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[tobyh5]

I thought it was pseudoephedrine in 88?

He was cleared of that by the committee by a vote, after he claimed it was in a supplement.

Cleared on a vote of 11-10. He claimed that as you said. How many people do you know who do not claim similar? Has anyone ever just admitted usage?

[jamesmcdonnell]

Psedudoephedrine is a lot more plausible to take by accident than Nandralone, which is an artificial hormone.

[tobyh5]

Anyway, this is copy and pasted as I did not know the exact way it could enhance sports performance, but it says - these effects include increased muscle contractility, increased blood flow to skeletal muscles, increased glycogenesis, increased central nervous activation and heart rate, as well as decreased time to fatigue

[jamesmcdonnell]

I thought it was pseudoephedrine in 88?

He was cleared of that by the committee by a vote, after he claimed it was in a supplement.

Cleared on a vote of 11-10. He claimed that as you said. How many people do you know who do not claim similar? Has anyone ever just admitted usage?

Hahaha, of course not!

[jamesmcdonnell]

Anyway, this is copy and pasted as I did not know the exact way it could enhance sports performance, but it says - these effects include increased muscle contractility, increased blood flow to skeletal muscles, increased glycogenesis, increased central nervous activation and heart rate, as well as decreased time to fatigue

My mate took a bunch of ephedrine tablets once, eff me, he could have run to Glasgow and back, he was absolutely off his chops, danced for about 12 hours that night he did.

[magwitch]

Anyway, this is copy and pasted as I did not know the exact way it could enhance sports performance, but it says - these effects include increased muscle contractility, increased blood flow to skeletal muscles, increased glycogenesis, increased central nervous activation and heart rate, as well as decreased time to fatigue

My mate took a bunch of ephedrine tablets once, eff me, he could have run to Glasgow and back, he was absolutely off his chops, danced for about 12 hours that night he did.

Your mate must have had some sore legs the next day, did he?

[jamesmcdonnell]

Anyway, this is copy and pasted as I did not know the exact way it could enhance sports performance, but it says - these effects include increased muscle contractility, increased blood flow to skeletal muscles, increased glycogenesis, increased central nervous activation and heart rate, as well as decreased time to fatigue

My mate took a bunch of ephedrine tablets once, eff me, he could have run to Glasgow and back, he was absolutely off his chops, danced for about 12 hours that night he did.

Your mate must have had some sore legs the next day, did he?

Don't know mate, wore a hole in the ground and I never saw him again.

[Counter-puncher]

I thought it was pseudoephedrine in 88?

He was cleared of that by the committee by a vote, after he claimed it was in a supplement.

Cleared on a vote of 11-10. He claimed that as you said. How many people do you know who do not claim similar? Has anyone ever just admitted usage?

So he was done for nandrolone in 88 too? Or just ephedrine?

[jamesmcdonnell]

He was cleared of that by the committee by a vote, after he claimed it was in a supplement.

Cleared on a vote of 11-10. He claimed that as you said. How many people do you know who do not claim similar? Has anyone ever just admitted usage?

So he was done for nandrolone in 88 too? Or just ephedrine?

Ephedrine, or rather pseudoepherdrine, the synthetic version. Pseudoephedrine is a simple stimulant, and was found in supplements in small quantities at that time, sometimes due to tainting, however, Nandralone is another matter entirely, the levels it was in his blood is not likely to be obtained by accident and it's a far more powerful substance as it is one of a group that mimic testosterone, or is it HGH - I think it's an anabolic.

[Counter-puncher]

I thought it was pseudoephedrine in 88?

You thought right. And you are aware of the performance enhancing qualities of it I assume seeing as you immediately knew what it was and also how to spell it correctly, just from the top of your head 28 years later

Oh ok its just you didn't mention ephedrine and said the 99 and 88 cases were near identical, I wasn't being obtuse I just thought you were saying he was done for nandrolone in 88 too

[Counter-puncher]

Anyway, this is copy and pasted as I did not know the exact way it could enhance sports performance, but it says - these effects include increased muscle contractility, increased blood flow to skeletal muscles, increased glycogenesis, increased central nervous activation and heart rate, as well as decreased time to fatigue

I always assumed it was its qualities as a stimulant that were the ummm added value it gave

[tobyh5]

I thought it was pseudoephedrine in 88?

You thought right. And you are aware of the performance enhancing qualities of it I assume seeing as you immediately knew what it was and also how to spell it correctly, just from the top of your head 28 years later

Oh ok its just you didn't mention ephedrine and said the 99 and 88 cases were near identical, I wasn't being obtuse I just thought you were saying he was done for nandrolone in 88 too

That is nearly identical to what he said in 88 and got away with it by one single vote out of 21 cast. Only one real conclusion can be drawn IMO

This is what I said. I did not say the cases were the same. I said that what he said was nearly identical

[magwitch]

To add to my post above - I just did some basic searching for info on google and his drug test failure in 1999 is quite interesting as nearly identical to the one he got away with in 1988

"In 1999, Christie was found guilty of using the performance-enhancing drug nandrolone following a doping test after an indoor meet in Germany. He was found to have more than 100 times normal levels of the metabolites of nandrolone in his urine. Various explanations were offered to explain the results, including eating avocado, or using nutritional supplements.[18][19][20]"

That is nearly identical to what he said in 88 and got away with it by one single vote out of 21 cast. Only one real conclusion can be drawn IMO

Avocadoes/ avocados, are a superfood?

[jamesmcdonnell]

To add to my post above - I just did some basic searching for info on google and his drug test failure in 1999 is quite interesting as nearly identical to the one he got away with in 1988

"In 1999, Christie was found guilty of using the performance-enhancing drug nandrolone following a doping test after an indoor meet in Germany. He was found to have more than 100 times normal levels of the metabolites of nandrolone in his urine. Various explanations were offered to explain the results, including eating avocado, or using nutritional supplements.[18][19][20]"

That is nearly identical to what he said in 88 and got away with it by one single vote out of 21 cast. Only one real conclusion can be drawn IMO

Avocadoes/ avocados, are a superfood?

They are indeed, make your cock huge too, well, I'm guessing, been eating one a day since childhood and I'm hung like a baby whale.

[magwitch]

Thanks for bringing research to the table Tobyh....I didn’t know about Christie’s ’88 past.
So I wonder how might the lab results of Johnson, Lewis and Christie...and anyone else for that matter, have looked. Different pick n mixes, or tell tale similarities.

I always thought the American in the ’92 Final looked hyper and pretty “pumped”. Leeroy Burrell I think his name was.....didn’t matter as I think he ended up 5th.
What was the bloke called from St. Kitts and Nevis? Kim someone? I think he was in elite races into his 41st year! Then you had Fredericks of Namibia....a lot of popular guys.

[magwitch]

To add to my post above - I just did some basic searching for info on google and his drug test failure in 1999 is quite interesting as nearly identical to the one he got away with in 1988

"In 1999, Christie was found guilty of using the performance-enhancing drug nandrolone following a doping test after an indoor meet in Germany. He was found to have more than 100 times normal levels of the metabolites of nandrolone in his urine. Various explanations were offered to explain the results, including eating avocado, or using nutritional supplements.[18][19][20]"

That is nearly identical to what he said in 88 and got away with it by one single vote out of 21 cast. Only one real conclusion can be drawn IMO

Avocadoes/ avocados, are a superfood?

They are indeed, make your cock huge too, well, I'm guessing, been eating one a day since childhood and I'm hung like a baby whale.

I was going to say that I don’t think Christie was on the anabolics, not after what I’ve heard they do to your cock.

[magwitch]

You wouldn’t want to be collecting the baton from him.

[jamesmcdonnell]

You wouldn’t want to be collecting the baton from him.

Not in a darkened room anyway.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Thanks for bringing research to the table Tobyh....I didn’t know about Christie’s ’88 past.
So I wonder how might the lab results of Johnson, Lewis and Christie...and anyone else for that matter, have looked. Different pick n mixes, or tell tale similarities.

I always thought the American in the ’92 Final looked hyper and pretty “pumped”. Leeroy Burrell I think his name was.....didn’t matter as I think he ended up 5th.
What was the bloke called from St. Kitts and Nevis? Kim someone? I think he was in elite races into his 41st year! Then you had Fredericks of Namibia....a lot of popular guys.

Kim Collins.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Remember Dwain chambers, think he was done for Nandralone as well I think, I remember Michael Johnson commenting on how huge he'd become in the space of a season - but the funny think is, he got slower. Guess he'd been hitting the weights hard.

A lot of these artificial hormones aid recovery time which allows athletes to train harder with less rest, but it's no gurantee of improvement.

[manchester-mexican]

All cheating b******s, end of story

[Tomasino]

Magwitch should be tested for whatever PEDs trolls take to become elite.

I don't know if that's morally acceptable. I mean, a more well rounded person would not have it. A driven, results focused, trained winner would never cheat at anything. Never. I know because I don't want it to be true.

You don‘t know if Christie was a drugs cheat during his lengthy spell as a champion athlete. I don’t either. My choice, smartarse, is to be of the opinion he wasn’t. You can choose to think anything you like also.

Just stop trying to argue points from positions of utter ignorance

[coneye]

Its amazing how they seem to find one boxer is on something , but others who are obviously on something don't get found out . Personaly i've suspected Billy Joe is on the Mars Bars for a while now .. Seems to me his face is getting fatter and fatter , everytime he does a u tube interview with Kugan

[MattCoke]

Remember Dwain chambers, think he was done for Nandralone as well I think, I remember Michael Johnson commenting on how huge he'd become in the space of a season - but the funny think is, he got slower. Guess he'd been hitting the weights hard.

A lot of these artificial hormones aid recovery time which allows athletes to train harder with less rest, but it's no gurantee of improvement.

Where have you got this made up information from, what an utter load of shite. When Chambers was on the peds he set a PB of 9.87secs which was later erased because of his admittance to being on peds, in the same race Tim Montgomery set a new World Record of 9.78, Montgomery was also on peds at the time. Also Chambers was not done for nandrolone, he was done for THG.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Remember Dwain chambers, think he was done for Nandralone as well I think, I remember Michael Johnson commenting on how huge he'd become in the space of a season - but the funny think is, he got slower. Guess he'd been hitting the weights hard.

A lot of these artificial hormones aid recovery time which allows athletes to train harder with less rest, but it's no gurantee of improvement.

Where have you got this made up information from, what an utter load of shite. When Chambers was on the peds he set a PB of 9.87secs which was later erased because of his admittance to being on peds, in the same race Tim Montgomery set a new World Record of 9.78, Montgomery was also on peds at the time. Also Chambers was not done for nandrolone, he was done for THG.

From memory, which is unreliable obviously.