You are wrongHorse wrote:You are wrong.gilgamesh wrote:No conceivable way in my opinion. 113-113 is the best case scenario for Degale IMO. If anything Jack won wider than I scored it.
Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
So you don't think that it's conceivable to score the fight for DeGale?bripez wrote:You are wrong
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wesshaw1985
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Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
You're giving him the benefit of the doubt in every mildly close round to score it for him IMO, and he was outlanded in punches in even a lot of the rounds I did score for him.Horse wrote:So you don't think that it's conceivable to score the fight for DeGale?bripez wrote:You are wrong
I thought he got swept over the last 5 rounds, and Jack won at least 2 of the first 7. You could argue he won 3 or more.
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Jack won by 1 point on my card.
He looked almost suspiciously strong. Perhaps it's wearing a belt, perhaps he's using Floid's dietician.
He looked almost suspiciously strong. Perhaps it's wearing a belt, perhaps he's using Floid's dietician.
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
I gave DeGale 3 of the last 5. I didn't see any late rounds domination from Jack.gilgamesh wrote:You're giving him the benefit of the doubt in every mildly close round to score it for him IMO, and he was outlanded in punches in even a lot of the rounds I did score for him.
I thought he got swept over the last 5 rounds, and Jack won at least 2 of the first 7. You could argue he won 3 or more.
There were lots of close rounds and people scored them differently. You scored it the way you scored it and other people scored it the way they did.
Loads of people scored the fight for DeGale, so you acting like it is "inconceivable" for the fight to be scored to DeGale is daft.
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Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
I don't like to accuse normally, but the thought did cross my mind as well. Saying that, everyone said the same about Porky Medina, so either DeGale is facing consecutive juicers or he's just a bit weaker than we all thought.G0mez wrote:Jack won by 1 point on my card.
He looked almost suspiciously strong. Perhaps it's wearing a belt, perhaps he's using Floid's dietician.
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Is DeGale considered to be a strong fighter?Boxerbeetle wrote:I don't like to accuse normally, but the thought did cross my mind as well. Saying that, everyone said the same about Porky Medina, so either DeGale is facing consecutive juicers or he's just a bit weaker than we all thought.
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Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Not in terms of pure punching power. But in terms of general strength, I would have expected him to be stronger than both Jack & Medina based on previous performances.Horse wrote:Is DeGale considered to be a strong fighter?Boxerbeetle wrote:I don't like to accuse normally, but the thought did cross my mind as well. Saying that, everyone said the same about Porky Medina, so either DeGale is facing consecutive juicers or he's just a bit weaker than we all thought.
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Mayweather fighters will be doing exactly as he did, it's naive to think otherwise.
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Giving Degale 3 of the last 5 just shows how blatantly bias you are in favor of U.K. fighters.Horse wrote:I gave DeGale 3 of the last 5. I didn't see any late rounds domination from Jack.gilgamesh wrote:You're giving him the benefit of the doubt in every mildly close round to score it for him IMO, and he was outlanded in punches in even a lot of the rounds I did score for him.
I thought he got swept over the last 5 rounds, and Jack won at least 2 of the first 7. You could argue he won 3 or more.
There were lots of close rounds and people scored them differently. You scored it the way you scored it and other people scored it the way they did.
Loads of people scored the fight for DeGale, so you acting like it is "inconceivable" for the fight to be scored to DeGale is daft.
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Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Tanzio wrote:Jack was not busy enough in a number of close rounds. It looked like he was taking it over but Degale would comeback in individual rounds and in the fight. Jack was cutting it too fine activity-wise. He was the aggressor for most of the fight but Degale threw great combos to score points in rounds.ShadrachSimmo wrote:I thought Jack won it and I expected it to be a UD. The scorecard given to Degale surprised me. I just felt from round 3 up til about 10 Jack controlled most of the rounds albeit some were close. The knockdown in the last really saved Jack but I don't think it should have. I thought he had it.ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Robbery of the year so far De Gale hurt atleast half a dozen time's or more clearly out pointed Jack....De Gale who's punch's mainly landed on Jacks Glove's and Arm's and in return Jacks punch's were the much much cleaner shot's through out the fight I know you don't judge a fight on who's face is busted the most after the event but De Gales face told a thousand stories after the fight the Knopck down in the final round by Jack was certainly the clincher for Jack..................................................Geeze I just had a terrible thought if Jack doesn't get the knockdown in the last round then De Gale wins a un decthat would have a travesty.
It is true that in the UK the decision would have likely been lopsided for Degale in this fight and if the roles were reversed it would likely have been a relatively wide UD. But are we now going to cry robbery if the judges don't give home fighters their home advantage?
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
In my opinion Jack's 3 draws should all be wins
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Didn't see the Bute fight, was it close?crusader wrote:In my opinion Jack's 3 draws should all be wins
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Competitive but clear for Jack IMO. Bute tried hard and looked better than the unconfident guy who was routed by Pascal, but he was still outgunned in most rounds.
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
I scored the fight 114-112 to DeGale, which is the same margin that lots of people scored the fight to DeGale. Scoring this fight to DeGale by two points is not an unusual or clearly biased scorecard.gilgamesh wrote:Giving Degale 3 of the last 5 just shows how blatantly bias you are in favor of U.K. fighters.
You scored it 114-112 to Jack, others who scored it differently are not necessarily wrong. Maybe you should try to have more tolerance for other people's opinions.
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Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Ive watched DeGale since the schoolboys, he doesn't get bullied by anyone. I've seen a bit of Jack as well. The guy was juiced off his tits.G0mez wrote:Jack won by 1 point on my card.
He looked almost suspiciously strong. Perhaps it's wearing a belt, perhaps he's using Floid's dietician.
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Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Badou Jack was spotted visiting Kid Galahad's brother....
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Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
You bastard you got it in before I did!mickey1975 wrote:Badou Jack was spotted visiting Kid Galahad's brother....
Mind, it's 'nights out with kid galahads brother' that is the accepted unofficial forum use, so you know for next time mate
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
The judges scored the fight, you are wrong.Horse wrote:So you don't think that it's conceivable to score the fight for DeGale?bripez wrote:You are wrong
Why not set up an on-line petition alongside the Brexit and Trump ones and ask for a re-count?
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Terrible post.bripez wrote:The judges scored the fight, you are wrong.
Why not set up an on-line petition alongside the Brexit and Trump ones and ask for a re-count?
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Watched the fight twice now - great fight , and how tough was DeGale.
I had DeGale up by 4 points going into the last. I don't believe I'm biased, I try to concentrate on every second and what I do is count the 'scoring' punches although i realise that's not the criteria but it helps me to pay attention.
On the official scorecards only 7 rounds were unanimous . Close fight.
I had DeGale up by 4 points going into the last. I don't believe I'm biased, I try to concentrate on every second and what I do is count the 'scoring' punches although i realise that's not the criteria but it helps me to pay attention.
On the official scorecards only 7 rounds were unanimous . Close fight.
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Great response - that's me told ......Horse wrote:Terrible post.bripez wrote:The judges scored the fight, you are wrong.
Why not set up an on-line petition alongside the Brexit and Trump ones and ask for a re-count?
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/poll-ho ... ack-fight/bripez wrote:Great response - that's me told ......Horse wrote:Terrible post.bripez wrote:The judges scored the fight, you are wrong.
Why not set up an on-line petition alongside the Brexit and Trump ones and ask for a re-count?
Draw -32
Degale -30
Jack -38
That looks fair to me and also tells you there was no robbery. Tough fight to call
Re: Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017
Stop making a fool of yourself.bripez wrote:Great response - that's me told ......