Officially Malik Scott is probably the best. Pretty much everyone agrees he should have won against Helenius, and if you count that it's not even close.lefty wrote:Who is then?
I'm not sure my friend, Whyte got around 10% of AJS purse and did all the work in the build up. The storyline and rivalry from the old days was a 50/50 thing. I just think he was worth a bit more than he was paid, not all, but a little but more IMO.Taansend wrote:
Hello Wes,wesshaw1985 wrote:Whyte saying Chisora didn't fight Joshua because he was scared was daft.
You only have to look at Chisoras resume to see he isn't scared to face anyone (Fury x2 and Haye) and will even travel to face top guys in their backyards (Vitali, Helenius and Pulev).
Also couldn't argue with Chisora saying he wasn't offered enough to face Joshua, Chisoras had some big paydays and didn't want to undercut himself just for the privilege of facing Joshua on PPV.
Dillian taking £350k for that fight shocked me really, the storyline sold itself and Whyte did a magnificent job of playing the bad guy to AJs boring humble act. Especially when AJ picked up multi-millions for the show, thought he could have banked at least £500k and a cut of the PPV buys...
Delboy might play the clown, but beneath that I think hes a tad smarter than he cares to let on.
All that said, Whyte should win on Saturday either by decision or late stoppage. Chisoras only chance to win is put it all on the line and brawl with Whyte for the first 6 rounds to hopefully catch Whyte IMO.
I'm looking forward to this one...
Whyte taking 350k for the AJ fight was brilliant. It gained him untold exposure and has raised his subsequent purses.
He'd still just be an ex drug cheat toiling away with out that bout.
I'm a fan of both fighters but can't decide on a winner in this
Chisora's best win is Malik Scott (35-0 at the time)...lefty wrote:Who is then?BitPlayer wrote:Whyte wouldn't even be Chisora's best win.mimmy123 wrote:Another thing to think about is that the UFC is making big waves these days and can fill out arenas no matter where they go. I would imagine that there are only 1 world champion at each weight too so no messing with these silver titles, regular, super etc etc. Also having only 1 world champ is easier for the general fan to keep track of.
If boxing is not careful it will lose ground and the promotors will soon swap over as they dont really give a shite anyway.
Trying to sell out boxing matches seems to be becoming harder depending on whos popular these days. So making up daft eye openers such as throwing cardboard tables will become the norm.
One thing for sure though this should be Chisora's last fight cause every one else has beaten him.
He's got no chin. He got flattened by Wilder in a round and ran for 12 rounds against Ortiz. I'm not sure that's a particularly great win in hindsight.wesshaw1985 wrote:Chisora's best win is Malik Scott (35-0 at the time)...lefty wrote:Who is then?BitPlayer wrote: Whyte wouldn't even be Chisora's best win.
On the other hand he's the only fight to take Ortiz 12 roundslefty wrote:He's got no chin. He got flattened by Wilder in a round and ran for 12 rounds against Ortiz. I'm not sure that's a particularly great win in hindsight.wesshaw1985 wrote:Chisora's best win is Malik Scott (35-0 at the time)...lefty wrote: Who is then?
Mr Weswesshaw1985 wrote:I'm not sure my friend, Whyte got around 10% of AJS purse and did all the work in the build up. The storyline and rivalry from the old days was a 50/50 thing. I just think he was worth a bit more than he was paid, not all, but a little but more IMO.Taansend wrote:Hello Wes,wesshaw1985 wrote:Whyte saying Chisora didn't fight Joshua because he was scared was daft.
You only have to look at Chisoras resume to see he isn't scared to face anyone (Fury x2 and Haye) and will even travel to face top guys in their backyards (Vitali, Helenius and Pulev).
Also couldn't argue with Chisora saying he wasn't offered enough to face Joshua, Chisoras had some big paydays and didn't want to undercut himself just for the privilege of facing Joshua on PPV.
Dillian taking £350k for that fight shocked me really, the storyline sold itself and Whyte did a magnificent job of playing the bad guy to AJs boring humble act. Especially when AJ picked up multi-millions for the show, thought he could have banked at least £500k and a cut of the PPV buys...
Delboy might play the clown, but beneath that I think hes a tad smarter than he cares to let on.
All that said, Whyte should win on Saturday either by decision or late stoppage. Chisoras only chance to win is put it all on the line and brawl with Whyte for the first 6 rounds to hopefully catch Whyte IMO.
I'm looking forward to this one...
Whyte taking 350k for the AJ fight was brilliant. It gained him untold exposure and has raised his subsequent purses.
He'd still just be an ex drug cheat toiling away with out that bout.
I'm a fan of both fighters but can't decide on a winner in this
Whyte has to be the smart money for this one, either way I think it will be a fun fight...
If Whyte loses he'll still have no wins above area level....in that case it will probably be easy to regard the Scott win as superior. I mean what basis would there be for ranking Whyte so highly? His one good round against overeager AJ? His great wins over Dave the punching bag and big obese Ian? Whyte needs this win for credibility more than Chisora does.....lefty wrote:He's got no chin. He got flattened by Wilder in a round and ran for 12 rounds against Ortiz. I'm not sure that's a particularly great win in hindsight.wesshaw1985 wrote:Chisora's best win is Malik Scott (35-0 at the time)...lefty wrote: Who is then?
question was, who is Chisoras best win?lefty wrote:He's got no chin. He got flattened by Wilder in a round and ran for 12 rounds against Ortiz. I'm not sure that's a particularly great win in hindsight.wesshaw1985 wrote:Chisora's best win is Malik Scott (35-0 at the time)...lefty wrote: Who is then?
if somebody offered you 10 times your daily wage tomorrow and you arrived on the job and found out the bloke next to you was earning 10 times what you were earning again, for doing the same amount of work, you'd soon want a payrise.Taansend wrote:Mr Weswesshaw1985 wrote:I'm not sure my friend, Whyte got around 10% of AJS purse and did all the work in the build up. The storyline and rivalry from the old days was a 50/50 thing. I just think he was worth a bit more than he was paid, not all, but a little but more IMO.Taansend wrote:
Hello Wes,
Whyte taking 350k for the AJ fight was brilliant. It gained him untold exposure and has raised his subsequent purses.
He'd still just be an ex drug cheat toiling away with out that bout.
I'm a fan of both fighters but can't decide on a winner in this
Whyte has to be the smart money for this one, either way I think it will be a fun fight...
It's all relative.
He may have got 10% of AJ'sv purse but he got ten times more than his previous purses.
Plus he's now earning more than he would have done if he hadn't fought Joshua.
He made a wise decision
DelBoy is financially astute.wesshaw1985 wrote:Whyte saying Chisora didn't fight Joshua because he was scared was daft.
You only have to look at Chisoras resume to see he isn't scared to face anyone (Fury x2 and Haye) and will even travel to face top guys in their backyards (Vitali, Helenius and Pulev).
Also couldn't argue with Chisora saying he wasn't offered enough to face Joshua, Chisoras had some big paydays and didn't want to undercut himself just for the privilege of facing Joshua on PPV.
Dillian taking £350k for that fight shocked me really, the storyline sold itself and Whyte did a magnificent job of playing the bad guy to AJs boring humble act. Especially when AJ picked up multi-millions for the show, thought he could have banked at least £500k and a cut of the PPV buys...
Delboy might play the clown, but beneath that I think hes a tad smarter than he cares to let on.
All that said, Whyte should win on Saturday either by decision or late stoppage. Chisoras only chance to win is put it all on the line and brawl with Whyte for the first 6 rounds to hopefully catch Whyte IMO.
I'm looking forward to this one...
Although I see what you're getting at, Taansend makes a valid point.wesshaw1985 wrote:if somebody offered you 10 times your daily wage tomorrow and you arrived on the job and found out the bloke next to you was earning 10 times what you were earning again, for doing the same amount of work, you'd soon want a payrise.Taansend wrote:Mr Weswesshaw1985 wrote: I'm not sure my friend, Whyte got around 10% of AJS purse and did all the work in the build up. The storyline and rivalry from the old days was a 50/50 thing. I just think he was worth a bit more than he was paid, not all, but a little but more IMO.
Whyte has to be the smart money for this one, either way I think it will be a fun fight...
It's all relative.
He may have got 10% of AJ'sv purse but he got ten times more than his previous purses.
Plus he's now earning more than he would have done if he hadn't fought Joshua.
He made a wise decision
Dillian should have been better advised and gotten a bigger piece of the pie in my opinion...
That's pretty much it, mate.Rob3_142 wrote:Although I see what you're getting at, Taansend makes a valid point.wesshaw1985 wrote:if somebody offered you 10 times your daily wage tomorrow and you arrived on the job and found out the bloke next to you was earning 10 times what you were earning again, for doing the same amount of work, you'd soon want a payrise.Taansend wrote:
Mr Wes
It's all relative.
He may have got 10% of AJ'sv purse but he got ten times more than his previous purses.
Plus he's now earning more than he would have done if he hadn't fought Joshua.
He made a wise decision
Dillian should have been better advised and gotten a bigger piece of the pie in my opinion...
At the end of the day, Whyte was a completely unknown, and wouldn't of made a fraction of that payday anywhere else. The reason he got what he did was because of who was paying him. At the end of the day, Joshua generates the revenue, not Whyte (hence why there's big money in all AJ's fights). No doubt Whyte played his part in the build up, which probably helped make record sales for a British Heavyweight title.
Whyte has in my opinion been quite smart, he's used the Joshua fight to not only put his name on the radar, he's gone on to essentially make himself a wholesale name. He's been active, followed the same route as Joshua with the British title, got himself fit and focussed. There's too much short game in this business, and he's being smart here and considering the bigger picture. His payday will come, and if he comes through Chisora with bells on, don't be surprised if he starts headlining a few shows.
Well there were no knockdowns, but it was a pretty good fight.jamesmcdonnell wrote:Cue fight of the year candidate with multiple knockdowns on both sides.milpool wrote:I've gone for a Chisora points win...
Whoever wins, it'll be a boring, plodding points victory.
Ha ha! What do I know?!BitPlayer wrote:Well there were no knockdowns, but it was a pretty good fight.jamesmcdonnell wrote:Cue fight of the year candidate with multiple knockdowns on both sides.milpool wrote:I've gone for a Chisora points win...
Whoever wins, it'll be a boring, plodding points victory.