Lucas Browne press conference TODAY regarding his positive drug test

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Lucas Browne has announced he will hold a press conference TODAY at 10.30am (1.30pm Sydney/Melbourne time) in East Perth.

For those overseas that is about two and a half hours after the time of this post.

His press release, see below, states he has a 'MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT' to make.

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Interesting??
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Wonder what else he has to say....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s_pYTQFr3M
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He's going to do a Kellie Maloney :maybe:
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koolkc107 wrote:Wonder what else he has to say....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s_pYTQFr3M
An update on the B sample perhaps?

Browne was tested twice and yet only one of the samples tested positive. They may be looking to push an argument about that inconsistency?
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It just doesn't matter how many times an athlete in any sport has a negative drug test.
The one positive is the only test that needs a credible explanation.
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Couldn't care less what he has to say.

VADA doesn't make mistakes.

Guilty.
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diddy wrote:Couldn't care less what he has to say.

VADA doesn't make mistakes.

Guilty.
Wow I didn't know anything was infallible
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Lucas Browne Won't Pursue B-Sample, But Plans Investigation

http://www.BS.com/lucas-browne ... on--102896

Having been given a full week to mull over various options, Lucas Browne and his team have opted to go the investigatory route in efforts to clear the fighter's name.

Browne was given the option to have the ‘B’ sample tested – with such requests coming at cost to the athlete and/or his team – but instead is looking into the events that took place from the time he touched down in Checnya to fight night itself.

“I made clear to the public last week that I intended to do all that I can to clear my name after the devastating news of the positive drug test following my successful defeat of Ruslan Chagaev for the WBA heavyweight world championship,” Browne said in an embargoed statement through Hatton Promotions’ press office.

“I am now able to report to that on February 29th - shortly after having arrived in Chechnya - I was subjected to a randomly timed drug test by VADA. This was a test of blood and urine. The post-fight test was a urine-only test.

“I would like to again stress it was myself and my team who requested the bout be subject to VADA testing. I now hold clear and unequivocal evidence that this test was a negative test and shows clearly that I arrived in Chechnya a clean athlete. Hatton Promotions have (now) made this information available to the media.”
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What's he gonna do? Admit it? It's a combat sport. Dudes cheat. Vada doesn't mess up. He's guilty. Next.
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tiny_acres wrote:
diddy wrote:Couldn't care less what he has to say.

VADA doesn't make mistakes.

Guilty.
Wow I didn't know anything was infallible
:TU:
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diddy wrote:What's he gonna do? Admit it? It's a combat sport. Dudes cheat. Vada doesn't mess up. He's guilty. Next.
Diddy, how do you know VADA doesn't mess up?

I'm not saying you're wrong or right. Just asking how you know for sure that they're right & he's wrong in this instance.

Considering the current issues with Russia & drugs in sports how much control do VADA have (I have NO idea)?

Who took the sample from Browne? Who comes into contact with it between him giving it & VADA testing it?

I've been a boxing fan since the early 70's but I am ignorant when it comes to the drug aspect so any help would be appreciated.

Cheers :TU:
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Regardless of what "investigation" they plan on doing, foregoing the B sample usually means the athlete is accepting the A sample as a valid result which allows the governing body to move forward with whatever penalties they are going to impose.
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Perseus wrote:Regardless of what "investigation" they plan on doing, foregoing the B sample usually means the athlete is accepting the A sample as a valid result which allows the governing body to move forward with whatever penalties they are going to impose.
They are clearly assuming the B sample will provide the same result as the A sample and are therefore not prepared to spend the time and money on pursuing it.

It is the green light for AVADA to proceed though. No doubt about that.

I haven't seen Browne's team point their finger directly at AVADA in all this anyway. What they appear to be suggesting is Browne was given something (contained in his food or drink) that produced the positive result.

It is interesting to note that Browne was clean when he arrived in Grozny, and the negative result of the first test proves that was the case. Because taking that into account, why on earth would a heavyweight take clenbuterol within 2 weeks of a fight?
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Like a Boss wrote:
Perseus wrote:Regardless of what "investigation" they plan on doing, foregoing the B sample usually means the athlete is accepting the A sample as a valid result which allows the governing body to move forward with whatever penalties they are going to impose.
They are clearly assuming the B sample will provide the same result as the A sample and therefore not prepared to spend the time and money on pursuing it.

I haven't seen Browne's team point their finger directly at AVADA. What they appear to be suggesting is Browne was given something (contained in his food or drink) that produced the positive result.

It is interesting Browne was clean when he arrived in Grozny, and the negative result of the first test proves that's the case. Because why on earth would a heavyweight take clenbuterol within 2 weeks of a fight?
Whatever.
If they challenge the A sample, it gives their so-called investigation time to come up with something other than the boogey man did it. Apparently they are passing on that opportunity.

There is nothing interesting about those negative tests.
They are tested more than once for a reason.
An athlete that knows what he is doing is going to be hard to catch.
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Australian heavyweight champion Lucas Browne says pre-fight test proved he arrived in Chechnya clean

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-30/l ... st/7284846

6 days before the title fight, Browne was subjected to an unexpected blood and urine test by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) and said that test came back negative.

"We have in our possession evidence from VADA that this is the case and this is available for inspection," promoter Hatton Boxing said in a statement.

As a result, Browne will undertake an investigation into what happened between that first test on February 29 — which Browne said "shows clearly that I arrived in Chechnya a clean athlete" — and the fight on March 5.

"Following that clean test I ate only at the hotel in which we were hosted and at the meal following the boxers' media weigh in," he said.

"The water I drank on the night of the fight was sealed bottled water."

"I maintain that I did not knowingly consume any banned substance, including the clenbuterol found in my system in that time," he added.

Browne stressed it was his team that requested the bout be subject to VADA and said he had no issue with the VADA testing.

Hatton Boxing said Browne would not pursue the B sample from the post-fight test as they did not expect it to provide different results.
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Guilty. Suspend him.

Next.
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Boxer Browne investigating positive test

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2016 ... itive-test

Australia's WBA heavyweight world boxing champion Lucas Browne says his team are investigating how he could have unwittingly ingested banned drug clenbuterol while in Chechnya for his title-winning fight.

Browne said on Wednesday drug testers had confirmed he was a clean athlete after arriving in Chechnya, testing negative six days before the fight with Ruslan Chagaev in the capital Grozny on March 5.

For Browne's team, that is proof the positive test he gave for clenbuterol after the fight was not due to him knowingly taking the drug, and must have got in his system through sinister or accidental means.
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diddy wrote:Guilty. Suspend him.

Next.
Lovely. So you're not going to use any logic. Just a brick wall :lol:
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Taansend wrote:
diddy wrote:Guilty. Suspend him.

Next.
Lovely. So you're not going to use any logic. Just a brick wall :lol:
Whether Browne was tricked into eating or drinking something containing clenbuterol or not it will be next to impossible to prove. Particularly when it occurred in a foreign country where they don't speak English and have everything to gain by not being cooperative.

Even if a rematch was the outcome, who in their right mind would go back there?
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diddy wrote:Guilty. Suspend him.

Next.
I agree with you, VADA is the most trustworthy testing agency.

To the doubters: that he decided to NOT have the B sample tested implies he is indeed guilty.
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He IS NOT "WBA CHAMPION"/ TYSON FURY IS!
This is an "In House" designate designed to put a better "ranking" on their FIGHTERS. It >AUGHT< be up to the BOXERS; the MEDIA to "look thru" all this and CELEBRATE ACCORDINGLY.
This is FOOLISH NONSENSE!
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He's been spiked, he was mad going there in the first place, just google the place and its president, who by the way was ringside and a good friend of Chag.
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diddy wrote:Couldn't care less what he has to say.

VADA doesn't make mistakes.

Guilty.
Browne isn't suggesting that VADA made a mistake, hence not requesting the B sample to be tested. Clearly he accepts that a banned substance was in his blood, but he denies taking it knowingly. Of course this will be very hard to prove.
Perseus wrote:It just doesn't matter how many times an athlete in any sport has a negative drug test.
The one positive is the only test that needs a credible explanation.
The fact that he tested negative just five days earlier is significant, particularly because the banned substance he tested positive for is used for weight loss and not for short term performance enhancement.
diddy wrote:What's he gonna do? Admit it? It's a combat sport. Dudes cheat. Vada doesn't mess up. He's guilty. Next.
Again, no one is suggesting that VADA messed up. Based on this assumption, we can agree with 100% certainty that Browne was clean just five days before the fight. Knowingly taking clenbuterol - to lose weight - so close to a fight makes no sense. Then consider the dodgy goings on in the fight - the long round, the short round and three lopsided scorecards - and it's certainly not inconceivable that someone spiked Browne's food in the leadup to the fight. Will be very hard to prove though.
diddy wrote:Guilty. Suspend him.

Next.
You would make a terrible judge.
Freedom2013 wrote:
diddy wrote:Guilty. Suspend him.

Next.
I agree with you, VADA is the most trustworthy testing agency.

To the doubters: that he decided to NOT have the B sample tested implies he is indeed guilty.
No, it implies that he agrees the positive test was accurate and he believes he was spiked. Why are people finding this so hard to understand?!
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diddy wrote:What's he gonna do? Admit it? It's a combat sport. Dudes cheat. Vada doesn't mess up. He's guilty. Next.
I think he's saying he was drugged, that requires no error from VADA.
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