British Top 30 P4P December 2016
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forcefraser
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Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
Haye should be on there. He beat two guys with great records recently.
He will wallop Boomer, yet you have Boomer in top 10
You think you are so very very good and that we are so very very bad
He will wallop Boomer, yet you have Boomer in top 10
You think you are so very very good and that we are so very very bad
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
I think Campbell has had a much stronger 2016 than Eubank Jr.ginty wrote:Luke Campbell above eubanks and AJ not sure on that one
Joshua will overtake Campbell if he beats Molina this month.
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Liam Smith's record is awful.Ricky_ wrote:Liam Smith should be somewhere between 15-30 imo.
He was world champion, and even though he was out his league vs Canelo he showed he's operating at a pretty good level, certainly put on a better showing than Khan. Seems obvious that Smith is a better fighter than the likes of Skeete.
His best result is getting dominated and stopped by Alvarez.
He doesn't deserve a place in the top 30.
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Joshua is far less credible than McDonnell.Killer Blow wrote:Joshua is more credible than Mcdonnel, a guy that's actually lost his title twice.
Joshua is a pathetic world champion.
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Luke Campbell is domestic class, he beat a couple domestic level gate keeper types.Horse wrote:I think Campbell has had a much stronger 2016 than Eubank Jr.ginty wrote:Luke Campbell above eubanks and AJ not sure on that one
Joshua will overtake Campbell if he beats Molina this month.
I think a european title is about as good as Luke will get.
Joshua and CEJ might get stick for their choice of opponent but there is no question they are at very least fringe world level if not fully fledged world class.
Luke is Britains third best lightweight and that's only because Burns moved up a weight
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
And if we're ranking fighters on the strength of what they did in 2016, surely Fury isn't top 30, let alone no1
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Killer Blow
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Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
And Mcdonnel isn't even a world champion.Horse wrote:Joshua is far less credible than McDonnell.Killer Blow wrote:Joshua is more credible than Mcdonnel, a guy that's actually lost his title twice.
Joshua is a pathetic world champion.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
LancashireLoyal wrote:Mcdonnell won the fight and the opponent was a better quality than we all gave him credit for,theres an argument that win added to his form over last 2 years compared should take him above khan and brook at this moment.
It's not clear who is the better of the two.LancashireLoyal wrote:Stephen Smith should be in the top 30 but theres no reason why he should jump in 6 places straight away coming off the back of two losses and over the likes of walsh who is arguably a better fighter at the weight.
They should fight so we can find out.
Lee will probably fall out of the rankings in a few months time.LancashireLoyal wrote:Burnett should be out.Tyrone Nurse and Liam Williams should both be in with Nurse ahead.Andy Lee is hanging around like a bad smell hes doing nothing id think of even having skeete ahead of him.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
He's a God?BigDoofus wrote:Fury is not a boxer any more.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
Based on what?davie wrote:Yes, he's better than easily more than half of that list
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
Horse wrote:Liam Smith's record is awful.Ricky_ wrote:Liam Smith should be somewhere between 15-30 imo.
He was world champion, and even though he was out his league vs Canelo he showed he's operating at a pretty good level, certainly put on a better showing than Khan. Seems obvious that Smith is a better fighter than the likes of Skeete.
His best result is getting dominated and stopped by Alvarez.
He doesn't deserve a place in the top 30.
P4p lists shouldn't be entirely record based.
Who would say that Skeete for example, is better than Smith?
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
Have you not taken your medication?Horse wrote:He's a God?BigDoofus wrote:Fury is not a boxer any more.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
I don't think beating Molina really gives that much credibility.Horse wrote:I think Campbell has had a much stronger 2016 than Eubank Jr.ginty wrote:Luke Campbell above eubanks and AJ not sure on that one
Joshua will overtake Campbell if he beats Molina this month.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
agreed , what is even the point of this list with a silly attitude like that ?Killer Blow wrote:Laughable.Horse wrote:Indefinitely.afcmarshall wrote:How long will you keep him in for then 2,3,4 years?
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My unquestionably good judgementHorse wrote:Based on what?davie wrote:Yes, he's better than easily more than half of that list
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If you don't like it then go away.rd350lc wrote:agreed , what is even the point of this list with a silly attitude like that ?Killer Blow wrote:Laughable.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
No, he didn't.forcefraser wrote:Haye should be on there. He beat two guys with great records recently.
But, he hasn't actually walloped Boomer yet and he might not ever do it.forcefraser wrote:He will wallop Boomer, yet you have Boomer in top 10
No, I think that I'm very, very bad as well.forcefraser wrote:You think you are so very very good and that we are so very very bad
I hate myself.
Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016
It is not clear that either Joshua or Eubank Jr are better than Campbell.davie wrote:Luke Campbell is domestic class, he beat a couple domestic level gate keeper types.
I think a european title is about as good as Luke will get.
Joshua and CEJ might get stick for their choice of opponent but there is no question they are at very least fringe world level if not fully fledged world class.
Luke is Britains third best lightweight and that's only because Burns moved up a weight
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Ricky_ wrote:Horse wrote:Liam Smith's record is awful.Ricky_ wrote:Liam Smith should be somewhere between 15-30 imo.
He was world champion, and even though he was out his league vs Canelo he showed he's operating at a pretty good level, certainly put on a better showing than Khan. Seems obvious that Smith is a better fighter than the likes of Skeete.
His best result is getting dominated and stopped by Alvarez.
He doesn't deserve a place in the top 30.
P4p lists shouldn't be entirely record based.
Who would say that Skeete for example, is better than Smith?
Skeetes win over Eggington is better than anything Liam Smith has done.
John Thompson who he beat for the WBO title was awful got sparked in 2 by an unknown not long before that. What's his best win Ochieng ?
Also Gallagher turned down the Andrade fight a couple of months before because he knows Liam Smith is far from world class.
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Joshua winning a version of a world title trumps Campbell losing to the world no.26.Horse wrote:It is not clear that either Joshua or Eubank Jr are better than Campbell.davie wrote:Luke Campbell is domestic class, he beat a couple domestic level gate keeper types.
I think a european title is about as good as Luke will get.
Joshua and CEJ might get stick for their choice of opponent but there is no question they are at very least fringe world level if not fully fledged world class.
Luke is Britains third best lightweight and that's only because Burns moved up a weight
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Undisputed world cruiserweight champion and world heavyweight champion is not as good as Tyrone Nurse?Horse wrote:Based on what?davie wrote:Yes, he's better than easily more than half of that list
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Luckily for Fury that's not how I do things.davie wrote:And if we're ranking fighters on the strength of what they did in 2016, surely Fury isn't top 30, let alone no1
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He's more of a world champion than Joshua.Killer Blow wrote:And Mcdonnel isn't even a world champion.
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I think that plenty of people would consider Skeete to be better than Smith.Ricky_ wrote:P4p lists shouldn't be entirely record based.
Who would say that Skeete for example, is better than Smith?
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It's a big enough win to move Joshua up a bit.BitPlayer wrote:I don't think beating Molina really gives that much credibility.
It's a domestic level type of win.