Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
...and good riddance too, still no reason to fight a welterweight..is not something we would expect of GGG..pound per pound wrote:greg wrote:...props to Brook, disappointed with GGG's team decision...
Why. Canelo ran, and Eubank jr wants no part of him.
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GGG had to fight somebody after hard negotiations with Canelo, Jacobs, Saunders, and Eubank went nowhere... Ali fought Leon Spinks who he outweighed by 27 pounds.... Holmes fought Michael Spinks who was fighting 40 pounds lighter... They both LOST!!!!!!
Sugar Ray Robinson fought Welterweight Carmen Basilio for his Middleweight Title... SRR lost too... But somehow with Triple-G the rules are different.
Sugar Ray Robinson fought Welterweight Carmen Basilio for his Middleweight Title... SRR lost too... But somehow with Triple-G the rules are different.
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Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
1. Does this fight equal Canelo/Khan ... NO! Brook has a good shot at beating Canelo. Brook isn't damaged goods (yet).
2. Brook didn't seem too bothered by Porter's strength. That means he's probably as strong as a middleweight.
3. BUT ... this is GGG and I don't think Brook is the master boxer people are trying to make him out to be.
He's more of a grinder type. You can't win like that against a bigger, more skilled opponent.
4. You're telling me that it's really this impossible for Haymon and HBO to work together?
Just let there a PBC on HBO so we can have Quillin VS GGG.
After that fight, Haymon wouldn't want to see HBO for another 5 years ...
... but HBO
2. Brook didn't seem too bothered by Porter's strength. That means he's probably as strong as a middleweight.
3. BUT ... this is GGG and I don't think Brook is the master boxer people are trying to make him out to be.
He's more of a grinder type. You can't win like that against a bigger, more skilled opponent.
4. You're telling me that it's really this impossible for Haymon and HBO to work together?
Just let there a PBC on HBO so we can have Quillin VS GGG.
After that fight, Haymon wouldn't want to see HBO for another 5 years ...
... but HBO
Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
Where'd that come from???
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Fight just came up out of nowhere. Brook's got balls for taking it, but he's gonna get destroyed.
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Nobody at 160 wants it though, Brook is the next best thing before moving up to 168lefty wrote:If we're being objective Golovkin should probably get the same criticism for fighting a 147'er that Canelo got for fighting Khan. I think it will be a fun fight though.
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That's what I thought , bet nobody could predict thisNoxy wrote:Where'd that come from???
At least it's given old happy bollox "HORSE" something to chew over
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obviously the selected examples areKalan wrote:GGG had to fight somebody after hard negotiations with Canelo, Jacobs, Saunders, and Eubank went nowhere... Ali fought Leon Spinks who he outweighed by 27 pounds.... Holmes fought Michael Spinks who was fighting 40 pounds lighter... They both LOST!!!!!!
Sugar Ray Robinson fought Welterweight Carmen Basilio for his Middleweight Title... SRR lost too... But somehow with Triple-G the rules are different.
to prove a bias. usually fights with
much smaller guys are not appreciated
for a reason.
actually even two of the examples are quite
questionable. SRR was passed his best, not
to speak of ali. means we are left with ageing
holmes against peaking spinks. yes these
things do happen, yet more often than not
it is more like ... canelo-khan.
Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
This is f*cking absurd. What the hell is wrong with this sport? Middleweights can't even deal with this dude and now he's fighting a welter?!
This is dumb. But not surprising.
This is dumb. But not surprising.
Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
He is?!? How bout at least fighting some 154s like Lara, Andrade, Charlo instead ?DannyMCR wrote:Nobody at 160 wants it though, Brook is the next best thing before moving up to 168lefty wrote:If we're being objective Golovkin should probably get the same criticism for fighting a 147'er that Canelo got for fighting Khan. I think it will be a fun fight though.
Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
That is B/S, nobody wants to fight him. Canelo,Eubank,Sanders all a no go.lefty wrote:If we're being objective Golovkin should probably get the same criticism for fighting a 147'er that Canelo got for fighting Khan. I think it will be a fun fight though.
Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
So Kell Brook is going to roll the dice I'm impressed, takes some balls fighting GGG at this point in his career.
Hats off to Brook for manning up
Hats off to Brook for manning up
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I do think they could have found at least some Jr. Middle tho.
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Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
Hearn just offered somebody else from his stable to replace Eubank. Thanks God, it wasn't Joshua !gilgamesh wrote:Fight just came up out of nowhere. Brook's got balls for taking it, but he's gonna get destroyed.
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Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
I am a huge fan of Gennady, but I don't like this fight. If top MWs were not available, Loefler should have at least spent a week trying to talk to Lara's team before picking a WW.
Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
I think people will be surprised when they see GGG and Brook standing side by side at the weigh in or in the ring. There will be very little size difference.
Naturally GGG will be a huge favourite but Brook has a much better chance than Khan did against Canelo. Brook starves himself to get to Welter. He is naturally a light middle or even a middle. Also Brook punches much harder than Khan, is technically superior than Khan and definitely more intelligent. Khan merely has a speed advantage.
Naturally GGG will be a huge favourite but Brook has a much better chance than Khan did against Canelo. Brook starves himself to get to Welter. He is naturally a light middle or even a middle. Also Brook punches much harder than Khan, is technically superior than Khan and definitely more intelligent. Khan merely has a speed advantage.
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Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
Not at all should GGG be treated the same as Canelo, Canelo's team pursued Khan even though every middleweight would fight Canelo while GGG's team have chased Canelo, BJS and got messed about by the Eubank's, they got offered the Brook fight they didn't chase him, also GGG wants to fight 3/4 times a year he cant waste time This is TOTALLY different.lefty wrote:If we're being objective Golovkin should probably get the same criticism for fighting a 147'er that Canelo got for fighting Khan. I think it will be a fun fight though.
Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
This fight is at Middleweight 160 Lbs.
Brook is moving up 2 weight classes.
Brook is moving up 2 weight classes.
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Spin it however you want, but it is still a bit of a cherry pick from team GGG. Brook is still a big welterweight, but not a Jr. Middle or MW. Some talk like it will be no problem fighting at 160 for the first time. Its shocking (not) what people will do for money. Like the Canelo/Khan fight, I hope the cherry pick backfires. It makes no difference who pursued who. Lara is a much more well known name worldwide than Brook. Brook has one win of note, out of 36, and it was controversial. It IS much like the Khan/Canelo fight. Absolutely no career damaging risk involved for Brook.Larrylefthook wrote:Not at all should GGG be treated the same as Canelo, Canelo's team pursued Khan even though every middleweight would fight Canelo while GGG's team have chased Canelo, BJS and got messed about by the Eubank's, they got offered the Brook fight they didn't chase him, also GGG wants to fight 3/4 times a year he cant waste time This is TOTALLY different.lefty wrote:If we're being objective Golovkin should probably get the same criticism for fighting a 147'er that Canelo got for fighting Khan. I think it will be a fun fight though.
All that said I will look forward to it happening. DannyMCR: you mentioned Brook is a better fight for GGG than any Jr. Middle or Middle? If he was he wouldn't be cutting weight like he has been.
Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
GGG Punches hard but his predictable positioning and style is a plus for the opposition.
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Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
I am unhappy about this choice, but Lara wants GGG not more than Eubanks. He is just looking for publicity. Andrade and Charlos don't want GGG either. I would just prefer that Loefler had made a public effort to get those guys into the ring and only then picked somebody less acceptable.
Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
If someone had a problem with Brook getting the decision over Porter they probably don't know how to score fights well.Badhusker wrote:Spin it however you want, but it is still a bit of a cherry pick from team GGG. Brook is still a big welterweight, but not a Jr. Middle or MW. Some talk like it will be no problem fighting at 160 for the first time. Its shocking (not) what people will do for money. Like the Canelo/Khan fight, I hope the cherry pick backfires. It makes no difference who pursued who. Lara is a much more well known name worldwide than Brook. Brook has one win of note, out of 36, and it was controversial. It IS much like the Khan/Canelo fight. Absolutely no career damaging risk involved for Brook.Larrylefthook wrote:Not at all should GGG be treated the same as Canelo, Canelo's team pursued Khan even though every middleweight would fight Canelo while GGG's team have chased Canelo, BJS and got messed about by the Eubank's, they got offered the Brook fight they didn't chase him, also GGG wants to fight 3/4 times a year he cant waste time This is TOTALLY different.lefty wrote:If we're being objective Golovkin should probably get the same criticism for fighting a 147'er that Canelo got for fighting Khan. I think it will be a fun fight though.
All that said I will look forward to it happening. DannyMCR: you mentioned Brook is a better fight for GGG than any Jr. Middle or Middle? If he was he wouldn't be cutting weight like he has been.Holy crap that is up there with one of the dumbest things I have heard so far this year.
Porter landed fornicate all clean punches and was getting outboxed in most rounds.
Re: Golovkin vs Brook Sept 10
Don't really get the criticism about GGG's "Pick" to fight Brook. It was obviously a mutual decision. Both fighters agreed to fight. That's usually how it's done.
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You are an idiot.Badhusker wrote:
Lara is a much more well known name worldwide than Brook.