GGG Vs BROOK : My take on the fight

[Quix]

Realistically, this fight was always going to be a tall order for Kell Brook, we all knew that, but we hoped that he would take advantage of the slim chance he had. It was not to be and i think Dominic Ingle made the right decision to pull Kell out of the fight in that 5th round. Golovkin was starting to load up and with an injury like Kell had, things could have gotten serious. Obviously, the eye injury played a part in how Kell started to decline towards the end of the fourth round and into the fifth and affected his performance. However, that injury as far as i can tell was inflicted by Golovkin, not through a clash of heads, but by his punching power. So with that in mind, i don't think you can come from the angle that Kell did, when he said " i was just settling in to the fight ", making out that if the eye injury hadn't come about, he would have been very much in the fight and gone on to cause Golovkin some trouble in the later rounds. Kell was game, had a go, but he looked more like a fighter who was trying to survive, than a fighter who was competing.

Regardless of the injury, and in my opinion that was caused by the punching strength of Golovkin, Brook was being pushed back, with tripe G being able to walk forward and dictate the fight. Yes, Kell had some successes. He found angles that maybe Golovkin hadn't had to deal with before. He backed up Golovkin at times and put some nice combinations together, but overall, Golovkin was walking towards him the whole time, slowly cutting off the ring as the rounds went by. In a similar vein to Khan vs Canelo, Khan's best work came in the early rounds when he was fresh. That's to be expected and it was the case with Kell. After all, he is a world champion, a fit and strong fighter with some skills, so i wasn't expecting him to roll over after a few rounds. As the rounds went on, Kell went from a fighter who looked strong and game, to one that was realising the effect of Golovkin's power and strength. He started to retreat and was getting caught a lot, no doubt aided by a concern for his eye and the double vision he was apparently getting from round two.

I think if the fight had gone on, Kell would have been worn down and stopped. He was taking a lot of shots through out the fight and the cumulative affect of those punches wold have told as the fight went on. Weighing the same as another fighter, is not the same as being as strong or as powerful. In the end, the strength and power of Golovkin was the deciding factor. For someone to give Triple G a competitive fight, you have to have a fighter who is a natural middleweight, with skills and speed, but also enough power to make Golovkin respect his opponents power. Golovkin measured Brooks power very early on and decided he didn't really have any, so decided to walk forward throwing bombs. There was no real respect or concern for whatever power Brook had, meaning triple G didn't stand off and consequently there was little room for Brook to move about the ring. Brook will be a force at 154lbs i think, but this time, reality smashed the dream, which was always going to be a long shot, regardless of the eventual eye injury that forced the stoppage.

On a final note, i do think this fight happened because of an issue that seems to be apparent in modern day boxing. No one is fighting the people they should be fighting. It seems that promoters want an alphabet title. Then to defend that title against inferior opponents, until the figures are large enough to compensate for any loss of a title against any truly world class fighters. So in this instance, Khan should not be fighting Canelo, he should be fighting Brook and Golovkin shouldn't be fighting Brook, he should be fighting Canelo, but these obvious match ups aren't made. So boxing politics comes to the fore and the result of that is miss matches taking place, that are hyped by the tv companies as being mega fighting events. The boxing public aren't stupid and with what happened last night and with the Khan Vs Canelo fight, the public's appetite for these kinds of fights have been almost saturated. Yes the sport is about money, but that ultimately comes from giving the paying public realistic fights they actually want to see.

Thoughts ?

[littlepug]

Yeah these novelty matches are getting a bit tiresome, kell never looked like he believed he could win and whenever he let his hands go it seemed to be out of desperation just doing enough to ensure a pat on the back for "having a go", easy nights work for GGG who just coasted through the contest doing just enough to keep brook in his place, don't know how many more times the casuals will fall for this type of contest but I for one have had enough of it, its time to start making the serious matchups that are out there for Boxing's sake.

[davie]

So with that in mind, i don't think you can come from the angle that Kell did, when he said " i was just settling in to the fight ", making out that if the eye injury hadn't come about, he would have been very much in the fight and gone on to cause Golovkin some trouble in the later round

I've thought about this before. Many fighter say "if it hadn't been for the (legitmate boxing inflicted) injury, I'd have won"
It's like saying " If it hadn't been for being sparked unconscious with that monster right hand I'd have smashed him" or "if he hadn't landed more punches in every round, i'd have been ahead on the scorecards"

The injury was inflicted by being punched hard by your opponent, that's what you do to win boxing contests.

That aside, great effort from Brook and brave from him to keep trying but the injury and stoppage ultimately just prevented him eventually getting flattened.

[DannyMCR]

So with that in mind, i don't think you can come from the angle that Kell did, when he said " i was just settling in to the fight ", making out that if the eye injury hadn't come about, he would have been very much in the fight and gone on to cause Golovkin some trouble in the later round

I've thought about this before. Many fighter say "if it hadn't been for the (legitmate boxing inflicted) injury, I'd have won"
It's like saying " If it hadn't been for being sparked unconscious with that monster right hand I'd have smashed him" or "if he hadn't landed more punches in every round, i'd have been ahead on the scorecards"

The injury was inflicted by being punched hard by your opponent, that's what you do to win boxing contests.

That aside, great effort from Brook and brave from him to keep trying but the injury and stoppage ultimately just prevented him eventually getting flattened.

Spot on this mate.

[Quix]

Yeah these novelty matches are getting a bit tiresome, kell never looked like he believed he could win and whenever he let his hands go it seemed to be out of desperation just doing enough to ensure a pat on the back for "having a go", easy nights work for GGG who just coasted through the contest doing just enough to keep brook in his place, don't know how many more times the casuals will fall for this type of contest but I for one have had enough of it, its time to start making the serious matchups that are out there for Boxing's sake.

Totally agree mate. Its no good promoting a fight and making out its a 60 - 40 fight, when in reality its a 90 - 10 !! The TV hype machine does a good job of selling a fight, but if the end product is an obvious miss match, then that will turn punters away. Certain hall of fame fighters like a Leonard, a Mayweather, a Hopkins, Jones Jr can and did pull off wins in these types of scenarios, but they were A plus fighters, not just good one's as is the case with the likes of Kell Brook. Less hype and realistic match ups is needed big time.

[Quix]

So with that in mind, i don't think you can come from the angle that Kell did, when he said " i was just settling in to the fight ", making out that if the eye injury hadn't come about, he would have been very much in the fight and gone on to cause Golovkin some trouble in the later round

I've thought about this before. Many fighter say "if it hadn't been for the (legitmate boxing inflicted) injury, I'd have won"
It's like saying " If it hadn't been for being sparked unconscious with that monster right hand I'd have smashed him" or "if he hadn't landed more punches in every round, i'd have been ahead on the scorecards"

The injury was inflicted by being punched hard by your opponent, that's what you do to win boxing contests.

That aside, great effort from Brook and brave from him to keep trying but the injury and stoppage ultimately just prevented him eventually getting flattened.

Totally agree. Fighters have a choice. They either come out with the truth, ie " i was getting outclassed and out muscled in there " or they come out with an excuse " I thought i was holding my own " I agree that if the fight had of gone on, Brook would have taken a lot of punishment and been stopped around the 7th or 8th rounds anyway, Triple G just had way too much strength and power for Kell.

[pablothunder]

Brook had his successes, he's a good level fighter and he was sure to land at least some some decent punches. But, as sharp as some of them were, they weren't turning anything around; Golovkin turned out a sub-par performance, got involved in a fight which was messier than it had to be, took whatever was landed and still basically beat the crap out of Brook.
Respect to Brook though, he put it on the line and in my eyes keeps his name and rep up there.

[Syntax Error]

Realistically, this fight was always going to be a tall order for Kell Brook, we all knew that, but we hoped that he would take advantage of the slim chance he had. It was not to be and i think Dominic Ingle made the right decision to pull Kell out of the fight in that 5th round. Golovkin was starting to load up and with an injury like Kell had, things could have gotten serious. Obviously, the eye injury played a part in how Kell started to decline towards the end of the fourth round and into the fifth and affected his performance. However, that injury as far as i can tell was inflicted by Golovkin, not through a clash of heads, but by his punching power. So with that in mind, i don't think you can come from the angle that Kell did, when he said " i was just settling in to the fight ", making out that if the eye injury hadn't come about, he would have been very much in the fight and gone on to cause Golovkin some trouble in the later rounds. Kell was game, had a go, but he looked more like a fighter who was trying to survive, than a fighter who was competing.

Regardless of the injury, and in my opinion that was caused by the punching strength of Golovkin, Brook was being pushed back, with tripe G being able to walk forward and dictate the fight. Yes, Kell had some successes. He found angles that maybe Golovkin hadn't had to deal with before. He backed up Golovkin at times and put some nice combinations together, but overall, Golovkin was walking towards him the whole time, slowly cutting off the ring as the rounds went by. In a similar vein to Khan vs Canelo, Khan's best work came in the early rounds when he was fresh. That's to be expected and it was the case with Kell. After all, he is a world champion, a fit and strong fighter with some skills, so i wasn't expecting him to roll over after a few rounds. As the rounds went on, Kell went from a fighter who looked strong and game, to one that was realising the effect of Golovkin's power and strength. He started to retreat and was getting caught a lot, no doubt aided by a concern for his eye and the double vision he was apparently getting from round two.

I think if the fight had gone on, Kell would have been worn down and stopped. He was taking a lot of shots through out the fight and the cumulative affect of those punches wold have told as the fight went on. Weighing the same as another fighter, is not the same as being as strong or as powerful. In the end, the strength and power of Golovkin was the deciding factor. For someone to give Triple G a competitive fight, you have to have a fighter who is a natural middleweight, with skills and speed, but also enough power to make Golovkin respect his opponents power. Golovkin measured Brooks power very early on and decided he didn't really have any, so decided to walk forward throwing bombs. There was no real respect or concern for whatever power Brook had, meaning triple G didn't stand off and consequently there was little room for Brook to move about the ring. Brook will be a force at 154lbs i think, but this time, reality smashed the dream, which was always going to be a long shot, regardless of the eventual eye injury that forced the stoppage.

On a final note, i do think this fight happened because of an issue that seems to be apparent in modern day boxing. No one is fighting the people they should be fighting. It seems that promoters want an alphabet title. Then to defend that title against inferior opponents, until the figures are large enough to compensate for any loss of a title against any truly world class fighters. So in this instance, Khan should not be fighting Canelo, he should be fighting Brook and Golovkin shouldn't be fighting Brook, he should be fighting Canelo, but these obvious match ups aren't made. So boxing politics comes to the fore and the result of that is miss matches taking place, that are hyped by the tv companies as being mega fighting events. The boxing public aren't stupid and with what happened last night and with the Khan Vs Canelo fight, the public's appetite for these kinds of fights have been almost saturated. Yes the sport is about money, but that ultimately comes from giving the paying public realistic fights they actually want to see.

Thoughts ?

Quality summary.

I can't disagree with a word you've said.

It's shame that Khan & Brook had to learn the hard way, but hopefully neither will suffer in the long term.

Lets hope some lessons are learned from these two mismatches.

As brave as both men were, neither belonged in the ring with their more celebrated opponents.

[Quix]

Realistically, this fight was always going to be a tall order for Kell Brook, we all knew that, but we hoped that he would take advantage of the slim chance he had. It was not to be and i think Dominic Ingle made the right decision to pull Kell out of the fight in that 5th round. Golovkin was starting to load up and with an injury like Kell had, things could have gotten serious. Obviously, the eye injury played a part in how Kell started to decline towards the end of the fourth round and into the fifth and affected his performance. However, that injury as far as i can tell was inflicted by Golovkin, not through a clash of heads, but by his punching power. So with that in mind, i don't think you can come from the angle that Kell did, when he said " i was just settling in to the fight ", making out that if the eye injury hadn't come about, he would have been very much in the fight and gone on to cause Golovkin some trouble in the later rounds. Kell was game, had a go, but he looked more like a fighter who was trying to survive, than a fighter who was competing.

Regardless of the injury, and in my opinion that was caused by the punching strength of Golovkin, Brook was being pushed back, with tripe G being able to walk forward and dictate the fight. Yes, Kell had some successes. He found angles that maybe Golovkin hadn't had to deal with before. He backed up Golovkin at times and put some nice combinations together, but overall, Golovkin was walking towards him the whole time, slowly cutting off the ring as the rounds went by. In a similar vein to Khan vs Canelo, Khan's best work came in the early rounds when he was fresh. That's to be expected and it was the case with Kell. After all, he is a world champion, a fit and strong fighter with some skills, so i wasn't expecting him to roll over after a few rounds. As the rounds went on, Kell went from a fighter who looked strong and game, to one that was realising the effect of Golovkin's power and strength. He started to retreat and was getting caught a lot, no doubt aided by a concern for his eye and the double vision he was apparently getting from round two.

I think if the fight had gone on, Kell would have been worn down and stopped. He was taking a lot of shots through out the fight and the cumulative affect of those punches wold have told as the fight went on. Weighing the same as another fighter, is not the same as being as strong or as powerful. In the end, the strength and power of Golovkin was the deciding factor. For someone to give Triple G a competitive fight, you have to have a fighter who is a natural middleweight, with skills and speed, but also enough power to make Golovkin respect his opponents power. Golovkin measured Brooks power very early on and decided he didn't really have any, so decided to walk forward throwing bombs. There was no real respect or concern for whatever power Brook had, meaning triple G didn't stand off and consequently there was little room for Brook to move about the ring. Brook will be a force at 154lbs i think, but this time, reality smashed the dream, which was always going to be a long shot, regardless of the eventual eye injury that forced the stoppage.

On a final note, i do think this fight happened because of an issue that seems to be apparent in modern day boxing. No one is fighting the people they should be fighting. It seems that promoters want an alphabet title. Then to defend that title against inferior opponents, until the figures are large enough to compensate for any loss of a title against any truly world class fighters. So in this instance, Khan should not be fighting Canelo, he should be fighting Brook and Golovkin shouldn't be fighting Brook, he should be fighting Canelo, but these obvious match ups aren't made. So boxing politics comes to the fore and the result of that is miss matches taking place, that are hyped by the tv companies as being mega fighting events. The boxing public aren't stupid and with what happened last night and with the Khan Vs Canelo fight, the public's appetite for these kinds of fights have been almost saturated. Yes the sport is about money, but that ultimately comes from giving the paying public realistic fights they actually want to see.

Thoughts ?

Quality summary.

I can't disagree with a word you've said.

It's shame that Khan & Brook had to learn the hard way, but hopefully neither with suffer in the long term.

Lets hope some lessons are learned from these two mismatches.

As brave as both men were, neither belonged in the ring with their more celebrated opponents.

Thanks mate ☺

Like i said earlier, you can only promote these type of fights as " mega fights " if it actually resembles a relatively close match up. As it was, this fight and the Khan - Canelo were nothing more than hyped up miss matches, sold as an elite boxing event. I personally don't think we will see these kind of match ups again for a long time. Iys needs to be genuine competition, not contrived.

[Quix]

Brook had his successes, he's a good level fighter and he was sure to land at least some some decent punches. But, as sharp as some of them were, they weren't turning anything around; Golovkin turned out a sub-par performance, got involved in a fight which was messier than it had to be, took whatever was landed and still basically beat the crap out of Brook.
Respect to Brook though, he put it on the line and in my eyes keeps his name and rep up there.

I agree. I don't think this defeat has tarnished Brook, it's perhaps given wide a wider audience. I think Golovkin could have taken more time and therefore looked a little better, but he saw that Brook was struggling and so went for a relatively quick win. I think GGG partly looked a little clumsy at times, because Brook was making life more awkward than Golovkin is used to.

[Ian1973]

Brook had his successes, he's a good level fighter and he was sure to land at least some some decent punches. But, as sharp as some of them were, they weren't turning anything around; Golovkin turned out a sub-par performance, got involved in a fight which was messier than it had to be, took whatever was landed and still basically beat the crap out of Brook.
Respect to Brook though, he put it on the line and in my eyes keeps his name and rep up there.

I agree. I don't think this defeat has tarnished Brook, it's perhaps given wide a wider audience. I think Golovkin could have taken more time and therefore looked a little better, but he saw that Brook was struggling and so went for a relatively quick win. I think GGG partly looked a little clumsy at times, because Brook was making life more awkward than Golovkin is used to.

I think Golovkin knew that he could afford to just barge forward because Brook couldn't hurt him and eventually he'd destroy Kell. It was a noticeably different approach to the Lemieux fight (for example).

[Stuarty]

So with that in mind, i don't think you can come from the angle that Kell did, when he said " i was just settling in to the fight ", making out that if the eye injury hadn't come about, he would have been very much in the fight and gone on to cause Golovkin some trouble in the later round

I've thought about this before. Many fighter say "if it hadn't been for the (legitmate boxing inflicted) injury, I'd have won"
It's like saying " If it hadn't been for being sparked unconscious with that monster right hand I'd have smashed him" or "if he hadn't landed more punches in every round, i'd have been ahead on the scorecards"

The injury was inflicted by being punched hard by your opponent, that's what you do to win boxing contests.

That aside, great effort from Brook and brave from him to keep trying but the injury and stoppage ultimately just prevented him eventually getting flattened.

Good point. This is how I feel about Lewis v Klitschko.

[Shambles]

Yeah these novelty matches are getting a bit tiresome, kell never looked like he believed he could win and whenever he let his hands go it seemed to be out of desperation just doing enough to ensure a pat on the back for "having a go", easy nights work for GGG who just coasted through the contest doing just enough to keep brook in his place, don't know how many more times the casuals will fall for this type of contest but I for one have had enough of it, its time to start making the serious matchups that are out there for Boxing's sake.

I think Kell looked like he thought he could win, so I have to disagree with you there mate. He certainly wasn't there for a pat on the back - I actually think that's a really poor comment.

I also don't think Golovkin was coasting, he was in a fairly competitive scrap, just too strong and hits too hard for Kell.

I agree that there's been too much nonsense going on with regards to people not fighting who they should be, but the rest of your post is crap.

[Quix]

Yeah these novelty matches are getting a bit tiresome, kell never looked like he believed he could win and whenever he let his hands go it seemed to be out of desperation just doing enough to ensure a pat on the back for "having a go", easy nights work for GGG who just coasted through the contest doing just enough to keep brook in his place, don't know how many more times the casuals will fall for this type of contest but I for one have had enough of it, its time to start making the serious matchups that are out there for Boxing's sake.

I think Kell looked like he thought he could win, so I have to disagree with you there mate. He certainly wasn't there for a pat on the back - I actually think that's a really poor comment.

I also don't think Golovkin was coasting, he was in a fairly competitive scrap, just too strong and hits too hard for Kell.

I agree that there's been too much nonsense going on with regards to people not fighting who they should be, but the rest of your post is crap.

People see fights in different ways. I think Kell thought he could win and he was confident and looked confident. As you say, GGG was just too powerful and that plus the injury put Kell on the back foot. Initially i think he stood his ground and put up some resistance, but as the fight wore on, i think he was concerned with the eye and also was starting to feel the affect of those heavy punches from GGG. I think Kells shot's at the start of yhe fight were meaningfull, but by the end of the fight they were simply a means to try and keep GGG off him and create some distance.

[littlepug]

Yeah these novelty matches are getting a bit tiresome, kell never looked like he believed he could win and whenever he let his hands go it seemed to be out of desperation just doing enough to ensure a pat on the back for "having a go", easy nights work for GGG who just coasted through the contest doing just enough to keep brook in his place, don't know how many more times the casuals will fall for this type of contest but I for one have had enough of it, its time to start making the serious matchups that are out there for Boxing's sake.

I think Kell looked like he thought he could win, so I have to disagree with you there mate. He certainly wasn't there for a pat on the back - I actually think that's a really poor comment.

I also don't think Golovkin was coasting, he was in a fairly competitive scrap, just too strong and hits too hard for Kell.

I agree that there's been too much nonsense going on with regards to people not fighting who they should be, but the rest of your post is crap.

It was all about the payday as far as I'm concerned, I can't believe anybody in their right mind thought brook could pull this off and yes that includes kell himself, they have enough experience in the ingle camp to know this was a suicide mission especially since nothing in brooks previous form suggested he could be better 2 weight divisions higher against the divisions top operator, and the fact brook landed a few punches doesn't really mean anything because regardless of whether GGG won every round or not he was always in control from start to finish but probably looked more competitive than it was due to GGG not really going beyond 2nd gear, look I'm all for giving boxers praise for a sterling but losing effort but lets not get carried away as soon as brook was injured he made bloody sure that everybody knew about it, I'm sorry but I demand a bit more mental fortitude in top fighters so I'm not gonna start sucking brooks Dick just because he took a beating for a payday

[Quix]

Yeah these novelty matches are getting a bit tiresome, kell never looked like he believed he could win and whenever he let his hands go it seemed to be out of desperation just doing enough to ensure a pat on the back for "having a go", easy nights work for GGG who just coasted through the contest doing just enough to keep brook in his place, don't know how many more times the casuals will fall for this type of contest but I for one have had enough of it, its time to start making the serious matchups that are out there for Boxing's sake.

I think Kell looked like he thought he could win, so I have to disagree with you there mate. He certainly wasn't there for a pat on the back - I actually think that's a really poor comment.

I also don't think Golovkin was coasting, he was in a fairly competitive scrap, just too strong and hits too hard for Kell.

I agree that there's been too much nonsense going on with regards to people not fighting who they should be, but the rest of your post is crap.

It was all about the payday as far as I'm concerned, I can't believe anybody in their right mind thought brook could pull this off and yes that includes kell himself, they have enough experience in the ingle camp to know this was a suicide mission especially since nothing in brooks previous form suggested he could be better 2 weight divisions higher against the divisions top operator, and the fact brook landed a few punches doesn't really mean anything because regardless of whether GGG won every round or not he was always in control from start to finish but probably looked more competitive than it was due to GGG not really going beyond 2nd gear, look I'm all for giving boxers praise for a sterling but losing effort but lets not get carried away as soon as brook was injured he made bloody sure that everybody knew about it, I'm sorry but I demand a bit more mental fortitude in top fighters so I'm not gonna start sucking brooks Dick just because he took a beating for a payday

The payday was a huge factor and as someone mentioned earlier, i think there was almost a pre arranged agreement that Kell would be brought out of the fight if things got too heated. Kell didn't seem overly bothered that Dominic Ingle had thrown the towel in.

[Dixonian]

Yeah these novelty matches are getting a bit tiresome, kell never looked like he believed he could win and whenever he let his hands go it seemed to be out of desperation just doing enough to ensure a pat on the back for "having a go", easy nights work for GGG who just coasted through the contest doing just enough to keep brook in his place, don't know how many more times the casuals will fall for this type of contest but I for one have had enough of it, its time to start making the serious matchups that are out there for Boxing's sake.

I think Kell looked like he thought he could win, so I have to disagree with you there mate. He certainly wasn't there for a pat on the back - I actually think that's a really poor comment.

I also don't think Golovkin was coasting, he was in a fairly competitive scrap, just too strong and hits too hard for Kell.

I agree that there's been too much nonsense going on with regards to people not fighting who they should be, but the rest of your post is crap.

Yeah I agree Shambles, I thought Brook put up a good scrap and gave Golovkin his sternest test. He varied his work nicely as well. He had success with the jab and countering on the backfoot and then when Golovkin was threatening to get on top he backed him up with hard combos. I had it even going into the fifth.

[Bodyshot3]

Great summary Quix

Thinking ahead, I worry about what GGG tends to do fighters and what that might possibly entail for Kell.

Beyond the heavy duty stuff he delivers on the night - 'raining down bricks' as the journo Kevin Garside described it - there's also the fact that Gennady seems to leave lasting dents in terms of morale and what a fighter is able to do.

Matt Mackln looked like a guy who simply could not believe that he'd been dispatched so easily and Murray arguably paid an even heavier price for sticking it out with GGG. I don't think Geale has fully recovered and many other Golvokin opponents seem to gone into tick-over mode.

I hope that Ingle called it right last night with an eye to ensuring that Kell can come again; it was beginning to unravel badly for Kell and Dominic appeared to realise that the big gamble was not coming good, so accept the loss and come back to fight another day.

[tonyevs]

But the short version is - GGG just walked Brook down.

At no time did Brook look like he could do it; he landed the occasional shot/shots, but GGG always looked in total control.

Lots of times you hear the phrase of one boxer walking down another boxer ... how GGG did it it was painfully clear; he had no concern for anything Brook did, or could do ... he walked into him and just put it on him.

[Quix]

Great summary Quix

Thinking ahead, I worry about what GGG tends to do fighters and what that might possibly entail for Kell.

Beyond the heavy duty stuff he delivers on the night - 'raining down bricks' as the journo Kevin Garside described it - there's also the fact that Gennady seems to leave lasting dents in terms of morale and what a fighter is able to do.

Matt Mackln looked like a guy who simply could not believe that he'd been dispatched so easily and Murray arguably paid an even heavier price for sticking it out with GGG. I don't think Geale has fully recovered and many other Golvokin opponents seem to gone into tick-over mode.

I hope that Ingle called it right last night with an eye to ensuring that Kell can come again; it was beginning to unravel badly for Kell and Dominic appeared to realise that the big gamble was not coming good, so accept the loss and come back to fight another day.

Cheers mate ☺

I think that there would have been a pre arranged plan to pull Kell out, should GGG get really on top. As it hapenned the eye problem was enough to get Kell out of there in time before the inevitable onslaught happened. Maybe it affects fighters who were convinced of their own abilities and couldn't contemplate or see a defeat coming. Many a fighter has been wrecked after a los tgey themselves couldn't accept, despite evidence to the contrary from the wider boxing community.

[Quix]

But the short version is - GGG just walked Brook down.

At no time did Brook look like he could do it; he landed the occasional shot/shots, but GGG always looked in total control.

Lots of times you hear the phrase of one boxer walking down another boxer ... how GGG did it it was painfully clear; he had no concern for anything Brook did, or could do ... he walked into him and just put it on him.

True.

[crusader]

I just watched GGG's fight with Williie Monroe, and I honestly think he had about the same success as Brook landing shots. If you add huge cheers every time he lands something notable I'd bet that much of that fight would seem very similar to Brook-GGG. Incidentally, the punch stats were almost identical: 133-87 for the Munroe fight and 133-85 for Brook. I also think Martin Murray has just as good of a case for winning the first two rounds against GGG as Brook did winning any pair of rounds against Golovkin.

Brook fought about as well as he could IMO, but I think him fighting with a very vocal crowd behind him led to a bit of an exaggeration of how well he was doing. At the end of the day, he was busted up, broken down, and stopped in 4.5 rounds, and he wasn't ahead on the cards as some claimed.

[coneye]

It is what it is ,, and it was what it was,,, and it went excatly how it was suppossed to go according to 99% of boxing followers ,, a smaller man beefing up and putting on fat to meet a bigger man ,, then finding out he does'nt have the strenght or the power , to maake a dent ,, then the trainer saying fook that my lads had enough he's coming out , before he gets hurt , then the towel .. .....and it will all be worth it in the end ,, because everyones a winner

Brook got his big paayday and USA exposure

GGG got his big payday and becomes a bigger God

Hearn got his PPV show and made plenty of money .

And it sets it all up for the next big one ,, Berook --- Canelo ,, wich most will give Brook a 40% chance of winning so makes the fight massive .

Followed maybee if Brook loses by aa MASSIVE .. MONSTER fight in the UK between Brook and Khan ,,, one that will sell 85000 seats and surpass Big nose and carrot top

[davie]

So with that in mind, i don't think you can come from the angle that Kell did, when he said " i was just settling in to the fight ", making out that if the eye injury hadn't come about, he would have been very much in the fight and gone on to cause Golovkin some trouble in the later round

I've thought about this before. Many fighter say "if it hadn't been for the (legitmate boxing inflicted) injury, I'd have won"
It's like saying " If it hadn't been for being sparked unconscious with that monster right hand I'd have smashed him" or "if he hadn't landed more punches in every round, i'd have been ahead on the scorecards"

The injury was inflicted by being punched hard by your opponent, that's what you do to win boxing contests.

That aside, great effort from Brook and brave from him to keep trying but the injury and stoppage ultimately just prevented him eventually getting flattened.

Good point. This is how I feel about Lewis v Klitschko.

Well funnily enough, that fight was the first time I had that rant.

"Vitali was well ahead until they stopped it for cuts"

The cuts were caused by punches, just like Lewis's KO by Rahmans were and no one trys to call foul about that

[davie]

I just watched GGG's fight with Williie Monroe, and I honestly think he had about the same success as Brook landing shots. If you add huge cheers every time he lands something notable I'd bet that much of that fight would seem very similar to Brook-GGG. Incidentally, the punch stats were almost identical: 133-87 for the Munroe fight and 133-85 for Brook. I also think Martin Murray has just as good of a case for winning the first two rounds against GGG as Brook did winning any pair of rounds against Golovkin.

Brook fought about as well as he could IMO, but I think him fighting with a very vocal crowd behind him led to a bit of an exaggeration of how well he was doing. At the end of the day, he was busted up, broken down, and stopped in 4.5 rounds, and he wasn't ahead on the cards as some claimed.

Not sure exaggerated is the correct term.
Willie Munro and Martin Murray deserved and recieved credit for their performances against GGG.
Brook is getting similar, however I think he gets that little extra for coming up 2 weight classes, fighting on through injury and for me it was just slightly closer than those other 2 performances. I felt there was just that bit more quality to Brooks work.