big, tough, decent boxers who fought back and were not scared. you state he looked good after he came out of prison against Bruno etc. So why did he pay Lewis millions not to fight him? An earlier post said about when they sparred when they were younger and Lewis handled Tyson easy. Face facts that Tyson looked awesome against crap oppenents but mediocre against decnt boxers! I can't believe a guy who beat bums for two years is being touted as an all time great.
So what are you saying here then Barry? You are seriously deluded because you can't even remember what you say? The fact you think Tyson is some kind of god shows you know nothing! Look at his career properly not just the bums he fought for years. He always struggled against big, tough, decent boxers who fought back and were not scared. you state he looked good after he came out of prison against Bruno etc. So why did he pay Lewis millions not to fight him? An earlier post said about when they sparred when they were younger and Lewis handled Tyson easy. Face facts that Tyson looked awesome against crap oppenents but mediocre against decnt boxers! I can't believe a guy who beat bums for two years is being touted as an all time great.
At least Lewis avenged his two defeats, when did Tyson avenge any of his defeats?... when did he come from behind to win a fight?. People talk about Tysons 'prime' like some holy thing, but the truth is that Tyson should have been in his prime well into the 90s but the reason he wasn't is because he had had his flaws exposed and he never got over that.
Like most bullies, when it came to the crunch, Tyson broke.
Like most bullies, when it came to the crunch, Tyson broke.
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>>>So what are you saying here then Barry? You are seriously deluded because you can't even remember what you say? The fact you think Tyson is some kind of god shows you know nothing!<<<
You think you proved something with my quote? You didn't, except that you do in fact make up shit when losing an argument because as it shows I did not say Lewis was not a champion. What I did say was that getting knocked out by two sub-par heavyweights just doesn't bode well for a true champion! Now that is what I said regardless of how you might try to twist it and turn it to suit you. Jeez, are you going to need someone to start drawing a picture to explain things for you!
>>>The fact you think Tyson is some kind of god shows you know nothing!<<<
Again, as is usual with someone of your intelligence, you can only make up shit because you cannot offer anything with any substantial facts to back an argument against me. What, do you actually think no one notices when you make up shit like that?
Besides, I don't think Tyson is no more a God than you think Lewis is, well no I take that back...I don't think Tyson is a God, you do with Lewis...I'm just more realistic about what they did in they're career and realistic about what they probably could do against other all-time greats...Tyson, on any given night, could beat any heavyweight in history, just like any of the other all-time greats could beat anyone else on any given night...You're just sore because Lewis doesn't fit into that category of all-time greats and Tyson does!
>>>when did he come from behind to win a fight?<<<
When did Lennox Lewis ever come from behind to win a tough fight?
You think you proved something with my quote? You didn't, except that you do in fact make up shit when losing an argument because as it shows I did not say Lewis was not a champion. What I did say was that getting knocked out by two sub-par heavyweights just doesn't bode well for a true champion! Now that is what I said regardless of how you might try to twist it and turn it to suit you. Jeez, are you going to need someone to start drawing a picture to explain things for you!
>>>The fact you think Tyson is some kind of god shows you know nothing!<<<
Again, as is usual with someone of your intelligence, you can only make up shit because you cannot offer anything with any substantial facts to back an argument against me. What, do you actually think no one notices when you make up shit like that?
Besides, I don't think Tyson is no more a God than you think Lewis is, well no I take that back...I don't think Tyson is a God, you do with Lewis...I'm just more realistic about what they did in they're career and realistic about what they probably could do against other all-time greats...Tyson, on any given night, could beat any heavyweight in history, just like any of the other all-time greats could beat anyone else on any given night...You're just sore because Lewis doesn't fit into that category of all-time greats and Tyson does!
>>>when did he come from behind to win a fight?<<<
When did Lennox Lewis ever come from behind to win a tough fight?
lewis was certainly up against it in the vitali fight and basically gutted it out.he was in serious trouble and behind on points.his heart allowed him to hang in there and i think we can all agree that this wasn't a prime lennox.earlier in his career he was getting outpunched by bruno and managed to turn the fight around.