Tarkus wrote:What all these negativity. He cheated, got caught and served the ban. Where is the problem. He was calling out both Quigg and Frampton before the ban. So if he doesnt have a great record that is not from luck of trying. I am sure both of those will continue avoiding him forever. He looks very talented to me and the upcoming fight will show the glimpses of how good he is.
His brother is doing time, so maybe it's for the best he's had this lay off and is easing his way back in. He'll be ready for the big names when his brother gets out.
Tarkus wrote:What all these negativity. He cheated, got caught and served the ban. Where is the problem.
The problem obviously lies in the fact that he cheated, that doesn't sit well with the majority of boxing fans.
Certainly he may have served his sentence but he too must understand that boxing fans may choose other fighters to support and spend their money on.
Lot of boxers have been caught cheating but I dont remember this amount of vile after one serves his punishment. Aforementioned Whyte was banned for PEDs but scarcely anyone ever mentions it. This is a very talented kid, should we condemn him forever for one transgression when he satisfied the requirement of governing body? Everyone suddenly on a high horse one would think this was such a high standard, squeaky clean sport. Ridiculous.
I've seen lots of talk about him being a top talent, but he hasn't really stood out to me. He was losing deep into the fight against James Dickens, and for the most part has beaten up on weak opponents with padded records. Who would you say are the best three guys he's beaten?
I'd like to see them all get no coverage. Galahad, Whyte, Ortiz...
Find Hearn and Smith and Sky and Boxing New's selective demonising of certain boxers and not others a very worrying indication of their view on doping...
Crease wrote:Surprising that he didn't vie for a Super Bantamweight title.
Don't know why he thinks that Featherweight is the right career path for him, he doesn't even strike me as a physically imposing Super Bantam.
wasn't he caught taking that weight cutting steroid? Helps you lose weight and keep muscle. Can't remember the name of it. Probably explains why he's come back from his ban at Featherweight
Marlo Stanfield wrote:wasn't he caught taking that weight cutting steroid? Helps you lose weight and keep muscle.
Well okay, but that doesn't make sense to me considering that muscle weighs heavier than fat.
it's water that a boxer tends to shift when making weight, rather than fat. Stanolozol helps retain strength/muscle without retaining unwanted water. No expert on this but I think that's the jist of it
Marlo Stanfield wrote:wasn't he caught taking that weight cutting steroid? Helps you lose weight and keep muscle.
Well okay, but that doesn't make sense to me considering that muscle weighs heavier than fat.
it's water that a boxer tends to shift when making weight, rather than fat. Stanolozol helps retain strength/muscle without retaining unwanted water. No expert on this but I think that's the jist of it
Tarkus wrote:What all these negativity. He cheated, got caught and served the ban. Where is the problem. He was calling out both Quigg and Frampton before the ban. So if he doesnt have a great record that is not from luck of trying. I am sure both of those will continue avoiding him forever. He looks very talented to me and the upcoming fight will show the glimpses of how good he is.
Is James DeGale ducking Frank Buglioni and David Brophy?
Tarkus wrote:What all these negativity. He cheated, got caught and served the ban. Where is the problem. He was calling out both Quigg and Frampton before the ban. So if he doesnt have a great record that is not from luck of trying. I am sure both of those will continue avoiding him forever. He looks very talented to me and the upcoming fight will show the glimpses of how good he is.
Is James DeGale ducking Frank Buglioni and David Brophy?
No and I did not say they ducked him. But they both did duck Rigo. Fact! And I predict that they will avoid Kid in the future. Lets see if he can beat Agbeko first. If yes then sure as hell he beats Quigg in particular. And looking forward to Framptons heart wrenching story about how he has to feed his children.
Tarkus wrote:What all these negativity. He cheated, got caught and served the ban. Where is the problem. He was calling out both Quigg and Frampton before the ban. So if he doesnt have a great record that is not from luck of trying. I am sure both of those will continue avoiding him forever. He looks very talented to me and the upcoming fight will show the glimpses of how good he is.
Is James DeGale ducking Frank Buglioni and David Brophy?
No and I did not say they ducked him. But they both did duck Rigo. Fact! And I predict that they will avoid Kid in the future. Lets see if he can beat Agbeko first. If yes then sure as hell he beats Quigg in particular. And looking forward to Framptons heart wrenching story about how he has to feed his children.
You said they will continue to avoid him hence you're insinuating they've already been ducking him. Rigorous has nothing to do with this conversation so why bring him up?
I don't care about Frampton's story or quigg but I like them as boxers. However, Galahad does not feature on their radar as they're not fighting at British title level
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Is James DeGale ducking Frank Buglioni and David Brophy?
No and I did not say they ducked him. But they both did duck Rigo. Fact! And I predict that they will avoid Kid in the future. Lets see if he can beat Agbeko first. If yes then sure as hell he beats Quigg in particular. And looking forward to Framptons heart wrenching story about how he has to feed his children.
You said they will continue to avoid him hence you're insinuating they've already been ducking him. Rigorous has nothing to do with this conversation so why bring him up?
I don't care about Frampton's story or quigg but I like them as boxers. However, Galahad does not feature on their radar as they're not fighting at British title level
Avoiding and ducking are to different things. One becomes the other when the challenge is legitimate.
Obviosely Rigo has everything to with it. They have track record of ducking a better skilled and more talented fighter and if Kid Galahad (what an embarrassing name to call a grown man) proves to be such and I think it is likely, especially in the case of Quigg, then I expect the same thing to happen.
Tarkus wrote:
No and I did not say they ducked him. But they both did duck Rigo. Fact! And I predict that they will avoid Kid in the future. Lets see if he can beat Agbeko first. If yes then sure as hell he beats Quigg in particular. And looking forward to Framptons heart wrenching story about how he has to feed his children.
You said they will continue to avoid him hence you're insinuating they've already been ducking him. Rigorous has nothing to do with this conversation so why bring him up?
I don't care about Frampton's story or quigg but I like them as boxers. However, Galahad does not feature on their radar as they're not fighting at British title level
Avoiding and ducking are to different things. One becomes the other when the challenge is legitimate.
Obviosely Rigo has everything to with it. They have track record of ducking a better skilled and more talented fighter and if Kid Galahad (what an embarrassing name to call a grown man) proves to be such and I think it is likely, especially in the case of Quigg, then I expect the same thing to happen.
No they're not it's the same.
I don't agree at all. Lumping quigg and Frampton together and then using one to try and justify it.
The conversation is pretty much pointless as galahad will not make it at their level
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Is James DeGale ducking Frank Buglioni and David Brophy?
No and I did not say they ducked him. But they both did duck Rigo. Fact! And I predict that they will avoid Kid in the future. Lets see if he can beat Agbeko first. If yes then sure as hell he beats Quigg in particular. And looking forward to Framptons heart wrenching story about how he has to feed his children.
You said they will continue to avoid him hence you're insinuating they've already been ducking him. Rigorous has nothing to do with this conversation so why bring him up?
I don't care about Frampton's story or quigg but I like them as boxers. However, Galahad does not feature on their radar as they're not fighting at British title level
When Frampton was European champion Galahad became his mandatory. Frampton gave his belt up along with his Commonwealth and Galahad quickly won them both.
freddydoesdallas wrote:
You said they will continue to avoid him hence you're insinuating they've already been ducking him. Rigorous has nothing to do with this conversation so why bring him up?
I don't care about Frampton's story or quigg but I like them as boxers. However, Galahad does not feature on their radar as they're not fighting at British title level
Avoiding and ducking are to different things. One becomes the other when the challenge is legitimate.
Obviosely Rigo has everything to with it. They have track record of ducking a better skilled and more talented fighter and if Kid Galahad (what an embarrassing name to call a grown man) proves to be such and I think it is likely, especially in the case of Quigg, then I expect the same thing to happen.
No they're not it's the same.
I don't agree at all. Lumping quigg and Frampton together and then using one to try and justify it.
The conversation is pretty much pointless as galahad will not make it at their level
Tarkus wrote:
Avoiding and ducking are to different things. One becomes the other when the challenge is legitimate.
Obviosely Rigo has everything to with it. They have track record of ducking a better skilled and more talented fighter and if Kid Galahad (what an embarrassing name to call a grown man) proves to be such and I think it is likely, especially in the case of Quigg, then I expect the same thing to happen.
No they're not it's the same.
I don't agree at all. Lumping quigg and Frampton together and then using one to try and justify it.
The conversation is pretty much pointless as galahad will not make it at their level
Levels?
Galahad played with Quigg in sparring.
What's the standard saying on here, sparring is sparring, boxing is boxing. You don't win shit sparring
