Joe Frazier vs. Sonny Liston

Mr Pickalini · Post by **Mr Pickalini** » 06 Apr 2003, 23:37

I think this would be a great slugfest to watch. Who wins?

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 07 Apr 2003, 05:45

wouter · Post by **wouter** » 07 Apr 2003, 06:43

No way you could beat Liston by standing toe-to-toe with him

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 07 Apr 2003, 07:28

That's a joke, Foreman would have beat his ass so bad and you know it. Frazier too.

wouter · Post by **wouter** » 07 Apr 2003, 07:37

In fact it would pretty much resemble Frazier vs. Foreman

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 08 Apr 2003, 00:46

the one most effective weapon against Frazier was the right uppercut and that's a punch Liston didn't really have. He was a smarter fighter than given credit for, though,and it's hard to believe he wouldn't have worked on it. Plus, as others here have said, to come at him in his prime (and how many of us really saw him then?) was an invitation to end up in traction. Liston by a kayo. Shorter and at least as powerful a left hook, and harder to counter with an inside punch.

Dickhead · Post by **Dickhead** » 09 Apr 2003, 04:29

I figured some of you would compare a Liston-Frazier matchup to the Foreman-Frazier fight. That result would not be repeated in this scenario. First of all, Foreman pushed Joe away, a tactic which was illegal and would not be allowed in most other circumstances. Secondly, the uppercut is the weapon of record which Foreman used against Joe. Big George has outstanding uppercuts, Liston didn't.

Frazier would get inside the jab of Liston and work the body & head. He would be busier than Sonny, and be able to take control. I score a KO for Smokin Joe.

Vetteguy99 · Post by **Vetteguy99** » 19 May 2003, 01:54

Oscar Bonavena gave Frazier fits and he was no Sonny. Sonny in 5.

Mr Pickalini · Post by **Mr Pickalini** » 19 May 2003, 23:04

Vetteguy99 wrote:Oscar Bonavena gave Frazier fits and he was no Sonny. Sonny in 5.

Well, Norton gave Ali fits and he was no George Foreman, but Ali beat Foreman.

Vetteguy99 · Post by **Vetteguy99** » 20 May 2003, 19:25

Mr. P makes a good point, but I still like George in this one.

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jaafar · Post by **jaafar** » 24 May 2003, 06:32

Frazier will win

jaafar · Post by **jaafar** » 24 May 2003, 06:33

frazier's punching power is too powerful

Keats · Post by **Keats** » 24 May 2003, 06:34

When he was know as Clay he was so much better Hussein!!!

DLH=Chicken · Post by **DLH=Chicken** » 05 Jun 2003, 22:23

Liston by early KO. Fraizer's pressure style would get him killed against Liston like it did against Foreman.

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 04 Sep 2003, 18:10

THe fact that dear old Joe was a slow starter would have proved fatal, when combined with the fact that he got caught early in fights, until he got he head movement going.

Talk about styles making fights, Liston KO 1.

Marciano Frazier · Post by **Marciano Frazier** » 06 Sep 2003, 17:19

:x ARGHHH!!!!! Whenever Frazier faces a hard puncher in a hypothetical fight, everyone always instnatly shouts "It would be like Foreman-Frazier!". Frazier lost so badly to Foreman because STYLES MAKE FIGHTS. Because Frazier lost to Foreman, he therefore loses to everyone else in the same way? NOOOOOOO!!!! It's just friggin' not true. Foreman was a much faster starter than Liston, and had some of the best uppercuts of anyone ever. Both of those things were stylistic traits that made Foreman perfet for beating Frazier. Liston DID NOT HAVE THESE TRAITS. Frazier would wear Liston down and knock him out in 10.

Joe Frazier vs. Sonny Liston

Joe Frazier vs. Sonny Liston

Joe Frazier v Sonny Liston