honest answer: did you overall make money betting in boxing?

[Deadendgeneration]

I've only put on about 10 bets i my life. There are too many factors to consider when making a bet. I backed Dirrell to beat Degale as I thought it would be a close fight (it was) and the home fighter would get the decision (he didn't). Betting on Mayweather to KO Hatton, (using a free bet as my main bet was decision) and Chudinov to beat Sturm in the first fight (thanks to advice of some folks on here) I'm comfortably up overall but I've lost more bets that I've won.

[actjac]

Yes, I think I made more on PAC/dlh than I've lost combined.

The same.

[winnie_de la_pooh]

The last time I bet $$$ on boxing was Weaver by KO over Big John Tate. As a result I am still $500 up.

damn haha,what were you thinking going into the 15th when Weaver was getting schooled and had lost almost every round

[man]

betting only £20 on fights involving top 30 fighters (where there was a book) you would have £104,192 (from that initial £20) if you used the independent world boxing rankings since July 1993. I tend to bet no more than £100 (often to win £15), some years I have broken evenish, but most years make enough to live modestly.

This weekend was bad: Herrera got beat by Gomez, much higher in the ratings, bet £40 and I lost at +2.4 Lost of Barrosso (going against the ratings and he was the favourite) lost £50 won £44 on Pulev from a £100 stake. Did not bet Canelo.

You will never win every bet. I lost a last week on the Badou draw.

http://www.premierboxingorganisation.com

lennox,
wow
grats!

[TheWigwam]

Don't bet high amounts but made about £310 in boxing over a year, win some lose some lol

[Kalan]

There are lots of markets on appropriate fights over/under rounds

One of the most profitable and consistent bets is the over... If you have 2 decent boxers it generally goes the distance... One of the best bets lately was Canelo-Khan although the odds were long you could bet really huge because Khan had 1 in 600 chance. I thought De La Hoya had 1 in 80 shot to beat Hopkins and those fights were extremely similar. Both Amir and Oscar looked physically weak, were fighting bigger, stronger guys, and seemed pessimistic about their own chances. They're very practiced talkers and a lot of scripted baloney flowed out of them. I pay a lot of attention to empty sounding boasts and body language. There were no reasons for them to believe they'd win and they didn't.

Also when you see somebody as agitated as Chisora, Whyte, O'Sullivan, and Backwell they rarely win. You also see guys consciously trying to relax and look at ease like Groves in his Froch and Jack fights. He lacked confidence and was trying to buck himself up.. Then you see guys where their fear is palpable. Michael Spinks vs Mike Tyson.. Frazier vs Foreman.. Golota vs Lewis.. Sallikh vs Kovalev.. Geale vs Golovkin.. Jennings vs Ortiz.. Christy Martin vs Laila Ali.. Martin vs Joshua.. That's a reliable sign they're headed for a KO loss. You see them come out and fight with seemingly a lot of confidence for the first minute or so. That's their professionalism taking over. Their demeanor changes as they start getting hit.

[stevedoc]

i used to win but that was 20 years ago recently i'm down mainly because i go for long odds that might happen rather than what i think will happen or i pick a group of rounds ,to be fair i only bet small as i'm not really a gambler

[man]

If your a serious betting man on boxing.. One bet on a single fight is not enough.. You need to have multiple bets.. And betting in running is a dream come true.. If you can read a fight you'll clear up simple.. Never bet on just the "A fighter vs B fighter" because the odds are often shockingly bad.. I.e "you never see a broke bookmaker" because they are so tight with their odds that they squeak when they walk.. You have to bet the outcome.. I.e by ko, or by decision or tech decision.. If your feeling greedy then pick a few rounds. There are lots of markets on appropriate fights over/under rounds, round groups etc.. If you know boxing like you probably think you do.. Then you should mop up the money.. But either way.. It'll show you what you really know about the sport.. The only thing that can really go wrong is a shocking scorecard by a single judge.. Or an un necessary stoppage by a ref.. But betting in running will curb any losses anyway.. Betting in running makes it very difficult to LOSE if you know what your watching..

very cool post indeed.

[world ranked]

I actually think Boxing is the easy sport to bet on. With corruption and the lack of knowledge of the bookie's compare to the hardcore fan there's a lot opportunities especially with the 50/50 fights take prospect or the home fighter it will usually work or even the home underdog.

[Kalan]

If you used the independent world boxing rankings since July 1993

Most rankings are worst than horrible. Trainers scout potential opponents using boxrec.com and youtube.com. Bettors can also. First look at guys who've never been beaten and fought opponents with very good records. Then look for balance, athleticism, precise footwork, speed, intelligence, and a calm, mature demeanor. Out of that you want guys who out-jab their opponents by a big margin and haven't been dropped. For instance I saw a kid yesterday, David Benavidez. He's a really tall, rangy LHW. He's smart, a great demeanor, with very good power. He only has 14 fights so you mark him down as a possible when he has more experience and they start posting odds on his fights. Because nobody knows him yet the odds won't be so extreme if his opponent looks really beatable and it's a better bet. Now that Joshua flattened Whyte and Martin, future bets on him won't be as juicy. Eubank too going forward. So look for newcomers although there's a lot of great bets with established champs.

Many times odds that are the most skewed are on boxers who are the most popular like Tyson, Leonard, Duran, Klitschko. But not always. Many bettors like longshots and you're basically taking their money most of the time. You don't want to bet on a fight like Gary Russell vs Patrick Hyland because the odds are extreme, because Russell had almost no chance to lose. But Joshua vs Martin offered much better odds and Joshua had very little chance to lose either. A lot of guys liked Spike O'Sullivan to beat Chris Eubank so you take advantage of that. The big money is the smart money. The small bets are the sucker money ... generally speaking, not always.

[man]

Many bettors like longshots and you're basically taking their money most of the time. ... The big money is the smart money. The small bets are the sucker money ... generally speaking, not always.

it reminds me of trading options.

[world ranked]

If you used the independent world boxing rankings since July 1993

Most rankings are worst than horrible. Trainers scout potential opponents using boxrec.com and youtube.com. Bettors can also. First look at guys who've never been beaten and fought opponents with very good records. Then look for balance, athleticism, precise footwork, speed, intelligence, and a calm, mature demeanor. Out of that you want guys who out-jab their opponents by a big margin and haven't been dropped. For instance I saw a kid yesterday, David Benavidez. He's a really tall, rangy LHW. He's smart, a great demeanor, with very good power. He only has 14 fights so you mark him down as a possible when he has more experience and they start posting odds on his fights. Because nobody knows him yet the odds won't be so extreme if his opponent looks really beatable and it's a better bet. Now that Joshua flattened Whyte and Martin, future bets on him won't be as juicy. Eubank too going forward. So look for newcomers although there's a lot of great bets with established champs.

Many times odds that are the most skewed are on boxers who are the most popular like Tyson, Leonard, Duran, Klitschko. But not always. Many bettors like longshots and you're basically taking their money most of the time. You don't want to bet on a fight like Gary Russell vs Patrick Hyland because the odds are extreme, because Russell had almost no chance to lose. But Joshua vs Martin offered much better odds and Joshua had very little chance to lose either. A lot of guys liked Spike O'Sullivan to beat Chris Eubank so you take advantage of that. The big money is the smart money. The small bets are the sucker money ... generally speaking, not always.

Got to ahead of the market instead of going with big name prospects I bet against B-level guys who has no shot to beat the top level guys. Gatekeeper
type guys as favorite I go against i.e Maurico Herrera, Brian Rose, Austin Trout guys like that.

[Kalan]

instead of going with big name prospects I bet against B-level guys who has no shot to beat the top level guys. Gatekeeper type guys as favorite I go against i.e Maurico Herrera, Brian Rose, Austin Trout guys like that.

Bigger, taller, slick southpaws generally beat shorter orthodox jabbers.. They get the right hook in. Trout vs Cotto... Crawford vs Gamboa.. Once Crawford turned southpaw he had it sacked... Now southpaw Trout vs southpaw Lara, you have to go with the more skillful Lara.

[Lennox]

If you used the independent world boxing rankings since July 1993

Most rankings are worst than horrible. Trainers scout potential opponents using boxrec.com and youtube.com. Bettors can also. First look at guys who've never been beaten and fought opponents with very good records. Then look for balance, athleticism, precise footwork, speed, intelligence, and a calm, mature demeanor. Out of that you want guys who out-jab their opponents by a big margin and haven't been dropped. For instance I saw a kid yesterday, David Benavidez. He's a really tall, rangy LHW. He's smart, a great demeanor, with very good power. He only has 14 fights so you mark him down as a possible when he has more experience and they start posting odds on his fights. Because nobody knows him yet the odds won't be so extreme if his opponent looks really beatable and it's a better bet. Now that Joshua flattened Whyte and Martin, future bets on him won't be as juicy. Eubank too going forward. So look for newcomers although there's a lot of great bets with established champs.

Many times odds that are the most skewed are on boxers who are the most popular like Tyson, Leonard, Duran, Klitschko. But not always. Many bettors like longshots and you're basically taking their money most of the time. You don't want to bet on a fight like Gary Russell vs Patrick Hyland because the odds are extreme, because Russell had almost no chance to lose. But Joshua vs Martin offered much better odds and Joshua had very little chance to lose either. A lot of guys liked Spike O'Sullivan to beat Chris Eubank so you take advantage of that. The big money is the smart money. The small bets are the sucker money ... generally speaking, not always.

www.premierboxingorganisation.com-heavyweight-200 if you look and understand what that information tells you there are reams of stats there. It is getting the balance of fighters that are ascending and older ones on the way down. You have the pre-fight ranking of the boxers last 20 opponents (W = not in the top 100). Very easy to spot the frauds who are high in the ABC top 15 and not deserving. David Benavidez has not fought anyone any good yet, but he is high ranked with one of the ABC. A good tip is to bet a draw when two fighters are within 5 ranks independently, I would say a dozen times I have had 66-1 shots come in, unfortunately getting those type of pre-fight odds these days does not happen. Tourists bet on rounds for the knock-outs, you need to be lucky to make those, skill can't predict those.

[world ranked]

A guy with no power but ok boxing ability those guys I never bet on because they always get robbed on the road.