So what ? He still needs Golovkin now, as Golovkin perceived as a better fighter.lefty wrote:He has a better resume than Golovkin now.boxing_rocks wrote:Financially, he could retire. He and his family are set for life. He wants to be remembered as a Mexican great comparable to Chavez, but behaves like a chicken. If he doesn't fight Golovkin next year, his legacy is screwed.lefty wrote:That may be the case but financially he doesn't.
Canelo's draw fading?
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Re: Canelo's draw fading?
Re: Canelo's draw fading?
Are you from easter europe by any chance?boxing_rocks wrote:So what ? He still needs Golovkin now, as Golovkin perceived as a better fighter.lefty wrote:He has a better resume than Golovkin now.boxing_rocks wrote:
Financially, he could retire. He and his family are set for life. He wants to be remembered as a Mexican great comparable to Chavez, but behaves like a chicken. If he doesn't fight Golovkin next year, his legacy is screwed.
Re: Canelo's draw fading?
You disagree that GGG is generally considered the better fighter?
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Canelo's draw fading?
If Canelo beat Golovkin, he'd have a better win than Chavez ever had.
Re: Canelo's draw fading?
No. I'm just disagreeing that Canelo necessarily needs Golovkin. He could still go about his career making multi million dollar paydays without ever fighting Golovkin. Golovkin on the other hand does need Canelo from a financial perspective, hence why his team are chasing the fight so hard despite Canelo having relinquished his middleweight belt and gone back down to 154.crusader wrote:You disagree that GGG is generally considered the better fighter?
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Re: Canelo's draw fading?
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You can call it bullshit but it's true. What else do you call it?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:at chasing the fight so hard. New week, same bullshit.
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Re: Canelo's draw fading?
None of them need each other from financial prospective, as they are both already rich people and can keep earning millions several times a year.lefty wrote:No. I'm just disagreeing that Canelo necessarily needs Golovkin. He could still go about his career making multi million dollar paydays without ever fighting Golovkin. Golovkin on the other hand does need Canelo from a financial perspective, hence why his team are chasing the fight so hard despite Canelo having relinquished his middleweight belt and gone back down to 154.crusader wrote:You disagree that GGG is generally considered the better fighter?
Canelo needs Golovkin to correct damage to his legacy he caused by dropping the belt and ducking.
Golovkin wouldn't mind to get Canelo on his resume, but he could also complete unification and move up to get belts at 168.
Re: Canelo's draw fading?
Golovkin is just 4 wins away from Hopkins's middle defenses record.
Possibly all by KO, which would pulverize Gomez' old record of 17 consecutive defenses by KO.
What in Canelo's "legacy" would remotely compare to this?
Getting schooled by 36 year old PBF?

Possibly all by KO, which would pulverize Gomez' old record of 17 consecutive defenses by KO.
What in Canelo's "legacy" would remotely compare to this?
Getting schooled by 36 year old PBF?
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Re: Canelo's draw fading?
Bullshit is never true. No need to recite the same stuff from last week. I already explained it to you.lefty wrote:You can call it bullshit but it's true. What else do you call it?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:at chasing the fight so hard. New week, same bullshit.
Re: Canelo's draw fading?
Yeah so I guess Loeffler didn't say this within the last week ....
Moving forward, in terms of Golovkin's career, the WBA has ordered him to make a mandatory defense against Daniel Jacobs next. "The plan is to fight Danny Jacobs and if the 'Canelo' fight comes up, that would trump any fight in boxing,"
http://www.BS.com/golovkins-pr ... oy--108899
They're not chasing the Canelo at all. Just a figment of my imagination. I guess that quote doesn't exist.
Loeffler also didn't say this earlier in the year ....
Loeffler responded, “We will stay in contact and, again, the priority is to try and make the fight in the next fight. I don’t think it changes the value or the significance of the match-up at all. Canelo is still the most marketable fighter in boxing
https://ucnlive.com/tom-loeffler-canelo ... in-boxing/
Moving forward, in terms of Golovkin's career, the WBA has ordered him to make a mandatory defense against Daniel Jacobs next. "The plan is to fight Danny Jacobs and if the 'Canelo' fight comes up, that would trump any fight in boxing,"
http://www.BS.com/golovkins-pr ... oy--108899
They're not chasing the Canelo at all. Just a figment of my imagination. I guess that quote doesn't exist.
Loeffler also didn't say this earlier in the year ....
Loeffler responded, “We will stay in contact and, again, the priority is to try and make the fight in the next fight. I don’t think it changes the value or the significance of the match-up at all. Canelo is still the most marketable fighter in boxing
https://ucnlive.com/tom-loeffler-canelo ... in-boxing/
Re: Canelo's draw fading?
Of course they want the fight, but is keeping in touch really chasing the fight 'so hard'?
Re: Canelo's draw fading?
Yeah but I thought Golovkin was all about accumulating all the belts at 160. Canelo no longer holds any of the 4 main belts at 160 so why are they still pursuing him if it's about him having all the belts at middleweight?crusader wrote:Of course they want the fight, but is keeping in touch really chasing the fight 'so hard'?
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Re: Canelo's draw fading?
No it isn't. Only in lefty's world. He's is looking to fight Jacobs. Didn't even mention him after the fight. It's almost as big a joke as that 'offer'.crusader wrote:Of course they want the fight, but is keeping in touch really chasing the fight 'so hard'?
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Re: Canelo's draw fading?
lefty wrote:Yeah but I thought Golovkin was all about accumulating all the belts at 160. Canelo no longer holds any of the 4 main belts at 160 so why are they still pursuing him if it's about him having all the belts at middleweight?crusader wrote:Of course they want the fight, but is keeping in touch really chasing the fight 'so hard'?
Re: Canelo's draw fading?
I thought you wouldnt have a substantial rebuttal so have reverted back to throwing out the
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
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Re: Canelo's draw fading?
lefty wrote:I thought you wouldnt have a substantial rebuttal so have reverted back to throwing out the![]()
Fair enough.
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Re: Canelo's draw fading?
lefty wrote:
Re: Canelo's draw fading?
How about the vaunted, legendary, microscopically discussed Lineal MW Championshiplefty wrote:I thought you wouldnt have a substantial rebuttal so have reverted back to throwing out the![]()
Fair enough.
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Re: Canelo's draw fading?
It's only significant in blog form. Answering questions in a blog is desperately chasing someone.Tanzio wrote:How about the vaunted, legendary, microscopically discussed Lineal MW Championshiplefty wrote:I thought you wouldnt have a substantial rebuttal so have reverted back to throwing out the![]()
Fair enough.![]()
lefty?
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Re: Canelo's draw fading?
He just needs one more belt, and its owner is (or at least was) hiding. He needs other opponents to fight 3 times a year.lefty wrote:Yeah but I thought Golovkin was all about accumulating all the belts at 160. Canelo no longer holds any of the 4 main belts at 160 so why are they still pursuing him if it's about him having all the belts at middleweight?crusader wrote:Of course they want the fight, but is keeping in touch really chasing the fight 'so hard'?
Re: Canelo's draw fading?
lefty wrote:
Re: Canelo's draw fading?
I'm falling asleep reading this waffle.