POVETKIN DID NOT FAIL HIS DRUG TEST

[asdfjkl]

WBC and VADA proved you wrong.

Wada proved Povetkin right actually, just watch the papers, their own papers.

Gotta love these Povetkin apologists.

Just watch the papers?

Gotta love these fake champ fanboys

[Badhusker]

Yes. You clearly don't know what you are talking about

As it stands, Povetkin is a cheater.

You're wrong, just watch the papers.

WBC and VADA proved you wrong.

Might as well reason with a box of rocks than asdfjkl or Kalan when it comes to Povetkin. Personally I think Povetkin tested dirty on purpose to get out of the fight with Wilder. How is that for a theory? Povetkin tested clean twice a couple weeks before testing dirty. No on can seem to explain that.

[asdfjkl]

You're wrong, just watch the papers.

WBC and VADA proved you wrong.

Might as well reason with a box of rocks than asdfjkl or Kalan when it comes to Povetkin. Personally I think Povetkin tested dirty on purpose to get out of the fight with Wilder. How is that for a theory? Povetkin tested clean twice a couple weeks before testing dirty. No on can seem to explain that.

Well pretty easy actually, Povetkin was clean all the time and currently still is...

[flem1]

WBC and VADA proved you wrong.

Might as well reason with a box of rocks than asdfjkl or Kalan when it comes to Povetkin. Personally I think Povetkin tested dirty on purpose to get out of the fight with Wilder. How is that for a theory? Povetkin tested clean twice a couple weeks before testing dirty. No on can seem to explain that.

Well pretty easy actually, Povetkin was clean all the time and currently still is...

You mean WBC and VADA were lying when they said Povetkin failed his drug test?

I know you are strongly hoping Pov is clean but he did fail his test, ruined Wilder's WBC defense, prevented him from earning his career high payday, and disappointed many boxing fans

[flem1]

You're wrong, just watch the papers.

WBC and VADA proved you wrong.

Might as well reason with a box of rocks than asdfjkl or Kalan when it comes to Povetkin. Personally I think Povetkin tested dirty on purpose to get out of the fight with Wilder. How is that for a theory? Povetkin tested clean twice a couple weeks before testing dirty. No on can seem to explain that.

It's actually fun throwing facts at them

But yeah, they seem to be ignoring the fact Povetkin was clean in his 3 previous test then tested positive in the 4th one.

I wonder why?

[sucracristo]

WBC and VADA proved you wrong.

Might as well reason with a box of rocks than asdfjkl or Kalan when it comes to Povetkin. Personally I think Povetkin tested dirty on purpose to get out of the fight with Wilder. How is that for a theory? Povetkin tested clean twice a couple weeks before testing dirty. No on can seem to explain that.

It's actually fun throwing facts at them

But yeah, they seem to be ignoring the fact Povetkin was clean in his 3 previous test then tested positive in the 4th one.

I wonder why?

povetkin was sparring with a bunch of slow 5'10" cruisers expecting that to prepare him for wilder.
if the bum rush didn't work early, a mountain of meldonium wasn't going to help.
why does it seem like the dumbest thread titles fill up the most pages?

[Kalan]

You're wrong, just watch the papers.

WBC and VADA proved you wrong.

Might as well reason with a box of rocks than asdfjkl or Kalan when it comes to Povetkin. Personally I think Povetkin tested dirty on purpose to get out of the fight with Wilder. How is that for a theory? Povetkin tested clean twice a couple weeks before testing dirty. No on can seem to explain that.

Povetkin NEVER tested dirty EVER... AGAIN!!!! Your pee is yellow sometimes, and looks more clear other times, depending on how hydrated you are... IF you're well hydrated and have a negligible trace of Meldonium in your system you'll test completely clear. But IF you're NOT well hydrated you will still test NEGATIVE with an extremely negligible and allowable trace of Meldonium, that for Povetkin was 1/15th the allowable concentrations... But ALL his tests are negative. You people definitely have rocks in your head if you can't figure out negative tests are NEGATIVE for concentrations ABOVE the allowable amount, and POSITIVE tests are positive for concentrations above the allowable amount. Americans fact spinners ran with that saying there were some trace amounts after there were NO trace amounts - when it doesn't matter because ALL the tests passed with flying colors.

[foxdog1923]

WBC and VADA proved you wrong.

Might as well reason with a box of rocks than asdfjkl or Kalan when it comes to Povetkin. Personally I think Povetkin tested dirty on purpose to get out of the fight with Wilder. How is that for a theory? Povetkin tested clean twice a couple weeks before testing dirty. No on can seem to explain that.

It's actually fun throwing facts at them

But yeah, they seem to be ignoring the fact Povetkin was clean in his 3 previous test then tested positive in the 4th one.

I wonder why?

Kalan and asdfjkl are the forums idiots. They are proven wrong everytime one asks why this fight never took place.

[flem1]

Might as well reason with a box of rocks than asdfjkl or Kalan when it comes to Povetkin. Personally I think Povetkin tested dirty on purpose to get out of the fight with Wilder. How is that for a theory? Povetkin tested clean twice a couple weeks before testing dirty. No on can seem to explain that.

It's actually fun throwing facts at them

But yeah, they seem to be ignoring the fact Povetkin was clean in his 3 previous test then tested positive in the 4th one.

I wonder why?

Kalan and asdfjkl are the forums idiots. They are proven wrong everytime one asks why this fight never took place.

Yep. I agree. Both are idiots.

[flem1]

WBC and VADA proved you wrong.

Might as well reason with a box of rocks than asdfjkl or Kalan when it comes to Povetkin. Personally I think Povetkin tested dirty on purpose to get out of the fight with Wilder. How is that for a theory? Povetkin tested clean twice a couple weeks before testing dirty. No on can seem to explain that.

Povetkin NEVER tested dirty EVER... AGAIN!!!! Your pee is yellow sometimes, and looks more clear other times, depending on how hydrated you are... IF you're well hydrated and have a negligible trace of Meldonium in your system you'll test completely clear. But IF you're NOT well hydrated you will still test NEGATIVE with an extremely negligible and allowable trace of Meldonium, that for Povetkin was 1/15th the allowable concentrations... But ALL his tests are negative. You people definitely have rocks in your head if you can't figure out negative tests are NEGATIVE for concentrations ABOVE the allowable amount, and POSITIVE tests are positive for concentrations above the allowable amount. Americans fact spinners ran with that saying there were some trace amounts after there were NO trace amounts - when it doesn't matter because ALL the tests passed with flying colors.

That wall of text you just typed sure is entertaining

I think you as a boxing fan should urge Povetkin and his team to test his B sample. So far they haven't even mentioned testing Pov's B sample. What's your opinion on that?

[Tarkus]

I think you as a boxing fan should urge Povetkin and his team to test his B sample. So far they haven't even mentioned testing Pov's B sample. What's your opinion on that?

Why would they want B sample when they admit the possibility of having meldonium within the allowed concentrations.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

It's actually fun throwing facts at them

But yeah, they seem to be ignoring the fact Povetkin was clean in his 3 previous test then tested positive in the 4th one.

I wonder why?

Kalan and asdfjkl are the forums idiots. They are proven wrong everytime one asks why this fight never took place.

Yep. I agree. Both are idiots.

No both, same poster.

[asdfjkl]

Might as well reason with a box of rocks than asdfjkl or Kalan when it comes to Povetkin. Personally I think Povetkin tested dirty on purpose to get out of the fight with Wilder. How is that for a theory? Povetkin tested clean twice a couple weeks before testing dirty. No on can seem to explain that.

Well pretty easy actually, Povetkin was clean all the time and currently still is...

You mean WBC and VADA were lying when they said Povetkin failed his drug test?

I know you are strongly hoping Pov is clean but he did fail his test, ruined Wilder's WBC defense, prevented him from earning his career high payday, and disappointed many boxing fans

Nop, here is what Wada says:
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com ... ice-en.pdf

From start till end, Povetkin and his team were perfectly right, Wilder might have some media and a bunch of retards behind them, doesn't mean Povetkin did anything illegal.

And I'm not Kalam or kalem or whatever his name is.

[Serragon]

Well pretty easy actually, Povetkin was clean all the time and currently still is...

You mean WBC and VADA were lying when they said Povetkin failed his drug test?

I know you are strongly hoping Pov is clean but he did fail his test, ruined Wilder's WBC defense, prevented him from earning his career high payday, and disappointed many boxing fans

Nop, here is what Wada says:
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com ... ice-en.pdf

From start till end, Povetkin and his team were perfectly right, Wilder might have some media and a bunch of retards behind them, doesn't mean Povetkin did anything illegal.

And I'm not Kalam or kalem or whatever his name is.

Thanks for the link to the PDF. Very helpful.

Basically, it reads as follows (based on the test date of April):

< 1mg = Needs further investigation
>=1mg = Failed

The whole thing hinges on the concentration found in his test. Problem is neither WADA or the WBC have released the concentration levels. As far as I am aware, we have only heard about the concentration level from Povetkins' team. (Please link to another source if this is incorrect).

So really any speculation about whether he failed or didn't fail is premature. Let the WBC finish their investigation and let more facts come out.

[Kalan]

Well pretty easy actually, Povetkin was clean all the time and currently still is...

You mean WBC and VADA were lying when they said Povetkin failed his drug test?

I know you are strongly hoping Pov is clean but he did fail his test, ruined Wilder's WBC defense, prevented him from earning his career high payday, and disappointed many boxing fans

Nop, here is what Wada says:
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com ... ice-en.pdf

From start till end, Povetkin and his team were perfectly right, Wilder might have some media and a bunch of retards behind them, doesn't mean Povetkin did anything illegal.

And I'm not Kalam or kalem or whatever his name is.

Look... Every poster with a brain knows you're not me... and knows flem, badhusker, Saad and foxdog are freakin' STUPID JERKS.. and all the evidence that come to light so far reveals that Povetkin has been the victim a high volume railroading and smear job.. For the future the name is Kalan. Like alan with a K

[Badhusker]

You mean WBC and VADA were lying when they said Povetkin failed his drug test?

I know you are strongly hoping Pov is clean but he did fail his test, ruined Wilder's WBC defense, prevented him from earning his career high payday, and disappointed many boxing fans

Nop, here is what Wada says:
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com ... ice-en.pdf

From start till end, Povetkin and his team were perfectly right, Wilder might have some media and a bunch of retards behind them, doesn't mean Povetkin did anything illegal.

And I'm not Kalam or kalem or whatever his name is.

Look... Every poster with a brain knows you're not me... and knows flem, badhusker, Saad and foxdog are freakin' STUPID JERKS.. and all the evidence that come to light so far reveals that Povetkin has been the victim a high volume railroading and smear job.. For the future the name is Kalan. Like alan with a K

[Kalan]

WADA... "Long term urinary excretion of Meddonium below 1 μg/mL down to several hundred ng/mL can persist for a number of weeks and in the low tens of ng/mL for a few months."

That's why Povetkin tested negative for disallowed concentrations (1/15th the allowable amount) in ALL his tests.. Nobody is going to be able to prove he failed any tests and if they try to fake them they'll be met in court.. by a determined Povetkin team.. There is judicial corruption as well -like there was for 20 years while Hurricane Carter languished needlessly in prison because of corrupt judges.. But I doubt if that will happen in this case.. Pacquiao beat Mayweather, De La Hoya, Shaefer, and Golden Boy in American courts on his defamation case.. I always expected he would win.. He was an extremely popular boxer who had a lot of money to pay lawyers.. He wasn't putting up with being called a cheat.. This is the same thing basically except a man is being deprived of his opportunity and he's 36 years old.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

ok

[flem1]

Well pretty easy actually, Povetkin was clean all the time and currently still is...

You mean WBC and VADA were lying when they said Povetkin failed his drug test?

I know you are strongly hoping Pov is clean but he did fail his test, ruined Wilder's WBC defense, prevented him from earning his career high payday, and disappointed many boxing fans

Nop, here is what Wada says:
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com ... ice-en.pdf

From start till end, Povetkin and his team were perfectly right, Wilder might have some media and a bunch of retards behind them, doesn't mean Povetkin did anything illegal.

And I'm not Kalam or kalem or whatever his name is.

Again, only Ryanbinski provided the .70 mcg figure. We have yet to hear the true amount that VADA found. WBC found enough reason to postpone the fight though.

So as of now, Povetkin is a cheater

[flem1]

WADA... "Long term urinary excretion of Meddonium below 1 μg/mL down to several hundred ng/mL can persist for a number of weeks and in the low tens of ng/mL for a few months."

That's why Povetkin tested negative for disallowed concentrations (1/15th the allowable amount) in ALL his tests.. Nobody is going to be able to prove he failed any tests and if they try to fake them they'll be met in court.. by a determined Povetkin team.. There is judicial corruption as well -like there was for 20 years while Hurricane Carter languished needlessly in prison because of corrupt judges.. But I doubt if that will happen in this case.. Pacquiao beat Mayweather, De La Hoya, Shaefer, and Golden Boy in American courts on his defamation case.. I always expected he would win.. He was an extremely popular boxer who had a lot of money to pay lawyers.. He wasn't putting up with being called a cheat.. This is the same thing basically except a man is being deprived of his opportunity and he's 36 years old.

WBC and VADA said Povetkin tested positive

[flem1]

You mean WBC and VADA were lying when they said Povetkin failed his drug test?

I know you are strongly hoping Pov is clean but he did fail his test, ruined Wilder's WBC defense, prevented him from earning his career high payday, and disappointed many boxing fans

Nop, here is what Wada says:
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com ... ice-en.pdf

From start till end, Povetkin and his team were perfectly right, Wilder might have some media and a bunch of retards behind them, doesn't mean Povetkin did anything illegal.

And I'm not Kalam or kalem or whatever his name is.

Look... Every poster with a brain knows you're not me... and knows flem, badhusker, Saad and foxdog are freakin' STUPID JERKS.. and all the evidence that come to light so far reveals that Povetkin has been the victim a high volume railroading and smear job.. For the future the name is Kalan. Like alan with a K

But as a stupid jerk I was only presenting facts that WBC and VADA relayed.

You have no evidence actually of Povetkin's negative test

[asdfjkl]

You mean WBC and VADA were lying when they said Povetkin failed his drug test?

I know you are strongly hoping Pov is clean but he did fail his test, ruined Wilder's WBC defense, prevented him from earning his career high payday, and disappointed many boxing fans

Nop, here is what Wada says:
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com ... ice-en.pdf

From start till end, Povetkin and his team were perfectly right, Wilder might have some media and a bunch of retards behind them, doesn't mean Povetkin did anything illegal.

And I'm not Kalam or kalem or whatever his name is.

Again, only Ryanbinski provided the .70 mcg figure. We have yet to hear the true amount that VADA found. WBC found enough reason to postpone the fight though.

So as of now, Povetkin is a cheater

So because Wilder and the WBC work together you now act like you don't believe the 0.070 number?

[asdfjkl]

Nop, here is what Wada says:
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com ... ice-en.pdf

From start till end, Povetkin and his team were perfectly right, Wilder might have some media and a bunch of retards behind them, doesn't mean Povetkin did anything illegal.

And I'm not Kalam or kalem or whatever his name is.

Look... Every poster with a brain knows you're not me... and knows flem, badhusker, Saad and foxdog are freakin' STUPID JERKS.. and all the evidence that come to light so far reveals that Povetkin has been the victim a high volume railroading and smear job.. For the future the name is Kalan. Like alan with a K

But as a stupid jerk I was only presenting facts that WBC and VADA relayed.

You have no evidence actually of Povetkin's negative test

Lol and you don't have evidence of a positive test, since it simply doesn't exist.

[flem1]

Look... Every poster with a brain knows you're not me... and knows flem, badhusker, Saad and foxdog are freakin' STUPID JERKS.. and all the evidence that come to light so far reveals that Povetkin has been the victim a high volume railroading and smear job.. For the future the name is Kalan. Like alan with a K

But as a stupid jerk I was only presenting facts that WBC and VADA relayed.

You have no evidence actually of Povetkin's negative test

Lol and you don't have evidence of a positive test, since it simply doesn't exist.

We do have WBC's statement though

Yeah, keep ignoring that

[flem1]

Nop, here is what Wada says:
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com ... ice-en.pdf

From start till end, Povetkin and his team were perfectly right, Wilder might have some media and a bunch of retards behind them, doesn't mean Povetkin did anything illegal.

And I'm not Kalam or kalem or whatever his name is.

Again, only Ryanbinski provided the .70 mcg figure. We have yet to hear the true amount that VADA found. WBC found enough reason to postpone the fight though.

So as of now, Povetkin is a cheater

So because Wilder and the WBC work together you now act like you don't believe the 0.070 number?

Care to explain how WBC and Wilder are working together?

I'm not believing Ryanbinsk's mouth until we get a full report from WBC's investigation.

You have to remember Ryanbinski was so convinced that Durodola was on PEDs when he KOd Khudryashov but it got him nowhere because RUSADA is unreliable