Chagaev Champion Again
Chagaev Champion Again
According to the latest WBA rankings, Ruslan Chagaev has become the WBA 'Regular' champion.
It seems his loss to Lucas Browne has been overturned. I don't remember reading anything about that - very strange.
I mean, I know about Browne being stripped of the belt and banned for 6 months, but I didn't know Chagaev had been awarded the title!
http://www.wbanews.com/wba-ranking#.V2J9hb3mctE
It seems his loss to Lucas Browne has been overturned. I don't remember reading anything about that - very strange.
I mean, I know about Browne being stripped of the belt and banned for 6 months, but I didn't know Chagaev had been awarded the title!
http://www.wbanews.com/wba-ranking#.V2J9hb3mctE
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Bard of Boxrec
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Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Just another alphabet soup 'make it up as we go along' ruling I guess.
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This is how Chagaev wins them.
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jujigatame
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The result still stands in the BoxRec ratings. I still hope to see Browne on TV again. It was a great fight and a great comeback.
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Will it go down on their records as a NC then ?
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Can't wait for the Oquendo rematch 
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He's now a 3-time champion, the-modern day Muhammad Ali.
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asdfjkl
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Well, if that's true I hope he will fight Ortiz soon.
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boxing_rocks
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What about Sturm's positive test ? WBA still has the cheater as the champ.
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funso banjo baby
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boxrec dsnt even list Larry holmes v Marvis frazier as a title fight ??????
but the alphabets are a bunch of turdy plop plops
but the alphabets are a bunch of turdy plop plops
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As soon as Chagaev attempts to unify, the WBA are going to strip him and make Valuev champion again.
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GhostBoxing15
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Can't see Oquendo going to Chechnya, this fight may have to be on neutral turf after past eventscrusader wrote:Can't wait for the Oquendo rematch
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GhostBoxing15
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if anyone gets off a Positive it would be Sturm, has been WBA protected species for a decadeboxing_rocks wrote:What about Sturm's positive test ? WBA still has the cheater as the champ.
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ClivePatrickLyons
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boxing_rocks wrote:What about Sturm's positive test ? WBA still has the cheater as the champ.
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Only if the commission overturns it.littlepug wrote:Will it go down on their records as a NC then ?
The sanctioning body can do anything they want with its belt regardless of official results. They can keep boxers from fighting for their belts and ratings but only the commissions can issue a suspension that actually keeps boxers out of the ring.
If the commission has not declared the fight a NC then it is still an official win for Browne regardless of the WBA ruling.
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Are there any doubts that the Chechen/Russian commission will overturn it?Perseus wrote:Only if the commission overturns it.littlepug wrote:Will it go down on their records as a NC then ?
The sanctioning body can do anything they want with its belt regardless of official results. They can keep boxers from fighting for their belts and ratings but only the commissions can issue a suspension that actually keeps boxers out of the ring.
If the commission has not declared the fight a NC then it is still an official win for Browne regardless of the WBA ruling.
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Chagaev Champion Again
He wasn't a WBA champion for many years until the robbery against Chudinov.GhostBoxing15 wrote:if anyone gets off a Positive it would be Sturm, has been WBA protected species for a decadeboxing_rocks wrote:What about Sturm's positive test ? WBA still has the cheater as the champ.
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so the number 29 of the boxrec heavy weight
list holds the title which muhammad ali held.
list holds the title which muhammad ali held.
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Like a Boss
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Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Hard to understand how that can be the case. Perhaps Boxrec are just waiting for the right authority to notify them of a change?jujigatame wrote:The result still stands in the BoxRec ratings...
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PredatorHayds
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Re: Chagaev Champion Again
wouter wrote:He's now a 3-time champion, the-modern day Muhammad Ali.
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I don't believe Lucas doped. I don't know 100%, but Russia is dodgy as hell and he seems genuine.
I do feel for Browne, I think he was railroaded.
I do feel for Browne, I think he was railroaded.
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wouter wrote:He's now a 3-time champion, the-modern day Muhammad Ali.
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the_doctor
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Why do they need an "Interim" Champion (Ortiz) when we've already got a Regular Champion (Chagaev) and a Unified Champion (Fury)
Only thing that makes sense it to have Ortiz vs. Chagaev as soon as possible.
Only thing that makes sense it to have Ortiz vs. Chagaev as soon as possible.
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jujigatame
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It does help his case that he tested negative 6 days before the fight. It doesn't make sense that he would suddenly take a bunch of steroids only a few days from the fight. The cost/benefit analysis just isn't there.Loki wrote:I don't believe Lucas doped. I don't know 100%, but Russia is dodgy as hell and he seems genuine.
I do feel for Browne, I think he was railroaded.
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GhostBoxing15
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Sturm tested negative to Pre fight testing, Your theory would see Sturm innocentjujigatame wrote:It does help his case that he tested negative 6 days before the fight. It doesn't make sense that he would suddenly take a bunch of steroids only a few days from the fight. The cost/benefit analysis just isn't there.Loki wrote:I don't believe Lucas doped. I don't know 100%, but Russia is dodgy as hell and he seems genuine.
I do feel for Browne, I think he was railroaded.
