How far past his prime (if at all) do u have JoCal?

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 03 Mar 2006, 17:03

sorry about the JoCal thing, no idea where that came from.

Anyways I'm reading a lot of fight previews and articles stating this is a great fight blah blah blah between 2 fighters in their PRIME... I don't see it. Last few times I've watched Calzaghe I thought he's definitely looked on the slide, slower, less mobile and more liable to wing his shots in and leave big gaps down the middle. And despite the recent noises he's been making its well documented JC has found making 168 a real struggle in the past few years. I'm saying he's anywhere from 3-5 years PAST his very best.

Does ANYONE see this as Prime vs Prime??

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 03 Mar 2006, 17:05

It's on his way into prime vs possibly sliding/wait and see....Calzaghe may not be quite on his way out, as he said 4 more fights. If he comes out and dominates, he'll definitely quiet the doubters. However, if Lacy comes in and wrecks shop, he'll be definitely entering his prime, and it would mean a slide for Joe, seeing as he's never lost and finally did.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 03 Mar 2006, 17:10

I see it Lacy before his prime or Joe past his prime. However the winner will probably look back on the fight and regard it as their optimum performance.

I dont think prime is an issue here because Jeff is a bit green and Joe a bit over the hill. I guess one cancels the other out.

Jeff might hit his prime in 2 years, wheras Joe might have hit his 2 - 4 years ago.

One thing that has ocurred to me is that Joe wouldnt have fought anyone as tough as himself in his 22nd fight.

I still pick Joe to win, and if pressed, !st round, just a feeling though.

Its gonna be GGGGGGRRRRRR8

vargas · Post by **vargas** » 03 Mar 2006, 17:20

I see Joe's prime around 2000-2002, from beating Richie Woodhall up until the Brewer fight. If he'd faced the current Lacy at this time I'm in no doubt that Joe would have stopped him. The slower Calzaghe that faced Salem, Veit (the 2nd time) and Ashira will not be able to beat Lacy in my opinion.

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 03 Mar 2006, 17:21

calzaghe ko1? are you a retard?

i cant wait to log onto this forum after the fight!!!!!!!

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 03 Mar 2006, 17:24

lirva33 wrote:calzaghe ko1? are you a retard?

i cant wait to log onto this forum after the fight!!!!!!!

I'm not a retard. Apart from using this site, Ive nothing in common with you.

Remember, pay your bets, and if you cant afford to, at least be man enough to meet the man you owe and explain.

If my prediction proves to be wrong, do you think it bothers me that you will be loggin on to criticize my opinion.

You need to get out and meet people.

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 03 Mar 2006, 17:27

KO Atrist wrote:
lirva33 wrote:calzaghe ko1? are you a retard?

i cant wait to log onto this forum after the fight!!!!!!!
I'm not a retard. Apart from using this site, Ive nothing in common with you.

Remember, pay your bets, and if you cant afford to, at least be man enough to meet the man you owe and explain.

learn how to spell.

calzaghe ko1!!! thats hilarious!

if calzaghe KO's Lacy in 1 round I will leave this forum for good.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 03 Mar 2006, 17:28

vargas wrote:I see Joe's prime around 2000-2002, from beating Richie Woodhall up until the Brewer fight. If he'd faced the current Lacy at this time I'm in no doubt that Joe would have stopped him. The slower Calzaghe that faced Salem, Veit (the 2nd time) and Ashira will not be able to beat Lacy in my opinion.

I respect your opinon.

Lets hope its a great fight, and that both guys leave the ring with their health intact.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 03 Mar 2006, 17:30

lirva33 wrote:
KO Atrist wrote:
lirva33 wrote:calzaghe ko1? are you a retard?

i cant wait to log onto this forum after the fight!!!!!!!
I'm not a retard. Apart from using this site, Ive nothing in common with you.

Remember, pay your bets, and if you cant afford to, at least be man enough to meet the man you owe and explain.
learn how to spell.

calzaghe ko1!!! thats hilarious!

if calzaghe KO's Lacy in 1 round I will leave this forum for good.

Promises, promises

Why should I learn how to spell, when I have a gofer like you to correct it for me?

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 03 Mar 2006, 17:40

KO Atrist wrote:
lirva33 wrote:
KO Atrist wrote: I'm not a retard. Apart from using this site, Ive nothing in common with you.

Remember, pay your bets, and if you cant afford to, at least be man enough to meet the man you owe and explain.
learn how to spell.

calzaghe ko1!!! thats hilarious!

if calzaghe KO's Lacy in 1 round I will leave this forum for good.
Promises, promises

Why should I learn how to spell, when I have a gofer like you to correct it for me?

I am a man of my word. There is no way I could get out of that as it is posted there for everyone to see.

it won't happen anyway.

Artist = Artist not Atrist mate.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 03 Mar 2006, 17:45

lirva33 wrote:
KO Atrist wrote:
lirva33 wrote: learn how to spell.

calzaghe ko1!!! thats hilarious!

if calzaghe KO's Lacy in 1 round I will leave this forum for good.
Promises, promises

Why should I learn how to spell, when I have a gofer like you to correct it for me?
I am a man of my word. There is no way I could get out of that as it is posted there for everyone to see.

it won't happen anyway.

Artist = Artist not Atrist mate.

HA, HE'S IMPLYING HE GOT OUT OF HIS BET BECAUSE MOST OF IT WAS DECIDED THROUGH PM'S...WHERE THE fornicate IS A LYNCH MOB WHEN I NEED ONE???

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 03 Mar 2006, 17:48

lirva33 wrote:
I am a man of my word.

Hilarious

Your comedy act is breaking new boundaries

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 Mar 2006, 19:03

KO Artist wrote:I see it Lacy before his prime or Joe past his prime. However the winner will probably look back on the fight and regard it as their optimum performance.

I dont think prime is an issue here because Jeff is a bit green and Joe a bit over the hill. I guess one cancels the other out.

Jeff might hit his prime in 2 years, wheras Joe might have hit his 2 - 4 years ago.

One thing that has ocurred to me is that Joe wouldnt have fought anyone as tough as himself in his 22nd fight.

I still pick Joe to win, and if pressed, !st round, just a feeling though.

Its gonna be GGGGGGRRRRRR8

I've gone for Lacy W12, but I'm going to have a very minor punt on round by round for Calzaghe early, Joe's a fast started in big fights like this one and might just overwhelm Lacy.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 03 Mar 2006, 19:23

I see this as just before prime vs slightly over prime.

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 03 Mar 2006, 19:28

i'd say joe is 2-4 years past his prime...lacy is probably 2 years SHY of his prime...lacy by late TKO!!

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 03 Mar 2006, 19:36

If Calzaghe starts with guns blazing early then an early ko win is not beyond him... on the other hand such an approach could be his undoing, especially if he injurs his hands. I see Calzaghe boxing Lacy, at least early on, ...Calzaghe on Points imo...

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 03 Mar 2006, 19:49

His power cell last 120 years so he is still in his prime.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/max05/assss.jpg

jeej · Post by **jeej** » 03 Mar 2006, 21:50

Joe's biggest problem at the mo is that fragile hand of his. But, essentially now is the time for him. This fight will tell us a lot.