Well, that's one way of avoiding a fightOn Wednesday, Cuban heavyweight contender Luis Ortiz advised BS.com's Ryan Burton that he was ready, willing and able to fight WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder on February 25th at Legacy Arena in Birmingham, Alabama
Tell Wilder, 'hey I'm here, I'll take the February 25 fight. Let me know and stop wasting the fans' time with these fights'," Luis Ortiz (27-0-2, 23 KOs).
We eliminated anybody from consideration who has a history of PEDs. We are not going to fight any boxer with a history of PEDs on a month's notice," DiBella told BS.com
http://www.BS.com/wilder-promo ... hEWO0.dpuf
Wilder ducks Ortiz
Wilder ducks Ortiz
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
It is easier to say which of top HWs Wilder doesn't duck: NONE.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
..now, folks..seems like we've got an explanation why Wilder's been a bottom feeder all along:
he's been avoiding anyone who has a history of PEDS..makes sense, doesn't it ![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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asdfjkl
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
But didn't they prove themself to be liers on this point already by challenging that junk that got busted several times called Arreola?DannyMCR wrote:Well, that's one way of avoiding a fightOn Wednesday, Cuban heavyweight contender Luis Ortiz advised BS.com's Ryan Burton that he was ready, willing and able to fight WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder on February 25th at Legacy Arena in Birmingham, Alabama
Tell Wilder, 'hey I'm here, I'll take the February 25 fight. Let me know and stop wasting the fans' time with these fights'," Luis Ortiz (27-0-2, 23 KOs).
We eliminated anybody from consideration who has a history of PEDs. We are not going to fight any boxer with a history of PEDs on a month's notice," DiBella told BS.com
http://www.BS.com/wilder-promo ... hEWO0.dpuf
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Maybe our lot our attempting to weaken Wilder with such a challenge.
Ortiz fights out of the UK why are none of our lot challenging Ortiz ?
Ortiz fights out of the UK why are none of our lot challenging Ortiz ?
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Wilder needs to step up and fight. It is a bullshit excuse to not fight someone because they have tested positive before. Make them immediately enroll in random testing. I read Fury said he will also fight Wilder on the February date. What more could he ask for?
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marvelous marv
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
To clarify they said no past PED users on 4 weeks notice. Am i the only one who read the article...
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Get Whyte to challenge Wilder ... Chisora as a back up would be worth brownie points especially if the Chisora v Whyte rematch didn't happen.
Could do in the UK Wilder might be open for that.
Could do in the UK Wilder might be open for that.
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asdfjkl
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
That makes him a pussy right? Real boxers like Ortiz have no problems with this.marvelous marv wrote:To clarify they said no past PED users on 4 weeks notice. Am i the only one who read the article...
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asdfjkl
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
It can't become Whyte any more as the text suggests.Evander wrote:Get Whyte to challenge Wilder ... Chisora as a back up would be worth brownie points especially if the Chisora v Whyte rematch didn't happen.
Could do in the UK Wilder might be open for that.
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marvelous marv
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
I would say the coward here is the guy who needed to inject Nandrolone into his ass before a fight.asdfjkl wrote: marvelous marv wrote:
To clarify they said no past PED users on 4 weeks notice. Am i the only one who read the article...
That makes him a pussy right? Real boxers like Ortiz have no problems with this.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Ortiz has looked terrible in his last two (arguably three) fights.Evander wrote:Maybe our lot our attempting to weaken Wilder with such a challenge.
Ortiz fights out of the UK why are none of our lot challenging Ortiz ?
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
People refrain from educating themselves with knowledge of any information that doesn't adhere to their preferred narrative.marvelous marv wrote:To clarify they said no past PED users on 4 weeks notice. Am i the only one who read the article...
If the facts aren't agreeable to them, then they get ignored.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
The Nandrolone was inadvertent usage... He's a Cuban and they eat horse meat... Horses are sometimes injected with Nandrolone and other Steroids. He's responsible for what goes into his body -- but Stiverne was given a complete pass for using PED's... Let's have consistency.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Talking apples vs oranges. You don't inadvertantly consume steroids by eating horse meat, when you have been caught before, unless you are a total idiot. Stiverne's situation was completely different, no matter how many times you say it was the same.Kalan wrote:The Nandrolone was inadvertent usage... He's a Cuban and they eat horse meat... Horses are sometimes injected with Nandrolone and other Steroids. He's responsible for what goes into his body -- but Stiverne was given a complete pass for using PED's... Let's have consistency.
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montrealsuper
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Wilder is carefully protected worse than Carnera was - pay no attention to this fraud pretender who in actuality is just the ALA hwt beltholder - 
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
He still looked too good for Wilder to take on him.Enlightened-One wrote:Ortiz has looked terrible in his last two (arguably three) fights.Evander wrote:Maybe our lot our attempting to weaken Wilder with such a challenge.
Ortiz fights out of the UK why are none of our lot challenging Ortiz ?
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punchoutsb
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
I would say neither of you know what the word pussy or coward means.marvelous marv wrote:I would say the coward here is the guy who needed to inject Nandrolone into his ass before a fight.asdfjkl wrote: marvelous marv wrote:
To clarify they said no past PED users on 4 weeks notice. Am i the only one who read the article...
That makes him a pussy right? Real boxers like Ortiz have no problems with this.
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tiny_acres
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
I personally find it cowardly to have to use drugs to cheat.punchoutsb wrote:I would say neither of you know what the word pussy or coward means.marvelous marv wrote:I would say the coward here is the guy who needed to inject Nandrolone into his ass before a fight.asdfjkl wrote: marvelous marv wrote:
To clarify they said no past PED users on 4 weeks notice. Am i the only one who read the article...
That makes him a pussy right? Real boxers like Ortiz have no problems with this.
But that is just my opinion
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punchoutsb
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
It's only cheating because there is still a sector pushing faux-morality preventing athletes from using every avenue to work for success. PED laws/rules are, for the most part, stupid and the only excuses made for them being a good thing are:tiny_acres wrote:I personally find it cowardly to have to use drugs to cheat.punchoutsb wrote:I would say neither of you know what the word pussy or coward means.marvelous marv wrote:
I would say the coward here is the guy who needed to inject Nandrolone into his ass before a fight.
But that is just my opinion
Health...as if sports are a healthy venture in the first place
and
Fairness or equality...as if all athletes have access to the same facilities, coaches, food, etc etc etc.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Considering Boxing is a hazardous sport. Rules should be stricter.Ortiz tested positive for the anabolic steroid Nandrolone following a September 11 knockout victory over Lateef Kayode in Las Vegas. He was suspended, fined and had the result of the fight changed to a no contest by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. He was suspended for eight months from the date of the fight and fined him $8,000 (10 percent of his $80,000 purse) and he was even required to pay commission $450 for the lab test on his sample. Besides that, he was also required to perform 15 hours of community service... - See more at: http://www.BS.com/wilder-promo ... EQ4vv.dpuf
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Why does everyone have to take a side in these debates
let have it like it is. Wilder is a protected fighter that hand picks sub-par opposition AND Ortiz is a proven drug cheat.
Why does it have to be one or the other
let have it like it is. Wilder is a protected fighter that hand picks sub-par opposition AND Ortiz is a proven drug cheat.
Why does it have to be one or the other
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punchoutsb
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
I don't think you could explain that train of thought to the end of the tracks.MachoTime wrote:Considering Boxing is a hazardous sport. Rules should be stricter.Ortiz tested positive for the anabolic steroid Nandrolone following a September 11 knockout victory over Lateef Kayode in Las Vegas. He was suspended, fined and had the result of the fight changed to a no contest by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. He was suspended for eight months from the date of the fight and fined him $8,000 (10 percent of his $80,000 purse) and he was even required to pay commission $450 for the lab test on his sample. Besides that, he was also required to perform 15 hours of community service... - See more at: http://www.BS.com/wilder-promo ... EQ4vv.dpuf
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Didn't Ortiz test positive for PED's though, not that it would have mattered, since I doubt Wilder would have been willing to face him anyway?boxing_rocks wrote:He still looked too good for Wilder to take on him.Enlightened-One wrote:Ortiz has looked terrible in his last two (arguably three) fights.Evander wrote:Maybe our lot our attempting to weaken Wilder with such a challenge.
Ortiz fights out of the UK why are none of our lot challenging Ortiz ?