SaadOffTheDeck wrote:HBO isn't shelling out millions hand over fist for Boxing anymore. Loma/Walters is a nice fight, but it's probably 4,000 to 5,000 sold tickets and average ratings.
Believe what you want. The only person avoiding that fight, was Walters.$$Money$$ wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:HBO isn't shelling out millions hand over fist for Boxing anymore. Loma/Walters is a nice fight, but it's probably 4,000 to 5,000 sold tickets and average ratings.
You still have not provided any proof for the statement you made.
Now it's "believe what you want"!!SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Believe what you want. The only person avoiding that fight, was Walters.$$Money$$ wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:HBO isn't shelling out millions hand over fist for Boxing anymore. Loma/Walters is a nice fight, but it's probably 4,000 to 5,000 sold tickets and average ratings.
You still have not provided any proof for the statement you made.
I don't record phone calls to post on Boxrec. Like I said, google it. Proving what I know to you is of no concern to me.$$Money$$ wrote:Now it's "believe what you want"!!SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Believe what you want. The only person avoiding that fight, was Walters.$$Money$$ wrote:
You still have not provided any proof for the statement you made.
You're the one who came here spouting things that aren't fact based, where's your proof or did you just make that up???
See instead of thinking I'm being a "Particular Ass" here as you put it then why don't you try doing the math:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=c ... %2FWalters
But since you're hellbent on being a particular ass here, pick one.
Focus on the part that says it was the entire amount budgeted for the fight, this tells you that Arum is FOS (Full of Sh*t), fighters at PBC are making that amount without a big name or having to peel off a certain amount out of their own purses to make a fight.Walters was asking for $1 million to fight Lomachenko, which was basically the amount of money that HBO had budgeted for the entire fight, Arum said.
Even when Walters lowered his asking price and Lomachenko offered to give Walters $300,000 from his $850,000
Listen to what Arum said in this vid, he is basically telling you that there is more money on the table but that HE (Arum) is unwilling to take a loss.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:LOL, I gave you what you wanted. The PBC has nothing to do with HBO and HBO obviously has cut their budget drastically. I absolutely believe that they weren't going over a million for that fight. Lomachenko is extremely confident and wanted the fight. Walters never called his bluff.
Haymon talks to nobody, I have plenty of people in the know about what goes on at HBO.
So again, believe what you will. You're the only person I've heard contradict what everyone else says went on.
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You obviously are too dense to understand that promoters don't promote fights to lose money. He was willing to lose a couple hundred grand and no more.
Clearly my wonderland is a lot closer to reality than yours.digzee wrote:You really are living in a wonderland aren't you... What is the difference between being the man of the division and no.1 of the division? Name me a SMW with a better resume. The loss to Groves was 5 years ago and very debatable, that has barely any relevance to todays ranking...Taki... wrote:What has being dropped got to do with a fighters whiskers? Bruno was stopped on his feet multiple times.digzee wrote: Still waiting to hear how many times Froch dropped Bute? You know because of your comment about his chin..
Do you want a written contract from GGG to say he would move up? You would still not believe it ffs. You are ridiculous first you say its only the site reporting without actually reading the article and now I had to explain to you it was his promoters own words that's not enough. You are like a kid who cant admit you are wrong.
I'll tell you why DeGale is No.1 at SMW as its simple... He has the best resume.
Promoters spout all kinds of nonsense to muddy the waters, always have, always will.
Oh, so Degale is no.1 rather than THE man now? As for his resume... Dirrell, old Bute and losing to Groves. Frightening stuff.
Doesn't wash, soft lad.
Ok so every promoter lies to everyone about everything, have you got enough tinfoil in your bedroom?
I still don't know why you brought up Bute's chin.
You are a dire dire poster and not worth replying to, especially as its been proven you don't read much.
He got an eliminator for one of the belt, i don't remember witch one it was and the only guy who accepted the fight was rank 12th on the list. About 8 guys refuses to fight him only for that fight. Outside of that i think he enter the profil of High risk, Low rewards. Has for the Kovalev fight again its a promoter thing but that fight will be there soonSaadOffTheDeck wrote:Who avoided Beterbiev? He turned down the Kovalev fight and pulled out of an eliminator with an injury.Cloutov wrote:All wrong... I can name you two guys who are avoid more than him. Beterbiev and Spence jr and the listcan go on
Turning down that fight was all on Walters. He chose to flush his career down the sh*tter because he overestimates his worth. I hope he never gets another big chance again. He doesn't deserve one anymore.$$Money$$ wrote:Listen to what Arum said in this vid, he is basically telling you that there is more money on the table but that HE (Arum) is unwilling to take a loss.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:LOL, I gave you what you wanted. The PBC has nothing to do with HBO and HBO obviously has cut their budget drastically. I absolutely believe that they weren't going over a million for that fight. Lomachenko is extremely confident and wanted the fight. Walters never called his bluff.
Haymon talks to nobody, I have plenty of people in the know about what goes on at HBO.
So again, believe what you will. You're the only person I've heard contradict what everyone else says went on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiJe4v4i6QQ
If that isn't clear cut enough for you to understand that this is simply a matter of Arum's greed and lies then there's nothing else to say about this, Walters is right to ask for more money because Bob Arum's greedy ass is just sitting on it.
He pulled out of the eliminator and turned down kovalev.Cloutov wrote:He got an eliminator for one of the belt, i don't remember witch one it was and the only guy who accepted the fight was rank 12th on the list. About 8 guys refuses to fight him only for that fight. Outside of that i think he enter the profil of High risk, Low rewards. Has for the Kovalev fight again its a promoter thing but that fight will be there soonSaadOffTheDeck wrote:Who avoided Beterbiev? He turned down the Kovalev fight and pulled out of an eliminator with an injury.Cloutov wrote:All wrong... I can name you two guys who are avoid more than him. Beterbiev and Spence jr and the listcan go on
Hahahadigzee wrote:You really are living in a wonderland aren't you... What is the difference between being the man of the division and no.1 of the division? Name me a SMW with a better resume. The loss to Groves was 5 years ago and very debatable, that has barely any relevance to todays ranking...Taki... wrote:What has being dropped got to do with a fighters whiskers? Bruno was stopped on his feet multiple times.digzee wrote: Still waiting to hear how many times Froch dropped Bute? You know because of your comment about his chin..
Do you want a written contract from GGG to say he would move up? You would still not believe it ffs. You are ridiculous first you say its only the site reporting without actually reading the article and now I had to explain to you it was his promoters own words that's not enough. You are like a kid who cant admit you are wrong.
I'll tell you why DeGale is No.1 at SMW as its simple... He has the best resume.
Promoters spout all kinds of nonsense to muddy the waters, always have, always will.
Oh, so Degale is no.1 rather than THE man now? As for his resume... Dirrell, old Bute and losing to Groves. Frightening stuff.
Doesn't wash, soft lad.
Ok so every promoter lies to everyone about everything, have you got enough tinfoil in your bedroom?
I still don't know why you brought up Bute's chin.
You are a dire dire poster and not worth replying to, especially as its been proven you don't read much.
Who's avoiding Kovalev?x2x wrote:Most avoided? Kovalev and GGG i think.
wether it's fear or better belts around probably bigger earners in his division the poor guy is at his peak but getting the Aaron Pryor treatment 
Goodnight TomGeorgewesshaw1985 wrote:Hahahadigzee wrote:You really are living in a wonderland aren't you... What is the difference between being the man of the division and no.1 of the division? Name me a SMW with a better resume. The loss to Groves was 5 years ago and very debatable, that has barely any relevance to todays ranking...Taki... wrote:
What has being dropped got to do with a fighters whiskers? Bruno was stopped on his feet multiple times.
Promoters spout all kinds of nonsense to muddy the waters, always have, always will.
Oh, so Degale is no.1 rather than THE man now? As for his resume... Dirrell, old Bute and losing to Groves. Frightening stuff.
Doesn't wash, soft lad.
Ok so every promoter lies to everyone about everything, have you got enough tinfoil in your bedroom?
I still don't know why you brought up Bute's chin.
You are a dire dire poster and not worth replying to, especially as its been proven you don't read much.
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Brook is the ducker.Celtic Chaos Cartel wrote:Kell Brook seems to be a champion unnoticed,
but it can't be ignored he's not in a position where he can dictate like the other belt holders wether it's by default his fault or nobody's fault something has to be done to make the titles holders aim to unify all the belts then the fans get the best of it and the Best of the fighters get all the loot n recognition they deserve 
