Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
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Ruthless-RKO
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Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
So according to ESPN, both promoters have come to an agreement in principle. This was supposed to happen before Ortiz announced he would fight Thompson. Is this the fight Ortiz needs? Did he prove he can hang with the best when he beat Jennings? His last fight he as the heaviest he has weight since 2011. At the age of 37, what is really needed for him at this stage in his career?
Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
He's crap. Go watch his fight bs pulev
Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Unfortunately, in Professional Boxing, you don't get fights based on merit.. This was true going back to Harry Wills and is still true.. The politically well connected get the fights they want and the guys who deserve to fight them go begging.. Ortiz was very lucky that John David Jackson agreed to let Bryant Jennings fight him.. I thought JDJ was smarter than that.. However - since Ortiz murdered the iron tough Jennings no other top Heavyweight will give him a nibble. They're going to have to offer somebody an UNREAL amount of money. I'm not sure it's there. Ortiz is 37 and they need to get Fury, Joshua, or Wilder in the ring in rapid fashion or it will be too late to beat these guys.
Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Any fight vs a recognizable name is a good fight for Ortiz. It is a step down from his last two, but he can say he fought the guy that Fury was afraid to fight. 
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asdfjkl
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
I'd like to see Ortiz Haye, it would benefit both and I will see the winner as a serious world top contender
Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Ustinov has a big face 
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PredatorHayds
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Good fight for Ortiz.
He's not far away from a real fight which you'd expect to be WBA champ (fury or Klit).
He's not far away from a real fight which you'd expect to be WBA champ (fury or Klit).
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Ustinov is terrible, no speed, no power, no defense. It's another slot on HBO and his mandatory. Won't be remotely competitive.
Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Since Andy Ruiz murdered Joe Hanks and destroyed his career, he hasn't been able to get an appropriate opponent to save his life.
Eddie Hearn said.. "Joshua wanted to give Andy Ruiz a shot because he's been avoided. He's undefeated with a really great record. The team debated fighting him instead of Breazeale, and I think Ruiz would put up a much better fight than Breazeale personally. But when we looked at footage and photos of Ruiz he just doesn't look the part. We'd get hammered in the media if we fought this guy the way he looks"
So Ruiz is losing out because of his body type. He's not handsome and has a gross looking body so he's SOL.
Eddie Hearn said.. "Joshua wanted to give Andy Ruiz a shot because he's been avoided. He's undefeated with a really great record. The team debated fighting him instead of Breazeale, and I think Ruiz would put up a much better fight than Breazeale personally. But when we looked at footage and photos of Ruiz he just doesn't look the part. We'd get hammered in the media if we fought this guy the way he looks"
So Ruiz is losing out because of his body type. He's not handsome and has a gross looking body so he's SOL.
Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Ustinov doesn't look a whole lot handsomer or fitter than Ruiz - and is about 1/3rd as good. So what's his secret???
Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Ortiz just needs to stay busy and fight whoever they put in front of him. He's a very talented heavy weight who can be competitive with any other fighter in the division.
Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
No.
Ortiz should fight Pulev or Browne after suspension.
Ortiz should fight Pulev or Browne after suspension.
Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
No, at Ortiz's age he needs the biggest fights he can get as soon as he can get them. This fight is just wasting more important time in his career, and advancing him very little.
Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
But Dillion Whyte would beat both, easy, right?asdfjkl wrote:I'd like to see Ortiz Haye, it would benefit both and I will see the winner as a serious world top contender
Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Ortiz became a serious Top contender when he knocked out Jennings.asdfjkl wrote:I'd like to see Ortiz Haye, it would benefit both and I will see the winner as a serious world top contender
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asdfjkl
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Dillian would probably have problems with Ortiz, they got similar style, Ortiz is technically a little better, Whyte is a little bit more fast, it will be a seriously nice fight. Haye would lose badly against Whyte somehow and Ortiz Haye would be close again since Haye is good in running around like a pussy and Ortiz isn't that fast.Wales wrote:But Dillion Whyte would beat both, easy, right?asdfjkl wrote:I'd like to see Ortiz Haye, it would benefit both and I will see the winner as a serious world top contender
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PredatorHayds
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Whyte beats Haye???asdfjkl wrote:Dillian would probably have problems with Ortiz, they got similar style, Ortiz is technically a little better, Whyte is a little bit more fast, it will be a seriously nice fight. Haye would lose badly against Whyte somehow and Ortiz Haye would be close again since Haye is good in running around like a pussy and Ortiz isn't that fast.Wales wrote:But Dillion Whyte would beat both, easy, right?asdfjkl wrote:I'd like to see Ortiz Haye, it would benefit both and I will see the winner as a serious world top contender
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tiny_acres
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Don't hurt yourself hitting your head.I try to take this child's opinions with a grain of salt.PredatorHayds wrote:Whyte beats Haye???asdfjkl wrote:Dillian would probably have problems with Ortiz, they got similar style, Ortiz is technically a little better, Whyte is a little bit more fast, it will be a seriously nice fight. Haye would lose badly against Whyte somehow and Ortiz Haye would be close again since Haye is good in running around like a pussy and Ortiz isn't that fast.Wales wrote:
But Dillion Whyte would beat both, easy, right?
And when I say my nightly prayers I pray his parents ground him from the Internet for a very long time.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
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asdfjkl
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
I'll repeat, if they ever fight I will be amazed if Haye would win.tiny_acres wrote:Don't hurt yourself hitting your head.I try to take this child's opinions with a grain of salt.PredatorHayds wrote:Whyte beats Haye???asdfjkl wrote: Dillian would probably have problems with Ortiz, they got similar style, Ortiz is technically a little better, Whyte is a little bit more fast, it will be a seriously nice fight. Haye would lose badly against Whyte somehow and Ortiz Haye would be close again since Haye is good in running around like a pussy and Ortiz isn't that fast.
And when I say my nightly prayers I pray his parents ground him from the Internet for a very long time.
Somehow I expect Haye to know this and will probably look for bums, or very old guys instead of Whyte.
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foxdog1923
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Hayes looking for Joshua asdfjkl unless you think Joshua is a bum..asdfjkl wrote:I'll repeat, if they ever fight I will be amazed if Haye would win.tiny_acres wrote:Don't hurt yourself hitting your head.I try to take this child's opinions with a grain of salt.PredatorHayds wrote: Whyte beats Haye???
And when I say my nightly prayers I pray his parents ground him from the Internet for a very long time.
Somehow I expect Haye to know this and will probably look for bums, or very old guys instead of Whyte.
Obviously too early for most fans to say what Whyte can or can't do. He hasn't had much fights!
Ustinov vs Ortiz I'd like to see.
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asdfjkl
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
foxdog1923 wrote:Hayes looking for Joshua asdfjkl unless you think Joshua is a bum..asdfjkl wrote:I'll repeat, if they ever fight I will be amazed if Haye would win.tiny_acres wrote:
Don't hurt yourself hitting your head.I try to take this child's opinions with a grain of salt.
And when I say my nightly prayers I pray his parents ground him from the Internet for a very long time.
Somehow I expect Haye to know this and will probably look for bums, or very old guys instead of Whyte.
Obviously too early for most fans to say what Whyte can or can't do. He hasn't had much fights!
Ustinov vs Ortiz I'd like to see.
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Swim Shorts
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Well it's a good knockout for Ortiz i'll tell ya that.
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jujigatame
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
No. Ustinov will be a punching bag for several rounds and then the fight will be stopped.
Hopefully after this we can see Ortiz fight someone worthwhile. Maybe Ortiz/Browne.
Hopefully after this we can see Ortiz fight someone worthwhile. Maybe Ortiz/Browne.
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kidbazooka1
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Re: Is Alexander Ustinov a good fight for Luis Ortiz?
Ortiz beats all the HWs today.
Fury, Aj better hope he gets old soon but i doubt it he's a young 37
Fury, Aj better hope he gets old soon but i doubt it he's a young 37