Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance

[kaiserbill]

These days it's hard to find a Russian athlete who hasn't tested positive for something. The whole damn country is doping. The anti-doping committee is doping.

Stop being so stupid.
Everybody is on it.

I have a very large bridge to sell you. Cheap. Buyer collects.

[Tony1244]

The fight should still happen. Fine or punish Povetkin in some way if it's legit.

The title shouldnt be on the line. That's a fair punishment.

I'll go with that if he's guilty.

[Lackeos]

Wilder Thinks Alexander Povetkin is 'juicing' Tweet

Quitano @quitano Sat, May 30 2015

“I think he’s juicing. He’s looking too big,” Wilder (33-0, 32 KOs) said. “I have people that have trained him and know him, and being from a different country, they have different techniques that they use." - Wilder told USA TODAY Sports in a telephone interview. Wilder offered no proof “He’s on some kind of steroids. But you know, that’s just my opinion." Wilder, who will likely face Povetkin if he defeats Eric Molina in his first title defense on Jun 13th said that he wants full drug testing if he fights Povetkin.

I guess Wilder was right after all with his assumption. Maybe that was originally why Povetkin wanted 6 months to "train" before fighting Wilder? Like Victor Conte once said, it is more of an IQ test than a drug test, and to fail it you have to be pretty stupid.

If Wilder accuses Povetkin of being on steroids and Povetkin was on a vasodilator, then that doesn't mean Wilder was "right." Plus, at the time that Wilder made this statement, the substance that Povetkin has in his system was legal. So he was actually wrong; Povetkin was on 0 illegal substances at the time that Wilder said that.

On an unrelated note, I also felt that Povetkin's bf% has been dropping with suspicious success, but he hasn't been caught using a substance any substances related to that.

[Evander]

Why am I not surprised.

[foxdog1923]

Povetkin sucks just like Browne. They have fans who believe in them more than they do and that's why they SUCK!

[ikorolev]

I see this positive test as a minor transgression. If the WBC allows, this fight might still salvageable. Wilder has been in England sparring the last few weeks to prepare. He would be out a lot of money not to mention missing the largest purse of his career. I think he would be pushing for the fight to go ahead if the ball is in his court.

They allowed Vargas to fight, so I don't see why they shouldn't allow Povetkin.

[ikorolev]

Russians cheating in boxing is about as expected as Brazilians cheating in MMA. Pretty much expected.

Are you genuinely this stupid?
Almost every single athlete earning good money is on PED's.
That includes athletes from the nation that believes in profoundly stupid concepts such as "Manifest Destiny", and other such rubbish.

When one guy gets caught they're all cheating. Isn't that right? If we are being honest I do agree they all cheat. But to different extents. Some guys are on heavy duty stuff. Some guys are on stuff less deliberate.

Using PEDs is a scientific process supported by boxers' "nutritionists". Povetkin's team just screwed up and left a tiny trace in. Somebody had too much vodka and forgot to give Sasha something to get rid of meldonium.

[Badhusker]

Wilder Thinks Alexander Povetkin is 'juicing' Tweet

Quitano @quitano Sat, May 30 2015

“I think he’s juicing. He’s looking too big,” Wilder (33-0, 32 KOs) said. “I have people that have trained him and know him, and being from a different country, they have different techniques that they use." - Wilder told USA TODAY Sports in a telephone interview. Wilder offered no proof “He’s on some kind of steroids. But you know, that’s just my opinion." Wilder, who will likely face Povetkin if he defeats Eric Molina in his first title defense on Jun 13th said that he wants full drug testing if he fights Povetkin.

I guess Wilder was right after all with his assumption. Maybe that was originally why Povetkin wanted 6 months to "train" before fighting Wilder? Like Victor Conte once said, it is more of an IQ test than a drug test, and to fail it you have to be pretty stupid.

If Wilder accuses Povetkin of being on steroids and Povetkin was on a vasodilator, then that doesn't mean Wilder was "right." Plus, at the time that Wilder made this statement, the substance that Povetkin has in his system was legal. So he was actually wrong; Povetkin was on 0 illegal substances at the time that Wilder said that.

On an unrelated note, I also felt that Povetkin's bf% has been dropping with suspicious success, but he hasn't been caught using a substance any substances related to that.

I guess if you don't get tested randomly, your body fat can go down, you can bulk up, etc, with suspicious success. Has Povetkin ever been randomly tested before?

He should have just said something like taking blood makes him weak, he is superstitious, afraid of needles, and not agreed to random testing so close to the fight, and he would be fine.

I hope the fight goes on, and Wilder beats the piss out of him. For punishment, make it so the belt is not on the line, and Povetkin forfeits his entire purse to Wilder, win or lose. See how bad he wants to fight.

[Evander]

Hard to imagine how they go through with the fight now, maybe a substitute can step in for Povetkin on a weeks notice.

[Badhusker]

Hard to imagine how they go through with the fight now, maybe a substitute can step in for Povetkin on a weeks notice.

Yes, and if someone does, Wilder will get accused of fighting a tomato can, or cherry picking.

[Evander]

Hard to imagine how they go through with the fight now, maybe a substitute can step in for Povetkin on a weeks notice.

Yes, and if someone does, Wilder will get accused of fighting a tomato can, or cherry picking.

I can't see how they could pin anything on Wilder.
If they want to save the show the only conceivable action is to bring in a substitute and even then Wilder has to agree to it.

[Ilya Muromets]

They are just fishing for an advance excuse for the bum Wilder. It appears that the amount of the previously legal (!) drug they detected is far below allowable limits:

http://www.BS.com/povetkins-pr ... ms--104547

[Best Coast]

They are just fishing for an advance excuse for the bum Wilder. It appears that the amount of the previously legal (!) drug is far below allowable limits:

http://www.BS.com/povetkins-pr ... ms--104547

Excuse?!?

The photo with that article you linked shows Povetkin with a HARD BODY. much more ripped than what he used to be!!

Ryabinskiy's claim that Povetkin took the PED before it was illegal means it was STILL in his system just a few days shy of 4 MONTHS!! The sample was taken on 4/27 > that's 118 days after January 1, 2016!

[sweetviolenturge]

Now how did I know that all the Wilder-haters/Povetkin fans would crawl out of the woodwork & find ways to spin this into something to blame on Wilder?
They're SO predictable.
Though were the fighter's roles reversed, they'd now be calling for the cancellation of the fight, the stripping of the 'BC belt & an immediate lifetime banning of Wilder. LOL.

[ikorolev]

They are just fishing for an advance excuse for the bum Wilder. It appears that the amount of the previously legal (!) drug is far below allowable limits:

http://www.BS.com/povetkins-pr ... ms--104547

So, why did they even say that the test was positive if Ryabinsky's number is correct ?

According to the World Anti-Doping Agency's standards, concentration of meldonium within a span of 1 to 15 micrograms is virtually acceptable for the probes, made from January 1st till March the 1st of this year, while probes with traces of meldonium, performed since March 1st, can be detected as positive for a quantity exceeding a limit of 1 microgram. Povetkin's current concentration is 70 nanograms = 0.07 of a microgram, according to the promoter.

[sweetviolenturge]

Personally, I hope there's a way to salvage the fight, because I'm confident in his ability to beat Povetkin.
But, I don't think that a fine is punitive enough for the Russian. Nope.
But, I do like the idea of the fight being downgraded to a non-title bout & that Povetkin should forfeit a portion of his purse to Wilder.
If Povetkin & his people agree to those terms then the promotion should be allowed to continue. And, I really don't think that they're in a position to say "no".
Then, should Povetkin win, he can retain his status as the #1 contender & negotiate a rematch for the title down the line.
And, if Wilder wins, he gets credit for having made his mandatory title defense & Povetkin steps to the back of the line.

[ikorolev]

If the BS article is correct as well as the detected amount reported by Ryabinsky, then WBC will just allow the fight to proceed.

[Ilya Muromets]

So, why did they even say that the test was positive if Ryabinsky's number is correct ?

WHO said? The OP didn't even provide a source link. There is nothing about it on Fightnews.

[ikorolev]

So, why did they even say that the test was positive if Ryabinsky's number is correct ?

WHO said? The OP didn't even provide a source link. There is nothing about it on Fightnews.

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/news/6690-v ... ple-result

"Today, VADA reported to the WBC and the fighters’ camps the results of an anti-doping test Povetkin underwent from a sample collected on April 27, 2016. VADA’s report states that Povetkin’s sample A showed an adverse result for the banned substance Meldonium. The WBC also received specific information from the World Anti-Doping Agency about such substance Meldonium .

The WBC’s priority is and will always be safety, fair play and justice. In order to continue to strive for the absolute safety of the boxers and for a just and fair outcome for all parties involved, the WBC is conducting an in-depth investigation of this matter.

The WBC will make a public announcement in the very near future concerning the results of its investigation and any appropriate steps that it will take."

[Tarkus]

Happiness did not last for long for Deontay. He was already dreaming of his next cub driver opponent. But no, it seems that the drug concentration is under the permitted limit. Moscow massacre is back on!

[asdfjkl]

I feel strongly disappointed in him somehow, I never expected him to be a cheater, but I guess I have to wake up on that point...

I am laughing my ass off right now. Yeah, Povetkin, never in shape for 90% of his career, as a chubby 20-30yr old, suddenly begins to 'train seriously' & looks like Hulk at 37. He's flicking his finger & BOOOM! I've been saying it for the last two years, he's on something.

Gratz, but please notice that this stuff doesn't make you stronger, it just makes you last longer, and the amount found is absolutely minimum, probably even something that's still left from when it was allowed. I still feel sad for him even looking for unfair advantages, legal or illegal.

[asdfjkl]

Personally, I hope there's a way to salvage the fight, because I'm confident in his ability to beat Povetkin.
But, I don't think that a fine is punitive enough for the Russian. Nope.
But, I do like the idea of the fight being downgraded to a non-title bout & that Povetkin should forfeit a portion of his purse to Wilder.
If Povetkin & his people agree to those terms then the promotion should be allowed to continue. And, I really don't think that they're in a position to say "no".
Then, should Povetkin win, he can retain his status as the #1 contender & negotiate a rematch for the title down the line.
And, if Wilder wins, he gets credit for having made his mandatory title defense & Povetkin steps to the back of the line.

That sounds like, we appriciate to take your money, but basically you can't win a damn thing.

[asdfjkl]

They are just fishing for an advance excuse for the bum Wilder. It appears that the amount of the previously legal (!) drug they detected is far below allowable limits:

http://www.BS.com/povetkins-pr ... ms--104547

Oh, wow, if that's true, then how sad must Deontay Wilder his team be? Occusing someone openly from such things knowing that they lie?! Wilder and his entire team are really sad, silly kids if that's true. And it probably is true, knowing Wilder...

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Look at the dates, sweetie.

[asdfjkl]

Look at the dates, sweetie.

May 13th... That's yesterday, the same day Wilder his team suggested Povetkin cheated while they know he didn't?