Let me make you understand old school records, amateur records and pro records

[Jip]

back than boxers were poor, they wanted to make money as soon as possible. the 1930, 1940, 1950, these were tough times, certainly for boxers, who most came from the slums, from poor backgrounds, a lot with no father, no family help, no money. logic sense that they turned pro quick and fought a lot of fights, because every fight meant money and they needed money. thats why the record they had were so blown up with 200, sometimes 300 fights, but when you look closely you see that 50-70 % of the opponents had records like for example 5 wins 10 losses 2 draws, basicly a sparring partner. so from 200 fights, around 140 fights were paid sparring sessions, 60 fights were against real opponents, real pros, with solid record like 29 wins 5 losses.

today. countrys help out boxers, give them money and they want them to win in the olympic games to help bring proudness to their country. in amateurs some have records with 200, sometimes 300 fights, just like the old school boxers had back than. only difference. old school boxers needed money quick and turned pro and had many easy paid sparring sessions that were officialy named pro fights and at amateurs, the countrys like cuba or russia take care fininaciely of the boxers, so there is no need for them to turn pro quick, because things are getting take care of. they get cars, money, gold medalist in russia get like 75.000 euro i remember kovalev saying this, so no need for turning pro quick.

in pros, the difference between pro boxing today and pro boxing in old school times is that, today in professional boxing you dont have paid sparring sessions like you had back than. why? for one, the public doesnt appreciate when a boxer with a 47 wins record fights someone with a 6 wins 13 losses record, for 2 boxers make much more money than in the 20's, 30's. basicly with 2-3 big fights than can have enough money for the rest of their life, if they dont live a mayweather kind of lifestyle. for example timmy, he has 36 fights, which is not much, but he made millions against pac and marquez and with only 36 fights he easily has around 6 millions on his bankaccount, which is enough until the day he days, unless he spends money crazy. had sugar ray robinson get 50 million for fighting floyd, pac or de la hoya, believe me he would have never had all those paid sparring sessions in which he earned like 1000 dollar

so there you have it, i hope i could help and make you understand, why boxers nowadays are amateurs, why old school boxer had so many fights agaisnt easy opponents and why pros today have not so many fights, cause they can make big buck fighting superstar opponents.

[Counter-puncher]

i hope i could help and make you understand

[squiggy]

Can you dumb it down a shade? We're all really, really fornicating stupid.

[Jaywheel]

Thanks for this Almost read the whole topic title.

[Jip]

please, everybody read this, it will you make understand what some (a lot) dont understand.

[TheGingerBomber]

Donald Trump

[man]

... a load off my mind.

[man]

Donald Trump

we will see many of these in the near
future. people will explain the world
to us in unexpected, yet always very
confident ways.

[Impractical Poster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvFvU0ADlwQ

[Badhusker]

Thanks IP I was thinking about chili as well.


Any chance Jip could be Cheppy's retarded brother?

[chinarich]

please, everybody read this, it will you make understand what some (a lot) dont understand.

Should you be allowed internet access?

[Jip]

i made sense. most of you think having 300 + fights means u automaticly above todays fighters and that only old school boxers with many fights are allowed to be called top 10 atg and i tried to make you understand why it aint automaticly true that many fights equal quality. len wickwar had 470 fights, does that make him better, more skilled than lomachenko who only has 8?

now you guys gonne tell me "well wickwar wasnt as skilled as henry armstrong" no i am gonne tell you, sure was armstrong more skilled than wickwar, but the amount of fights didnt have anything to do with armstrong being better than wickwar, armstrong was better than wickwar for the simple reason because he was more athletic, techniquly more well rounded, stronger and faster. skill is quality, not amount of fights. skills bring you wins, not past achievemants. also i tried to make you understand that most fights of old school fighters were paid sparring sesssions, logic that they than had over 200 fights.