I'd like to see any of these matchups:
Lemieux-Charlo
Lemieux-Eubank
Lemieux-Saunders
Golovkin-Saunders
Canelo-Lemieux
Derevyanchenko-Golovkin
Canelo-Saunders
Canelo-Jacobs
Charlo-Derevyanchenko
Golovkin-Charlo
Golovkin-Eubank
Saunders-Jacobs
Derevyanchenko-Jacobs
Jacobs-Charlo
And then there's undefeated fighters like Ryota Murata, Rob Brant, Immanuwel Aleem, Terrell Gausha and Maciej Sulecki coming up, plus people who have had setbacks like Matt Korobov and Ievgen Khytrov but still have some good fights left in them.
Lots of potentially good match-ups at middleweight
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Freedom2013
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sweetviolenturge
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Re: Lots of potentially good match-ups at middleweight
Yeah, personally, I'd much rather see a bunch of middleweight fights get made & show up on television than the constant group of the same welterweights. After Thurman-Garcia, I'm sick of the welterweights. Some match-ups make for good fights, but the only one that I see coming up that has me interested is Kell Brooks title defense vs Spence.
Re: Lots of potentially good match-ups at middleweight
I enjoyed the Thurman-Garcia fight tremendously... But Thurman was given the wrong advice, just like Oscar De La Hoya was given the wrong advice vs Trinidad "to box smart" because Dan Birmingham thought Keith had 7 rounds sewn up and he could blow it by getting knocked out...
The odds of blowing a lead and getting knocked out because you're staying aggressive are less than 1% -- if you're a really skillful boxer who's already winning the fight on aggression... The odds of pissing off 1 or 2 righteous judges -- who find a way to score the fight for your opponent because they don't like you stalling and sitting on a lead and really would prefer that your opponent win anyway -- is like 25 to 30%.
Since experienced trainers know boxing judging is pretty damned screwed -- I'm always amazed when I hear an experienced coach sound overconfident.
The odds of blowing a lead and getting knocked out because you're staying aggressive are less than 1% -- if you're a really skillful boxer who's already winning the fight on aggression... The odds of pissing off 1 or 2 righteous judges -- who find a way to score the fight for your opponent because they don't like you stalling and sitting on a lead and really would prefer that your opponent win anyway -- is like 25 to 30%.
Since experienced trainers know boxing judging is pretty damned screwed -- I'm always amazed when I hear an experienced coach sound overconfident.
Re: Lots of potentially good match-ups at middleweight
One match-up that you didn't mention that I believe would be great -- but won't happen -- is Eubank-Canelo
Another is Eubank-Saunders 2... I wouldn't miss either.
Another is Eubank-Saunders 2... I wouldn't miss either.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Lots of potentially good match-ups at middleweight
Some good fights listed there, but I suspect only hardcore fans would be excited by those match-ups (barring the casuals that know about GGG).Freedom2013 wrote:I'd like to see any of these matchups:
Lemieux-Charlo
Lemieux-Eubank
Lemieux-Saunders
Golovkin-Saunders
Canelo-Lemieux
Derevyanchenko-Golovkin
Canelo-Saunders
Canelo-Jacobs
Charlo-Derevyanchenko
Golovkin-Charlo
Golovkin-Eubank
Saunders-Jacobs
Derevyanchenko-Jacobs
Jacobs-Charlo
And then there's undefeated fighters like Ryota Murata, Rob Brant, Immanuwel Aleem, Terrell Gausha and Maciej Sulecki coming up, plus people who have had setbacks like Matt Korobov and Ievgen Khytrov but still have some good fights left in them.
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Lots of potentially good match-ups at middleweight
Guys like Golovkin and Lemieux should fight on free TV to promote the sport. Casual fans are attracted by fighting and KOs, not by running with "not getting hit" excuse.
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Freedom2013
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Re: Lots of potentially good match-ups at middleweight
To put that in perspective at heavyweight you have
Wlad-Wilder
Wlad-Parker
Wlad-Ortiz
Joshua-Wilder
Joshua-Parker
Joshua-Ortiz
Joshua-Pulev
Joshua-Povetkin
Joshua-Fury
Wilder-Fury
Wilder-Parker
Wilder-Ortiz
Wilder-Pulev
Ortiz-Povetkin
Ortiz-Parker
Ortiz-Pulev
Ortiz-Fury
Pulev-Povetkin
Pulev-Parker
Povetkin-Parker
Plus Wlad-Joshua happening
And there's undefeated fighted like Jarrel Miller, Hughie Fury, Granat etc.
Wlad-Wilder
Wlad-Parker
Wlad-Ortiz
Joshua-Wilder
Joshua-Parker
Joshua-Ortiz
Joshua-Pulev
Joshua-Povetkin
Joshua-Fury
Wilder-Fury
Wilder-Parker
Wilder-Ortiz
Wilder-Pulev
Ortiz-Povetkin
Ortiz-Parker
Ortiz-Pulev
Ortiz-Fury
Pulev-Povetkin
Pulev-Parker
Povetkin-Parker
Plus Wlad-Joshua happening
And there's undefeated fighted like Jarrel Miller, Hughie Fury, Granat etc.
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Boxing Prospect
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Re: Lots of potentially good match-ups at middleweight
...and to put that into perspective at Super Flyweight you have (and this far from an extensive list)BitPlayer wrote:To put that in perspective at heavyweight you have
Wlad-Wilder
Wlad-Parker
Wlad-Ortiz
Joshua-Wilder
Joshua-Parker
Joshua-Ortiz
Joshua-Pulev
Joshua-Povetkin
Joshua-Fury
Wilder-Fury
Wilder-Parker
Wilder-Ortiz
Wilder-Pulev
Ortiz-Povetkin
Ortiz-Parker
Ortiz-Pulev
Ortiz-Fury
Pulev-Povetkin
Pulev-Parker
Povetkin-Parker
Plus Wlad-Joshua happening
And there's undefeated fighted like Jarrel Miller, Hughie Fury, Granat etc.
Inoue vs Gonzalez
Inoue vs Srisaket
Inoue vs Estrada
Inoue vs Cuadras
Inoue vs Casimero
Inoue vs Ancajas
Inoue vs Yafai
Gonzalez vs Estrada 2
Gonzalez vs Cuadras 2
Gonzales Vs Casimero
Gonzalez vs Ancajas
Gonzalez vs Yafai
Yafai vs Estrada
Yafai vs Cuadras
Yafai vs Ishida
Yafai vs Conlan
Yafai vs Casimero
Yafai vs Ancajas
Ancajas vs Casimero
Ancajas vs Estrada
Ancajas vs Cuadras
Casimero vs Estrada
Caaimero vs Cuadras
Tso vs Conlan
And we have Gonzalez vs Srisaket booked