A woman can't help being a woman, a homosexual can't help being a homosexual - see where we are going with this?Horse wrote:A Scouser can't help being a Scouser. An Asian can't help being an Asian.Fat Git wrote:Well, explain why...
What's the difference?
Is Bellew the most deluded/annoying boxer of recent times
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el_grande_mauro_mina
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Where are you going with this?Fat Git wrote:A woman can't help being a woman, a homosexual can't help being a homosexual - see where we are going with this?
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el_grande_mauro_mina
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There is no difference of Anti-Scouse abuse to any other kind of abuse, such as sexism, homophobia or secterianism - because Scousers aren't a ethnicity - the usual comparison of anti-scouse barbs to racism is redundant, or as redundant as anti-scouse barbs are to sexism or homophobia or sectarianism.Horse wrote:Where are you going with this?Fat Git wrote:A woman can't help being a woman, a homosexual can't help being a homosexual - see where we are going with this?
Now, I open this question to any scouser reading this.
If someone from St Helens or Runcorn stated in a hurt voice that you calling them a wool is 'like racism against Asians' what would you say to them?
You would call them a 'soft get wool' that's what you would call them.
Because that's just good old, light hearted joshing, but when scousers get return fire, it's comparable to racism
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Some crap banter about being Asian seems about the same as some crap banter about being from St Helens.Fat Git wrote:There is no difference of Anti-Scouse abuse to any other kind of abuse, such as sexism, homophobia or secterianism - because Scousers aren't a ethnicity - the usual comparison of anti-scouse barbs to racism is redundant, or as redundant as anti-scouse barbs are to sexism or homophobia or sectarianism.
Now, I open this question to any scouser reading this.
If someone from St Helens or Runcorn stated in a hurt voice that you calling them a wool is 'like racism against Asians' what would you say to them?
You would call them a 'soft get wool' that's what you would call them.![]()
Because that's just good old, light hearted joshing, but when scousers get return fire, it's comparable to racism![]()
I can't stand any of that garbage.
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el_grande_mauro_mina
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All right, what about some crap banter about being from Liverpool?Horse wrote:Some crap banter about being Asian seems about the same as some crap banter about being from St Helens.
I can't stand any of that garbage.
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The same thing.Fat Git wrote:All right, what about some crap banter about being from Liverpool?
You find out where someone is from, their race and their sexuality and you tell some generic jokes referring to those things.
All very crap.
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No, it's not generic, the Scouse generally get picked on because of their disproportionate love of their nans.Horse wrote:The same thing.Fat Git wrote:All right, what about some crap banter about being from Liverpool?
You find out where someone is from, their race and their sexuality and you tell some generic jokes referring to those things.
All very crap.
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And their predilection for claiming social security payments rather than working
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CaptainSpacerod
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And revelling in any perceived misfortune that befalls them as it gives them a chance to play their "victim card"
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CaptainSpacerod
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Re: Is Bellew the most deluded/annoying boxer of recent times
And their penchant for wearing shellsuits
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Calm down, our kid...CaptainSpacerod wrote:And their penchant for wearing shellsuits
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I never heard any of the 'scouters playing victim cards' stuff before Hillsborough. Very odd the way some people are about a genuine tragedy like that. Had the same thing happened to Aston Villa, or Spurs, or Newcastle I'm sure we'd hear the same cranks talking about grief merchant brummies, cockneys, geordies.
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Neither are Muslims but it's still wrong to abuse them.Fat Git wrote:That's not true, is it? Tyson Fury comes for as much abuse and he isn't a scouser, I don't think that has any bearing on it at all to be honest.Vincent stevenson wrote: The easy take on this site seems to be very anti liverpool and if he was an asian and recieved so much abuse it would be considered racist.
Scousers aren't a race by the way, any abuse towards Liverpudlians cannot be compared to racist abuse towards Asians.
And yes there is an anti-Liverpool feeling on this board.
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el_grande_mauro_mina
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Re: Is Bellew the most deluded/annoying boxer of recent times
Tyson Fury and Robin Deakin scousers?banjo wrote:Neither are Muslims but it's still wrong to abuse them.Fat Git wrote:That's not true, is it? Tyson Fury comes for as much abuse and he isn't a scouser, I don't think that has any bearing on it at all to be honest.Vincent stevenson wrote: The easy take on this site seems to be very anti liverpool and if he was an asian and recieved so much abuse it would be considered racist.
Scousers aren't a race by the way, any abuse towards Liverpudlians cannot be compared to racist abuse towards Asians.
And yes there is an anti-Liverpool feeling on this board.
They probably get as much abuse Bellew. And there are a lot of scouse boxers who get no abuse at all.
Again - if a wool said to some piss taking scouser 'it's like racism' because you're calling us woolybacks, what would the scouser say?
It would never be 'Oh sorry I hurt your feelings...'
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I don't think anyone has a problem with standard jokes about scousers, cockneys and so on.
But I think people from Liverpool understandably have an issue with accusations of all scousers being grief-merchant professional victims, which seems to stem entirely from the Hillsborough disaster and subsequent campaign for justice.
But I think people from Liverpool understandably have an issue with accusations of all scousers being grief-merchant professional victims, which seems to stem entirely from the Hillsborough disaster and subsequent campaign for justice.
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Re: Is Bellew the most deluded/annoying boxer of recent times
Daffy Duck and Wilder are both obviously more deluded, or at least act like they think they are, both of them their talks don't make sense, unlike Bellew his btw.
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I do.dirk2686 wrote:I don't think anyone has a problem with standard jokes about scousers, cockneys and so on.
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Why? Are you a Cockney or a Scouser?Horse wrote:I do.dirk2686 wrote:I don't think anyone has a problem with standard jokes about scousers, cockneys and so on.