The FLYWEIGHT game: *GAME CLOSED*

[Crease]

Our penultimate thread in the series, following the success of the Heavyweight, Light Heavyweight, Middleweight, Welterweight, Lightweight, Featherweight & Bantamweight threads...

This is a game which will be decided by the wisdom of the crowd.

Each of us has our own opinions on who was better than who, or which achievement was greater than others.
But let's bring it all together and allow simple mathematics to decide it all.

The game is this, each poster names and ranks his Top 10 Flyweights of all time and with each ranking comes a certain number of points.
First place gets 10 points, tenth place gets 1 point - and everything fits in between.

Posters are NOT allowed to edit their posts or change their minds as it will effect the overall accumulated points for each fighter.

I will keep a track of the total scoring each time I'm online. This game has a 30-day deadline, after 30 days - the final points totals will be decided.
Our deadline day will be May 1st.

13 Posters declared:
HyacinthusTurnipseed
wsbuf
elmersalsa
scartissue
Give up
Seamus
SaadOffTheDeck
crl333
Keko
davie
Tomasino
Crease
BroughtonRulesRefuge



FINAL Scoreboard: (13 Members have voted)

1st - 122 pts Jimmy Wilde
2nd - 92 pts Pascual Perez
3rd - 91 pts Pancho Villa
4th - 63 pts Benny Lynch
5th - 61 pts Fidel LaBarba
6th - 58 pts Miguel Canto
7th - 35 pts Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
8th - 33 pts Frankie Genaro
9th - 18 pts Newsboy Brown
10th - 17 pts Peter Kane

Tied 11th - 16 pts Santos Laciar
Tied 11th - 16 pts Jimmy Barry
13th - 14 pts Pone Kingpetch
14th - 13 pts Venice Borkhorsor
15th - 12 pts Horacio Accavallo
16th - 9 pts Betulio Gonzalez
Tied 17th - 8 pts Midget Wolgast
Tied 17th - 8 pts Masao Ohba
19th - 6 pts Ricardo Lopez
Tied 20th - 5 pts Emil Pladner
Tied 20th - 5 pts Rinty Monaghan
22nd - 4 pts Jackie Paterson
23rd - 3 pts Chartchai Chionoi
Tied 24th - 2 pts Shoji Oguma
Tied 24th - 2 pts Small Montana
Tied 26th - 1 pts Hiroyuki Ebihara
Tied 26th - 1 pts Dado Marino

[Crease]

I've started this thread VERY late (8th April) - as such, to make up for the lost time I will PM the 14 members who gave their lists on the previous thread, to make them aware that this game is up and running.

[Crease]

Private Mails have now been sent to all 13 Members of the previous thread as can be seen below (excluding myself of course)

scartissue
APerno
Give up
davie
Keko
elmersalsa
Seamus
HyacinthusTurnipseed
crl333
Tomasino
BroughtonRulesRefuge
SaadOffTheDeck
Ambling Alp II

[davie]

I've started this thread VERY late (8th April) - as such, to make up for the lost time I will PM the 14 members who gave their lists on the previous thread, to make them aware that this game is up and running.

Everybody moaned a month was too long anyway.

If they can't figure it out in 3 weeks there's something wrong

[HyacinthusTurnipseed]

I might as well get things started as I already put together a tentative list a couple of days ago:

1. Jimmy Wilde
2. Miguel Canto
3. Pancho Villa
4. Pascual Perez
5. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
6. Benny Lynch
7. Santos Laciar
8. Betulio Gonzalez
9. Shoji Oguma
10. Masao Ohba

[wsbuf]

Jimmy Wilde
Benny Lynch
Fidel Labarba
Pascal Perez
Pongsaklet Wonjongkam
Midget Wolgast
Frankie Genero
Emil Pladner
Pancho Villa
Santo Laciar

[elmersalsa]

1. Jimmy Wilde
2. Pascual Perez
3. Fidel La Barba
4. Miguel Canto
5. Pancho Villa
6. Benny Lynch
7. Masao Ohba
8. Horacio Accavallo
9. Small Montana
10. Pone Kingpetch

[scartissue]

1) Venice Borkorsor
2) Horacio Accavallo
3) Miguel Canto
4) Pascual Perez
5) Betulio Gonzalez
6) Jimmy Wilde
7) Pone Kingpetch
8) Chartchai Chionoi
9) Benny Lynch
10) Peter Kane

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I can't believe nobody rates newsboy brown.

[Give up]

Jimmy Wilde
Pancho Villa
Miguel Canto
Benny Lynch
Pascqual Perez
Peter Kane
Pone Kingpetch
Frankie Genero
Fidel LaBarba
Newsboy Brown

[Tomasino]

I can't believe nobody rates newsboy brown.

I'd never heard of him till a few years ago you brought him up on the forum. Some huge wins on his resume.

[Tomasino]

Jimmy Wilde
Benny Lynch
Fidel Labarba
Pascal Perez
Pongsaklet Wonjongkam
Midget Wolgast
Frankie Genero
Emil Pladner
Pancho Villa
Santo Laciar

Wow, high praise indeed for Lynch.

[HyacinthusTurnipseed]

I can't believe nobody rates newsboy brown.

He was super close for me. Ahead of the likes of LaBarba, Genaro, M Wolgast and Pladner; could and probably should have had him over Ohba and Oguma thinking about it. Good for the weight longer than the former and more consistent than the latter (especially given his era). Rating Canto highly pushed up those other guys with him though right or wrong.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I can't believe nobody rates newsboy brown.

He was super close for me. Ahead of the likes of LaBarba, Genaro, M Wolgast and Pladner; could and probably should have had him over Ohba and Oguma thinking about it. Good for the weight longer than the former and more consistent than the latter (especially given his era). Rating Canto highly pushed up those other guys with him though right or wrong.

I don't have him ahead of labarba, but they're both top 3 for me.

[Seamus]

I.Jimmy Wilde
2.Pascual Perez
3.Pancho Villa
4.Frankie Genaro
5.Santos Laciar
6.Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
7.Miguel Canto
8.Benny Lynch
9.Emile Pladner
10.Hiroyuki Ebihara

[SaadOffTheDeck]

1. Villa
2. Labarba
3. newsboy Brown
4. Wilde
5. Perez
6. lacier
7. Genaro
8. Wolgast
9. Barry
10. Canto

[davie]

I can't believe nobody rates newsboy brown.

Then the next post

Jimmy Wilde
Pancho Villa
Miguel Canto
Benny Lynch
Pascqual Perez
Peter Kane
Pone Kingpetch
Frankie Genero
Fidel LaBarba
Newsboy Brown

That's about where I've got him

[davie]

Jimmy Wilde
Benny Lynch
Fidel Labarba
Pascal Perez
Pongsaklet Wonjongkam
Midget Wolgast
Frankie Genero
Emil Pladner
Pancho Villa
Santo Laciar

Wow, high praise indeed for Lynch.

That's exactly where he deserves to be in my biased opinion

[Crease]

Rinty Monaghan will be on my list.

[Keko]

Rinty Monaghan will be on my list.

He has his first fight with 12 years

[crl333]

1. Wilde
2. Villa
3. Perez
4. La Barba
5. Canto
6. Lynch
7. Newsboy
8. Ohba
9. Genaro
10. Barry

[Keko]

1.Jimmy Wilde
2.Pancho Villa
3.Miguel Canto
4.Benny Lynch
5.Fidel LaBarba
6.Pascal Perez
7.Frankie Genaro
8.Pongasklet Wonjongam
9.Peter Kane
10.Newsboy Brown

[Crease]

I'm making the update as we speak, some interesting results thus far.

[Crease]

1st update:

CURRENT Scoreboard: (09 Members have voted)

1st - 81 pts Jimmy Wilde
2nd - 64 pts Pascual Perez
3rd - 61 pts Pancho Villa
4th - 51 pts Miguel Canto
5th - 43 pts Benny Lynch
6th - 40 pts Fidel LaBarba
7th - 24 pts Frankie Genaro
8th - 20 pts Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
9th - 16 pts Santos Laciar
10th - 14 pts Newsboy Brown

11th - 12 pts Horacio Accavallo
12th - 10 pts Venice Borkorsor
Tied 13th - 9 pts Betulio Gonzalez
Tied 13th - 9 pts Pone Kingpetch
Tied 15th - 8 pts Midget Wolgast
Tied 15th - 8 pts Masao Ohba
Tied 15th - 8 pts Peter Kane
18th - 5 pts Emil Pladner
Tied 19th - 3 pts Chartchai Chionoi
Tied 19th - 3 pts Jimmy Barry
Tied 21st - 2 pts Shoji Oguma
Tied 21st - 2 pts Small Montana
23rd - 1 pts Hiroyuki Ebihara

[davie]

I posted a list on the 8th, or at least I thought I had.

Think it looked something like this

1. Jimmy Wilde
2. Pascual Perez
3. Benny Lynch
4. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
5. Miguel Canto
6. Pone Kingpetch
7. Pancho Villa
8. Peter Kane
9. Newsboy Brown
10. Jackie Patterson

2 Scots and 4 UK based fighter in total, tells me I've gone for what I have knowledge of and could perhaps have over looked the likes of Laciar and Labarba who always make these lists.
I had a look at them, but I suppose it feels that I would just be trying to talk myself into including guys because everyone else did.