Seen this been said a few times since the fight. Just wondering how so? Frampton won the first fight and got narrowly beaten after a slow start in the second fight. How does this make him clearly the inferior fighter?!TheLeprechaun wrote:Crease wrote:Carl had to, there was (despite McGuigan's denials) a rematch clause installed in the contract for their 1st fight that Leo would be granted an immediate rematch in the event of his loss.TheDarkDestroyer wrote:I don't see why he won't keep his word. Frampton went over as defending champion.
Carl has no leverage to bring Leo over. There wasn't a rematch clause this time around and Leo has the belt, he is the Champ.
Leo initoally did say that he would fight in Belfast but in the subsrquent interviews since he has said repeatedly that it's not his decision & it depends on what his team thinks.
I really don't see the incentive for LSC to travel abroad and face a hostile crowd. He would probably win the fight and get robbed and he knows this.
Not a chance of a Belfast fight. I could see a rematch happening in Vegas. But the problem is that the demand isn't quite there. It was pretty clear the LSC is the better fighter.
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Marlo Stanfield
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Marlo Stanfield
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If anything, it's pretty clear that they are a very evenly matched pair of fighters.Marlo Stanfield wrote:Seen this been said a few times since the fight. Just wondering how so? Frampton won the first fight and got narrowly beaten after a slow start in the second fight. How does this make him clearly the inferior fighter?!TheLeprechaun wrote:Crease wrote: Carl had to, there was (despite McGuigan's denials) a rematch clause installed in the contract for their 1st fight that Leo would be granted an immediate rematch in the event of his loss.
Carl has no leverage to bring Leo over. There wasn't a rematch clause this time around and Leo has the belt, he is the Champ.
Leo initoally did say that he would fight in Belfast but in the subsrquent interviews since he has said repeatedly that it's not his decision & it depends on what his team thinks.
I really don't see the incentive for LSC to travel abroad and face a hostile crowd. He would probably win the fight and get robbed and he knows this.
Not a chance of a Belfast fight. I could see a rematch happening in Vegas. But the problem is that the demand isn't quite there. It was pretty clear the LSC is the better fighter.
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Marlo Stanfield wrote:If anything, it's pretty clear that they are a very evenly matched pair of fighters.
Agreed. Tactically, Carl got the 2nd fight wrong and it's cost him. It doesn't mean that Leo is automatically the better fighter.
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X3. They could fight another 5 times and every fight would be close.Crease wrote:Marlo Stanfield wrote:If anything, it's pretty clear that they are a very evenly matched pair of fighters.
Agreed. Tactically, Carl got the 2nd fight wrong and it's cost him. It doesn't mean that Leo is automatically the better fighter.
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Carl said as much in the post fight press conference. He said that he believed him and Leo were very evenly matched and that they could fight "three, four, five times" and each would have a different outcome.Stuarty30 wrote:X3. They could fight another 5 times and every fight would be close.
He also said that if Leo came to Belfast for the 3rd encounter, then he would be happy to go to California for the 4th.
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I do hope, as it looks as though the 3rd will probably happen next, that if Carl wins another close one, that they don't go straight into a fourth fight. Would be nice to see the other champions get a shot at unifying against themCrease wrote:Carl said as much in the post fight press conference. He said that he believed him and Leo were very evenly matched and that they could fight "three, four, five times" and each would have a different outcome.Stuarty30 wrote:X3. They could fight another 5 times and every fight would be close.
He also said that if Leo came to Belfast for the 3rd encounter, then he would be happy to go to California for the 4th.
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Christ 4 fights! Lol! I've enjoyed the first two but there's other fights out there for both. I wouldn't mind a third fight next up then they can go their separate ways for a few fights and see what happens.Crease wrote:Carl said as much in the post fight press conference. He said that he believed him and Leo were very evenly matched and that they could fight "three, four, five times" and each would have a different outcome.Stuarty30 wrote:X3. They could fight another 5 times and every fight would be close.
He also said that if Leo came to Belfast for the 3rd encounter, then he would be happy to go to California for the 4th.
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I think that Carl knows the importance of having rival who pushes him to his maximum.Stuarty30 wrote:Christ 4 fights! Lol! I've enjoyed the first two but there's other fights out there for both. I wouldn't mind a third fight next up then they can go their separate ways for a few fights and see what happens.
And having multi-fight rivallries can be be big money-spinners for both fighters especially at the lower weights as we've seen, Barrera vs Morales, Pacquaio vs JM Marquez - i think that's what Carl is relying on and hoping for.
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Probably but whoever he fights is gonna be a good earner. He has options. Would love to see LSC in Belfast. I'd definitely be trying my best to get over for that!Crease wrote:I think that Carl knows the importance of having rival who pushes him to his maximum.Stuarty30 wrote:Christ 4 fights! Lol! I've enjoyed the first two but there's other fights out there for both. I wouldn't mind a third fight next up then they can go their separate ways for a few fights and see what happens.
And having multi-fight rivallries can be be big money-spinners for both fighters especially at the lower weights as we've seen, Barrera vs Morales, Pacquaio vs JM Marquez - i think that's what Carl is relying on and hoping for.
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Let me know if you're coming over Stu. If you do make it, I'll have a few pints waiting for you should you wish to meet up.Stuarty30 wrote:Probably but whoever he fights is gonna be a good earner. He has options. Would love to see LSC in Belfast. I'd definitely be trying my best to get over for that!
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Deffo ma friendCrease wrote:Let me know if you're coming over Stu. If you do make it, I'll have a few pints waiting for you should you wish to meet up.Stuarty30 wrote:Probably but whoever he fights is gonna be a good earner. He has options. Would love to see LSC in Belfast. I'd definitely be trying my best to get over for that!
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The rematch wasn't a close fight. Judges had the same scores for ward vs Froch and that wasn't close. Santa Cruz showed himself the superior fighter. You're only as good as your last fight and Santa Cruz comfortably won the fight. I now believe that he didn't train to the fullest extent the first time around due to his dad etc.
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A 4th fight?!Crease wrote:He also said that if Leo came to Belfast for the 3rd encounter, then he would be happy to go to California for the 4th.
How vile!
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Horse wrote:A 4th fight?!Crease wrote:He also said that if Leo came to Belfast for the 3rd encounter, then he would be happy to go to California for the 4th.
How vile!
