Eubanks' lack of power a direct cause of Blackwell's injuries?

[Stuarty]

I said something similar in another thread, Eubank seems to have the power to hurt or stun but not quite enough to flatten anyone, The Jeter farce apart Chudinov, Sullivan and now Blackwell have all absorbed sustained beatings into the later rounds, these can be very damaging. Without dwelling on the negative whenever a fighter suffers a serious brain injury it's usually the result of a similar beating, you rarely if ever see anyone sparked early from a single shot suffer the type of injury Blackwell has.

The three fighters you mention there (Chudinov, O'Sullivan and Blackwell) are probably exceptions to the stoppage example. Three of them are hardy tough guys. I take your point on board and get what you're saying though

If I recall correctly Spike would have got stopped had the fight continued, he was being ripped to shreds from 4-6, and well chudinov was just a freak, his beating was worse than Blackwell's, just shows that trying to appease fans by acting all macho can have serious consequences

Yeah maybe but it was a bit of a strange stoppage. Spike was probably more competitive at the point of his stoppage than either of the other two were. As I said, all tough boys...

[Hinchy70]

The three fighters you mention there (Chudinov, O'Sullivan and Blackwell) are probably exceptions to the stoppage example. Three of them are hardy tough guys. I take your point on board and get what you're saying though

If I recall correctly Spike would have got stopped had the fight continued, he was being ripped to shreds from 4-6, and well chudinov was just a freak, his beating was worse than Blackwell's, just shows that trying to appease fans by acting all macho can have serious consequences

Yeah maybe but it was a bit of a strange stoppage. Spike was probably more competitive at the point of his stoppage than either of the other two were. As I said, all tough boys...

At some point the ref needs to take control himself, not saying the ref was at fault, I thought he was decent, but when a ref asks a fighter "do they want to go on" at some point the ref should ask himself the question "is he receiving enough clean shots to damage himself in the long run" rather than relying on corners to throw the towel in

[Peanut Brittle]

Indeed Chudinov, Sullivan, Blackwell are all seriously hard men noted for their durability but do you think any of them would have taken that many punches from someone like Golovkin? (rhetorical question that we all know the answer) Eubank just doesn't have that one punch stoppage power like a GGG (Andy Lee even) that's why people are going rounds with him taking prolonged beatings.

If you look at the way GGG punches it's utterly effortless his shots just have a natural snap and impact, Eubank seems to use raw muscular strength, he tenses up before throwing them and ever so slightly winds them up (perhaps that's why he flags after an onslaught) I don't really think Eubank is a 'puncher' as such, just very strong physically.

[davie]

He's a fighter and felt that Pascal deliberately slagged him and his trainer off and tried to cause rifts. I don't see a problem with this.... Tyson and other greats said similar

I can't agree with you here bud.
We are all boxing fans we follow the sport and know what it entails, just like every man who enters the ring.
But lets not forget it is a sport and the purpose is certainly not to inflict maximum harm. Combat sports are the only place you can do these things, that would otherwise be considered a crime in any other environment. I'm ok with that and ok with the idea someone might get accidentally hurt and injured from time to time but the idea that someone would intentionally prolong a beating instead of just trying to win the fight is disturbing.
As for Tyson and other greats saying the same, that's hardy a justifucation.
Tyson threatenend to eat someones children and Tyson Fury told us homosexuals are going to bring about the apocalypse. Doesn't make it acceptable.

If Kovalev has killed a man in the ring and purposely prolonged a beating to inflict harm on another opponent he didn't like, out of spite, he's not a very nice man
As for his hard upbringing, that has absolutely nothing to do with being a bad bastard.

[Boxerbeetle]

Eubank is definitely not a puncher. He loaded up on those uppercuts massively and they pretty much all landed cleanly, but Blackwell never particularly looked in trouble or like he would go down. Golovkin & Kovalev have stopped people with jabs ffs. No doubt Eubank has sting in his punches, but a puncher he is not.

[Stuarty]

If I recall correctly Spike would have got stopped had the fight continued, he was being ripped to shreds from 4-6, and well chudinov was just a freak, his beating was worse than Blackwell's, just shows that trying to appease fans by acting all macho can have serious consequences

Yeah maybe but it was a bit of a strange stoppage. Spike was probably more competitive at the point of his stoppage than either of the other two were. As I said, all tough boys...

At some point the ref needs to take control himself, not saying the ref was at fault, I thought he was decent, but when a ref asks a fighter "do they want to go on" at some point the ref should ask himself the question "is he receiving enough clean shots to damage himself in the long run" rather than relying on corners to throw the towel in

I thought Loughlin told the doctor to call it off tbh. If you watch it back it looks as if the doc is going to let him go on til Vic has a word. That's how I thought it looked anyway. I wouldn't blame anyone for what happened last night. It's a horrible outcome but because of past tragedies there are safer precautions in place nowadays. 20 odd years ago we might be having a very different conversation.

[Hinchy70]

Eubank is definitely not a puncher. He loaded up on those uppercuts massively and they pretty much all landed cleanly, but Blackwell never particularly looked in trouble or like he would go down. Golovkin & Kovalev have stopped people with jabs ffs. No doubt Eubank has sting in his punches, but a puncher he is not.

Id rather be knocked out by a jab than take them HADOUKEN uppercuts from Eubank every 20 seconds

[Peanut Brittle]

Eubank is definitely not a puncher. He loaded up on those uppercuts massively and they pretty much all landed cleanly, but Blackwell never particularly looked in trouble or like he would go down. Golovkin & Kovalev have stopped people with jabs ffs. No doubt Eubank has sting in his punches, but a puncher he is not.

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[Stuarty]

Eubank is definitely not a puncher. He loaded up on those uppercuts massively and they pretty much all landed cleanly, but Blackwell never particularly looked in trouble or like he would go down. Golovkin & Kovalev have stopped people with jabs ffs. No doubt Eubank has sting in his punches, but a puncher he is not.

Id rather be knocked out by a jab than take them HADOUKEN uppercuts from Eubank every 20 seconds

I'd rather curl up into a ball and sook my own nipples

[Stuarty]

Eubank is definitely not a puncher. He loaded up on those uppercuts massively and they pretty much all landed cleanly, but Blackwell never particularly looked in trouble or like he would go down. Golovkin & Kovalev have stopped people with jabs ffs. No doubt Eubank has sting in his punches, but a puncher he is not.

Id rather be knocked out by a jab than take them HADOUKEN uppercuts from Eubank every 20 seconds

Street fighter was awesome though wasn't it? The film was heavy gay right enough!

[Hinchy70]

Eubank is definitely not a puncher. He loaded up on those uppercuts massively and they pretty much all landed cleanly, but Blackwell never particularly looked in trouble or like he would go down. Golovkin & Kovalev have stopped people with jabs ffs. No doubt Eubank has sting in his punches, but a puncher he is not.

Id rather be knocked out by a jab than take them HADOUKEN uppercuts from Eubank every 20 seconds

Street fighter was awesome though wasn't it? The film was heavy gay right enough!

I wouldn't be surprised if Eubank shouts "FINISH HIM" every time he throws a shot. His mouth is normally wide open after all

[Stuarty]

Id rather be knocked out by a jab than take them HADOUKEN uppercuts from Eubank every 20 seconds

Street fighter was awesome though wasn't it? The film was heavy gay right enough!

I wouldn't be surprised if Eubank shouts "FINISH HIM" every time he throws a shot. His mouth is normally wide open after all

That Indian bloke would've made for a good boxer with his 200inch reach!

[reggaereggae]

He's a fighter and felt that Pascal deliberately slagged him and his trainer off and tried to cause rifts. I don't see a problem with this.... Tyson and other greats said similar

I can't agree with you here bud.
We are all boxing fans we follow the sport and know what it entails, just like every man who enters the ring.
But lets not forget it is a sport and the purpose is certainly not to inflict maximum harm. Combat sports are the only place you can do these things, that would otherwise be considered a crime in any other environment. I'm ok with that and ok with the idea someone might get accidentally hurt and injured from time to time but the idea that someone would intentionally prolong a beating instead of just trying to win the fight is disturbing.
As for Tyson and other greats saying the same, that's hardy a justifucation.
Tyson threatenend to eat someones children and Tyson Fury told us homosexuals are going to bring about the apocalypse. Doesn't make it acceptable.

If Kovalev has killed a man in the ring and purposely prolonged a beating to inflict harm on another opponent he didn't like, out of spite, he's not a very nice man
As for his hard upbringing, that has absolutely nothing to do with being a bad bastard.

Let's agree to disagree! pro boxing to me is much more than a sport. It's about knocking someone out and hurting them and you need spite for that. I bet Sergey is a very sound and good friend and husband, but is intent on taking care of business. It's the hurt business, not the tickling business!

[Hinchy70]

He's a fighter and felt that Pascal deliberately slagged him and his trainer off and tried to cause rifts. I don't see a problem with this.... Tyson and other greats said similar

I can't agree with you here bud.
We are all boxing fans we follow the sport and know what it entails, just like every man who enters the ring.
But lets not forget it is a sport and the purpose is certainly not to inflict maximum harm. Combat sports are the only place you can do these things, that would otherwise be considered a crime in any other environment. I'm ok with that and ok with the idea someone might get accidentally hurt and injured from time to time but the idea that someone would intentionally prolong a beating instead of just trying to win the fight is disturbing.
As for Tyson and other greats saying the same, that's hardy a justifucation.
Tyson threatenend to eat someones children and Tyson Fury told us homosexuals are going to bring about the apocalypse. Doesn't make it acceptable.

If Kovalev has killed a man in the ring and purposely prolonged a beating to inflict harm on another opponent he didn't like, out of spite, he's not a very nice man
As for his hard upbringing, that has absolutely nothing to do with being a bad bastard.

Let's agree to disagree! pro boxing to me is much more than a sport. It's about knocking someone out and hurting them and you need spite for that. I bet Sergey is a very sound and good friend and husband, but is intent on taking care of business. It's the hurt business, not the tickling business!

There's bareknuckle boxing for that kind of bloodthirsty fan, I take it you hate the Andre Wards, Rigondeaux's of this world? Boxing is about hitting and not getting hit. You can want to hurt someone as much as you like but if you take 6 shots to land one then you're not going to get any far with a bit of spite because of a poor childhood

[reggaereggae]

Street fighter was awesome though wasn't it? The film was heavy gay right enough!

I wouldn't be surprised if Eubank shouts "FINISH HIM" every time he throws a shot. His mouth is normally wide open after all

That Indian bloke would've made for a good boxer with his 200inch reach!

Dhalsim was a light puncher though.....

[Stuarty]

I can't agree with you here bud.
We are all boxing fans we follow the sport and know what it entails, just like every man who enters the ring.
But lets not forget it is a sport and the purpose is certainly not to inflict maximum harm. Combat sports are the only place you can do these things, that would otherwise be considered a crime in any other environment. I'm ok with that and ok with the idea someone might get accidentally hurt and injured from time to time but the idea that someone would intentionally prolong a beating instead of just trying to win the fight is disturbing.
As for Tyson and other greats saying the same, that's hardy a justifucation.
Tyson threatenend to eat someones children and Tyson Fury told us homosexuals are going to bring about the apocalypse. Doesn't make it acceptable.

If Kovalev has killed a man in the ring and purposely prolonged a beating to inflict harm on another opponent he didn't like, out of spite, he's not a very nice man
As for his hard upbringing, that has absolutely nothing to do with being a bad bastard.

Let's agree to disagree! pro boxing to me is much more than a sport. It's about knocking someone out and hurting them and you need spite for that. I bet Sergey is a very sound and good friend and husband, but is intent on taking care of business. It's the hurt business, not the tickling business!

There's bareknuckle boxing for that kind of bloodthirsty fan, I take it you hate the Andre Wards, Rigondeaux's of this world? Boxing is about hitting and not getting hit. You can want to hurt someone as much as you like but if you take 6 shots to land one then you're not going to get any far with a bit of spite because of a poor childhood

I personally love all types of fighter. I love guys who come in with all the self confidence (as long as they back it up), I love guys who bring a bit of intensity, I love guys who take things in their stride. I suppose certain people just do whatever works for them. Doesn't make them bad or good.

[Boxerbeetle]

Street fighter was awesome though wasn't it? The film was heavy gay right enough!

I wouldn't be surprised if Eubank shouts "FINISH HIM" every time he throws a shot. His mouth is normally wide open after all

That Indian bloke would've made for a good boxer with his 200inch reach!

"FINISH HIM" was from Mortal Kombat, not StreetFighter

[Boxerbeetle]

I wouldn't be surprised if Eubank shouts "FINISH HIM" every time he throws a shot. His mouth is normally wide open after all

That Indian bloke would've made for a good boxer with his 200inch reach!

Dhalsim was a light puncher though.....

Yeah he was slow as fvck as well, although chucking out some Yoga Fire every so often would be handy

[Stuarty]

I wouldn't be surprised if Eubank shouts "FINISH HIM" every time he throws a shot. His mouth is normally wide open after all

That Indian bloke would've made for a good boxer with his 200inch reach!

"FINISH HIM" was from Mortal Kombat, not StreetFighter

That was just as good if a bit more sinister

[reggaereggae]

That Indian bloke would've made for a good boxer with his 200inch reach!

"FINISH HIM" was from Mortal Kombat, not StreetFighter

That was just as good if a bit more sinister

Nah street fighter 2 was the way better game, but Mortal Kombat had a sinister and brutal edge. I liked them both, for different reasons, but in terms of playability, SF2 is by far the best. For atmosphere, MK....

[reggaereggae]

I can't agree with you here bud.
We are all boxing fans we follow the sport and know what it entails, just like every man who enters the ring.
But lets not forget it is a sport and the purpose is certainly not to inflict maximum harm. Combat sports are the only place you can do these things, that would otherwise be considered a crime in any other environment. I'm ok with that and ok with the idea someone might get accidentally hurt and injured from time to time but the idea that someone would intentionally prolong a beating instead of just trying to win the fight is disturbing.
As for Tyson and other greats saying the same, that's hardy a justifucation.
Tyson threatenend to eat someones children and Tyson Fury told us homosexuals are going to bring about the apocalypse. Doesn't make it acceptable.

If Kovalev has killed a man in the ring and purposely prolonged a beating to inflict harm on another opponent he didn't like, out of spite, he's not a very nice man
As for his hard upbringing, that has absolutely nothing to do with being a bad bastard.

Let's agree to disagree! pro boxing to me is much more than a sport. It's about knocking someone out and hurting them and you need spite for that. I bet Sergey is a very sound and good friend and husband, but is intent on taking care of business. It's the hurt business, not the tickling business!

There's bareknuckle boxing for that kind of bloodthirsty fan, I take it you hate the Andre Wards, Rigondeaux's of this world? Boxing is about hitting and not getting hit. You can want to hurt someone as much as you like but if you take 6 shots to land one then you're not going to get any far with a bit of spite because of a poor childhood

Yeah right...I'm sure you're a big boxing fan because you like jab and move points win.. all, I mean all the best rated fights in boxing involve back and forth ding dongs with usually multiple knockdowns or at least fighters badly staggered.

This is the reality of boxing. Let's not sugar coat it

[Stuarty]

"FINISH HIM" was from Mortal Kombat, not StreetFighter

That was just as good if a bit more sinister

Nah street fighter 2 was the way better game, but Mortal Kombat had a sinister and brutal edge. I liked them both, for different reasons, but in terms of playability, SF2 is by far the best. For atmosphere, MK....

I was going through my old room cupboard in my dads a couple of years ago and I found my old street fighter game for the Sega MegaDrive. The price tag was still on and it was 59.99! WTF!?

[reggaereggae]

That was just as good if a bit more sinister

Nah street fighter 2 was the way better game, but Mortal Kombat had a sinister and brutal edge. I liked them both, for different reasons, but in terms of playability, SF2 is by far the best. For atmosphere, MK....

I was going through my old room cupboard in my dads a couple of years ago and I found my old street fighter game for the Sega MegaDrive. The price tag was still on and it was 59.99! WTF!?

Really? They even released a special 6 button controller for the game on the mega drive...

[Stuarty]

Nah street fighter 2 was the way better game, but Mortal Kombat had a sinister and brutal edge. I liked them both, for different reasons, but in terms of playability, SF2 is by far the best. For atmosphere, MK....

I was going through my old room cupboard in my dads a couple of years ago and I found my old street fighter game for the Sega MegaDrive. The price tag was still on and it was 59.99! WTF!?

Really? They even released a special 6 button controller for the game on the mega drive...

Aye it was out of 'what everyone wants'. I was only 10 in 1994. My mammy got me it waiting for the bus. Bit out of character. We never got much in way of luxuries as children, that's why I remember it so vividly. I remember that controller lol.

[reggaereggae]

I was going through my old room cupboard in my dads a couple of years ago and I found my old street fighter game for the Sega MegaDrive. The price tag was still on and it was 59.99! WTF!?

Really? They even released a special 6 button controller for the game on the mega drive...

Aye it was out of 'what everyone wants'. I was only 10 in 1994. My mammy got me it waiting for the bus. Bit out of character. We never got much in way of luxuries as children, that's why I remember it so vividly. I remember that controller lol.

Sweet! I also like the megadrive version of 'Pitfighter', I think the first real motion capture game.... I thought it was better than the arcade. Loved it!