Harris then Gatti for Hatton?

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 23 Feb 2006, 13:54

Thanks John

Thought they might mention the Hatton opponent - guess that's still to come.

Hardhitters11 · Post by **Hardhitters11** » 23 Feb 2006, 13:57

Roman Greenburg would only have a chance against Larry Donald or maybe Oliver McCall the rest would murder him...and its by far guaranteed these two would beat him!

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 23 Feb 2006, 14:03

Hardhitters11 wrote:Roman Greenburg would only have a chance against Larry Donald or maybe Oliver McCall the rest would murder him...and its by far guaranteed these two would beat him!

I reckon he could give Sam Peter fits.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 23 Feb 2006, 14:04

MightyWarrior wrote:Thanks John

Thought they might mention the Hatton opponent - guess that's still to come.

Harris or Diaz

Harris is the favourite and I reckon (but dont know) that it will be Harris on HBO in May.

I reckon Harris is determined to prove the Maussa loss was an abberation and he could upset Hatton

Hardhitters11 · Post by **Hardhitters11** » 23 Feb 2006, 14:11

KO Atrist wrote:
Hardhitters11 wrote:Roman Greenburg would only have a chance against Larry Donald or maybe Oliver McCall the rest would murder him...and its by far guaranteed these two would beat him!
I reckon he could give Sam Peter fits.

Why mate?

For me Greenburg is a very poor heavy...yes he has relatively quick hands but he lacks pop.

HH

Cannibal · Post by **Cannibal** » 23 Feb 2006, 14:50

Sounds like it may be a very good bill viewing wise in May with 3 genuine world title fights involving British fighters all on the same night, how often can you say that?

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 23 Feb 2006, 16:58

Hardhitters11 wrote:
KO Atrist wrote:
Hardhitters11 wrote:Roman Greenburg would only have a chance against Larry Donald or maybe Oliver McCall the rest would murder him...and its by far guaranteed these two would beat him!
I reckon he could give Sam Peter fits.
Why mate?

For me Greenburg is a very poor heavy...yes he has relatively quick hands but he lacks pop.

HH

Greenberg has excellent handspeed, footwork and reflexes. He has a good hard jab.

He's not a KO artist but he hits hard enough to gain respect.

Peter, on the other hand is ox strong, and a murderous puncher..... if he can hit you.

If he cant he is as slow as ketchup, clumsy as hell, and a poor, yes poor finisher. He KO's with one shot.

Look at the guys who have gone the distance with Peter, some are good boxers others not so good.

Peter could KO Greenberg with one shot, but I doubt he would get near him.

Greenberg would IMO would out point him winning every round

glahn · Post by **glahn** » 23 Feb 2006, 17:08

Harris is a very high risk and low reward fight for Hatton to take. I can only see him taking it if there are no other credible options left. Harris is undoubtedly better than his performance against Maussa, and could have the style to give Hatton all kinds of problems.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 24 Feb 2006, 04:33

Harris never wanted to fight Hatton. He kept turning down money to fight him, from what I heard. Vivian embodied the fake title holder. He came by a vacant, or a regular championship while Tszyu was injured. Then he got lucky vs Urkal in Germany. Then he trounced the guy. Then turned down more big fights. Then believed the BS hype that he was the next Mike McCallum. Then got totally embarrassed by a man that Cotto dissected (Maussa) when MC looked half asleep.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 24 Feb 2006, 05:07

KO Atrist wrote:
If he cant he is as slow as ketchup,

Slightly off-topic I know, but last weekend I was taught that if you hit the '57' on the neck of a bottle of Heinz ketchup then it flows quite smoothly.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 24 Feb 2006, 05:14

Vivian Harris is a pretty good opponent for Hatton, certainly no pushover. Something was badly wrong against Maussa (for Harris).

I think Greenberg is ok and probably the UK's best Heavyweight (in my opinion of course).

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 24 Feb 2006, 05:55

viciousmaussa wrote:Harris never wanted to fight Hatton. He kept turning down money to fight him, from what I heard. Vivian embodied the fake title holder. He came by a vacant, or a super championship while Tszyu was injured. Then he got lucky vs Urkal in Germany. Then he trounced the guy. Then turned down more big fights. Then believed the BS hype that he was the next Mike McCallum. Then got totally embarrassed by a man that Cotto dissected (Maussa) when MC looked half asleep.

Harris is a twat quite frankly. He's screwed his own career up by constantly wrangling with his promoters about money, despite the fact that he was a totaly non-entity as far as the paying public were concerned. Main events got sick of him and were glad to release him from his contract from what I heard. Manny advised him not to take the Hatton fight as he felt it was a bad fight for him.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 24 Feb 2006, 09:35

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:Harris never wanted to fight Hatton. He kept turning down money to fight him, from what I heard. Vivian embodied the fake title holder. He came by a vacant, or a super championship while Tszyu was injured. Then he got lucky vs Urkal in Germany. Then he trounced the guy. Then turned down more big fights. Then believed the BS hype that he was the next Mike McCallum. Then got totally embarrassed by a man that Cotto dissected (Maussa) when MC looked half asleep.
Harris is a twat quite frankly. He's screwed his own career up by constantly wrangling with his promoters about money, despite the fact that he was a totaly non-entity as far as the paying public were concerned. Main events got sick of him and were glad to release him from his contract from what I heard. Manny advised him not to take the Hatton fight as he felt it was a bad fight for him.

Harris would have made less than 100k from the 750k he was getting beause of his promotional/management contract. He also wanted more than Hatton given he was the belt holder.

I don't think Harris was scared of fighting Hatton he just knew it was a hard fight and wanted to at last get a good payday. I think he was hoping Hatton would take the mandatory 25% position. Neither fighter wanted the fight on small change - Ricky still could have forced the match but removed himself from the WBA rankings.

Hes beat Ukral twice, Hurtado - 2 of tyszus better wins and faster than tyuzu and beat Mbaiye

Harris-Hatton could be fight of the year candidate imo.

BTW overdosing on the ECA stack would give similar symptons to those Wlad/Harris had in their recent losses.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 24 Feb 2006, 10:02

ECA stack? What the cuntok is that?

I am talking about Harris' career PRIOR to the Hatton fight. He continually pissed his promotional company about, which is why he was relatively inactive, every time they lined up a fight, he said he wanted more money.

The Hatton fight didn't happen on Manny's advice, Steward (not the most reliable of sources admittedly), said so himself in a number of interviews.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 24 Feb 2006, 10:28

ECA - ephedrine caffiene asperin - diet pills, take a bit and it speeds u up a bit, take too much and ur heart will be speeding at 1000 notches and you'll feel like collapsing after a round. I get the stuff in powders and I overdosed my heart was popping out my chest all night - no sleep.

Who did Harris turn down pre-Hatton negotiations?I remember PBF and Cotto pulled out of fights but I think that was risk reward - PBF pretended to not know who Harris was

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 24 Feb 2006, 10:35

Weirdly, Steward says he signed Harris without even realising he was a WBA champion. Understandable by most standards I guess, seeing as he was a non-super champion or whatever the hell they call it.

Think Harris is now back with former world class lightwelter Lennox Blackmore as trainer. Could be a good thing..

Papers today are saying Harris looks favorite to get the Connecticut job - And hopefully it's not another one of those lightweights that Rick loves to snack on.