Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

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No Doubt Valero at Lightweight would beat (X) at their mutual LW best.

Duran
3
8%
Benny Leonard
4
10%
Chavez
4
10%
Whitaker
3
8%
Camacho
4
10%
Nazarov
5
13%
Gans
4
10%
Ortiz
4
10%
Arguello
4
10%
Armstrong
4
10%
 
Total votes: 39

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Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

Post by BoxBuzz »

Well, I read right here on the forum, someone postulate that he may well have been the "best of the best" in this division.

So...it occurred to me to gather some sample opinions to see if that is a plausible consideration, or just a fantasy outlier.

So...I'm asking YOUR opinion......Could he have beaten ANY of these fighters?

If so...just place your check mark on the fighter/s that you think Valero would KO...since that's all he every did.

Oh ok...if you think he would win by decision....go ahead and give him credit.

This is not necessarily the top 10....just a list of very very good LW's.

And.....if you want to change your vote in the future.....I've left that option open.....

I have placed a check on every fighter on this list I think he would beat......and that would be NADA.

I am curious to see the outcome.
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Re: Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

Post by Counter-puncher »

No idea why Nazarov is in there but he might be one of the twenty or thirty lightweights I'd pick to beat Valero, so why not him too
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Re: Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

They all beat him handily. Mancini would have destroyed Valero.
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Post by Tomasino »

another thread to get Kalan posting again :doh:

All of those batter him senseless btw, even Nazarov, who I watched on Eurosport a lot.
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Re: Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

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Really needs a none of the above option to make your point Buzz

Your tragically sad Kalan obsessed point
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Re: Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

Post by BoxBuzz »

Unique points of view don't anger me, they make me curious.

Seems Kalan has chimed in....or many people have chimed in with their single choice.

However currently every opponent has a single vote.......

I designed it to have some fun......and to sample opinion.

Apologies to those who dropped in just to complain about the concept......perhaps you can find better reading elsewhere on the forum? But nevertheless thanks for contributing to this thread that is otherwise beneath you.
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Re: Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

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Thanks for this wonderful contribution to the forum.
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That's the spirit!
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Re: Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

Post by APerno »

Any videos of Valero available?
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Re: Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

Post by elmersalsa »

He is beating the great Roberto Duran twice? May be at 154 or 160lbs.

At lightweight? I can't see it. Edwin Valero wasn't that good.
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Post by BoxBuzz »

Since no one is backing it up in the discussion, I think we can ascertain that it is a humorous response.
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Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

APerno wrote:Any videos of Valero available?
None of him in credible fights. DeMarco isn't a total second rater, but he certainly doesn't move you to alltime status. His best fight was Mosquera.
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Re: Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

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Valero beats none of these Lightweights. There's many more you could name he wouldn't have beaten either.
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Re: Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

Post by HyacinthusTurnipseed »

I don't think I'd fancy his chances against the "at their best" versions of Juan Diaz, Robert Guerrero or Adrien Broner to be honest, never mind any of this list of greats (and Nazarov). Current fighters like Lomachenko, M Garcia or Barthelemy would consider Valero nothing more than breakfast.
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HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote:I don't think I'd fancy his chances against the "at their best" versions of Juan Diaz, Robert Guerrero or Adrien Broner to be honest, never mind any of this list of greats (and Nazarov). Current fighters like Lomachenko, M Garcia or Barthelemy would consider Valero nothing more than breakfast.
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Re: Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

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Looks to me like unowho may have voted 3 times....and maybe a couple of people have never heard of Nazarov, or never seen him fight.
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Re: Edwin Valero....."Lightweight" of all the lightweight champions?

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I figure Duran might beat Valero and maybe Mosley had the ghost of a chance... EV beats all others especially Armstrong who ate everything thrown at him until he could barely move -- and then quit in his corner... Did Armstrong beat Beau Jack or Ray Robinson??? That's a serious question for inquiring minds... Those 2 started at Featherweight and Lightweight respectively and beat the turds out of Armstrong for some reason.. For instance -- Beau Jack beat Fritzie Zivic twice in a row (in contrast to Zivic beating Armstrong twice in a row) and then he beat the living crap out of Armstrong.

Musta been because Armstrong was so damned easy to hit and Valero wasn't.. EV didn't walk in with his face hanging out.
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