Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Has it?

Poll ended at 18 Feb 2017, 06:06

Yes
20
53%
No
18
47%
 
Total votes: 38

nobleart1978
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Re: Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Post by nobleart1978 »

The British title lost its appeal in the late 70s.
The Pearce/Meade/Ferris/Currie era made sure of that.
Joe Bugner could have held that title from when he beat Cooper and defended it until 1984 when he could have fought Bruno if he had been inclined to.
:brick:
WelshJack
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Re: Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Post by WelshJack »

One win at British title level and the guys think they are world class. Should let the likes of Cornish, Sexton, Lewison, Allen, Webb, Gorman, Darch and Ali have some form of knockout tournament as non are with a major promotor so could easily be arranged by Hearn or FW
ElJefe
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Re: Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Post by ElJefe »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQm0hV5hcTc

3:10 "Eddie came up with a line just as we were walking in the press conference, if you're not a world champion right now, you're not really anything."

Talk about devaluing the British title.
TheGingerBomber
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Re: Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Post by TheGingerBomber »

ElJefe wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQm0hV5hcTc

3:10 "Eddie came up with a line just as we were walking in the press conference, if you're not a world champion right now, you're not really anything."

Talk about devaluing the British title.
Hearn's worst statement, I remember him saying that clearly and thinking "you've just had Sean Dodd vs Scott Cardle headline two shows, how dare you insult those guys", just because they're limited! Buglioni/Burton was brilliant! And he's saying there's no room for anyone who doesn't have world ambitions.
ElJefe
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Re: Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Post by ElJefe »

TheGingerBomber wrote:
ElJefe wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQm0hV5hcTc

3:10 "Eddie came up with a line just as we were walking in the press conference, if you're not a world champion right now, you're not really anything."

Talk about devaluing the British title.
Hearn's worst statement, I remember him saying that clearly and thinking "you've just had Sean Dodd vs Scott Cardle headline two shows, how dare you insult those guys", just because they're limited! Buglioni/Burton was brilliant! And he's saying there's no room for anyone who doesn't have world ambitions.
Completely agree. In fairness, towards the back end of last year I do recall him telling Kugan that he wants to do more British title fights. Hope he delivers on it.
bripez
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Re: Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Post by bripez »

nobleart1978 wrote:The British title lost its appeal in the late 70s.
The Pearce/Meade/Ferris/Currie era made sure of that.
Joe Bugner could have held that title from when he beat Cooper and defended it until 1984 when he could have fought Bruno if he had been inclined to.
:brick:
I was going to post the same - you have to go back a few years to the "romantic" era of British Heavyweight boxing.

The likes of Henry Cooper, Billy Walker, Brian London, Joe Erskine, Jack Bodell are still remembered today - but these guys were fighting for the title in the 1960's !

It didn't help when the likes of Frank Bruno didn't even box for the British title - although Lennox did it was clearly just a box-ticker to move quickly on to bigger things.
TheGingerBomber
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Re: Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Post by TheGingerBomber »

ElJefe wrote:
TheGingerBomber wrote:
ElJefe wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQm0hV5hcTc

3:10 "Eddie came up with a line just as we were walking in the press conference, if you're not a world champion right now, you're not really anything."

Talk about devaluing the British title.
Hearn's worst statement, I remember him saying that clearly and thinking "you've just had Sean Dodd vs Scott Cardle headline two shows, how dare you insult those guys", just because they're limited! Buglioni/Burton was brilliant! And he's saying there's no room for anyone who doesn't have world ambitions.
Completely agree. In fairness, towards the back end of last year I do recall him telling Kugan that he wants to do more British title fights. Hope he delivers on it.
Think he'd have all his prospects go the British route if he weren't scared to put them in with proper guys. Mind, it's up to the fighters too!
Crease
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Re: Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Post by Crease »

Naandrew wrote:The silver, Intercontinenal etc what I like to call "toy belts" are the bigger problem.
:TU:

That's definitelty true.

I rememver that Naz used to boost (early on in his career) that he was the "Super Bantamweight Champion of Europe"....

But if a boxer wins the WBC Silver or the WBA International or the WBO Intercontinental title holder, then what exacrly does that mean?
Andrew
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Re: Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Post by Andrew »

Crease wrote:
Naandrew wrote:The silver, Intercontinenal etc what I like to call "toy belts" are the bigger problem.
:TU:

That's definitelty true.

I rememver that Naz used to boost (early on in his career) that he was the "Super Bantamweight Champion of Europe"....

But if a boxer wins the WBC Silver or the WBA International or the WBO Intercontinental title holder, then what exacrly does that mean?
I friend said to me as a fighter looking backwhat sounds better.

" do you remember that night I won the IBF inter continental title"

"Do you remember that night I won the British title."
Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Crease wrote:
Naandrew wrote:The silver, Intercontinenal etc what I like to call "toy belts" are the bigger problem.
:TU:

That's definitelty true.

I rememver that Naz used to boost (early on in his career) that he was the "Super Bantamweight Champion of Europe"....

But if a boxer wins the WBC Silver or the WBA International or the WBO Intercontinental title holder, then what exacrly does that mean?
It's like winning the WBO NABO title and many more. It climbs you up the rankings for the organisation.

E.g. Joe Smith was ranked by no one. He entered the WBC rankings when he beat Fonfara for the WBC (something) title
bripez
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Re: Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Post by bripez »

Naandrew wrote:
Crease wrote:
Naandrew wrote:The silver, Intercontinenal etc what I like to call "toy belts" are the bigger problem.
:TU:

That's definitelty true.

I rememver that Naz used to boost (early on in his career) that he was the "Super Bantamweight Champion of Europe"....

But if a boxer wins the WBC Silver or the WBA International or the WBO Intercontinental title holder, then what exacrly does that mean?
I friend said to me as a fighter looking backwhat sounds better.

" do you remember that night I won the IBF inter continental title"

"Do you remember that night I won the British title."
Ho about "remember the night I won that fight which gave me a top 15 ranking with the WBO"?
WelshJack
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Re: Has the British Heavyweight title lost it's appeal?

Post by WelshJack »

WelshJack wrote:One win at British title level and the guys think they are world class. Should let the likes of Cornish, Sexton, Lewison, Allen, Webb, Gorman, Darch and Ali have some form of knockout tournament as non are with a major promotor so could easily be arranged by Hearn or FW

Well we've got Darch vs Webb...
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