WHO is the Most Pathetic Current World Champion?

[asdfjkl]

• Deontay Wilder had agreed to face his mandatory challenger, but Alexander Povetkin failed a drug test. Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko were inactive for 18 months and Eddie Hearn has never attempted to make a fight between 'The Bronze Bomber' and Anthony Joshua. Apart from the Klitschko victory, AJ's resume is similar in calibre to Wilder's.

If you do your research, every single sentence that I’ve written is factually correct. Therefore, where's the "none of them" option?

Hold on, Wilder knew beforehand that Povetkin had Meldonium in his body, which was perfectly allowed at the time and Povetkin turned out to be 100% innocent when it came to breaking any rules; as expected. Wilder denied any contract before he knew he could avoid the fight. In other words, Wilder never intended to fight. That's also why he was out of shape, never been in Russia and even celebrating holiday with his friends and family in England.

asdfjkl - how can you still be banging on about this? Despite having the whole scenario explained to you in great detail, you're still peddling the same nonsense. Povetkin tested positive for a Meldonium. They could not enforce a ban until the excretion trials were complete. VADA/WADA could still impose a ban on Povetkin.

Meldonium used to be allowed, just like drinking a cup of coffee and using an aspirine, otherwise Povetkin wouldn't hace taken it on doctors advice.

[asdfjkl]

You wrote "The Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit notes (obtainable from the MMA Payout website) addresses the rest of the claims that you have made. It might take you quite some time to read them though, since they're quite lengthy documents.

I believe that when you’ve read this documentation, you’ll probably feel inclined to revise your opinion, but if you choose not to – then it’s pointless for us to continue this discussion."
In other words, you assume that the result of the lawsuit has to be true, which it obviously isn't, that's why I showed that the American lawsuits don't make any sense, the judges don't care about facts, reality, or about justice, they just helped the American and hurt the innocent Russian.
That's just the way it is and that's why I showed their word doesn't make sense. If you now say you don't want to talk about that discussion then that's oke, but then don't use anything they said to defend yourself. They are wrong as well and you know that very well.

Why won't you stick to the topic of the thread?

Well, perhaps I do? :s This topic is about the most pathatic world champion out there, most forumusers voted for Deontay Wilder and the ones who didn't are obviously wrong... I'm talking about Wilder and about the reasons why he's obviously the most pathatic world champion out there from start till end?!

[Rob3_142]

Hold on, Wilder knew beforehand that Povetkin had Meldonium in his body, which was perfectly allowed at the time and Povetkin turned out to be 100% innocent when it came to breaking any rules; as expected. Wilder denied any contract before he knew he could avoid the fight. In other words, Wilder never intended to fight. That's also why he was out of shape, never been in Russia and even celebrating holiday with his friends and family in England.

asdfjkl - how can you still be banging on about this? Despite having the whole scenario explained to you in great detail, you're still peddling the same nonsense. Povetkin tested positive for a Meldonium. They could not enforce a ban until the excretion trials were complete. VADA/WADA could still impose a ban on Povetkin.

Meldonium used to be allowed, just like drinking a cup of coffee and using an aspirine, otherwise Povetkin wouldn't hace taken it on doctors advice.

Aspirin and caffeine are not banned substances. How is this relevant?

[Butterbean]

ginger girl. clear #1

[gilgamesh]

ginger girl. clear #1

Are you referring to Canelo? If so, I'd say any reason to be seeing him as one of the most pathetic World Champions has now ended since he's agreed to fight Golovkin.

[crusader]

No chance it's Canelo when someone like Adonis is around

Despite still being a champ he's pretty much become an afterthought at LHW. Though, I will say, at least he fights; Gary Russell has only had one bout in the last 26 months!

[verlichte]

You wrote "The Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit notes (obtainable from the MMA Payout website) addresses the rest of the claims that you have made. It might take you quite some time to read them though, since they're quite lengthy documents.

I believe that when you’ve read this documentation, you’ll probably feel inclined to revise your opinion, but if you choose not to – then it’s pointless for us to continue this discussion."
In other words, you assume that the result of the lawsuit has to be true, which it obviously isn't, that's why I showed that the American lawsuits don't make any sense, the judges don't care about facts, reality, or about justice, they just helped the American and hurt the innocent Russian.
That's just the way it is and that's why I showed their word doesn't make sense. If you now say you don't want to talk about that discussion then that's oke, but then don't use anything they said to defend yourself. They are wrong as well and you know that very well.

Why won't you stick to the topic of the thread?

Well, perhaps I do? :s This topic is about the most pathatic world champion out there, most forumusers voted for Deontay Wilder and the ones who didn't are obviously wrong... I'm talking about Wilder and about the reasons why he's obviously the most pathatic world champion out there from start till end?!

You were talking about the American justice system FFS! You're one strange dude!

[Wales]

3. Lee The Invisible Man Selby.

Harsh as he was ready to weigh in to fight Barros when fight was called off as Barros didn't meet license conditions. IBF have said Selby MUST fight Barros next too, which must be a kick in the teeth as there's far bigger fights out there for him

[Tanzio]

3. Lee The Invisible Man Selby.

Harsh as he was ready to weigh in to fight Barros when fight was called off as Barros didn't meet license conditions. IBF have said Selby MUST fight Barros next too, which must be a kick in the teeth as there's far bigger fights out there for him

Hey, I like what I have seen of Selby. I just don't get why he can't establish traction. Maybe screw the damned belt and go after the money shots.

[Wales]

3. Lee The Invisible Man Selby.

Harsh as he was ready to weigh in to fight Barros when fight was called off as Barros didn't meet license conditions. IBF have said Selby MUST fight Barros next too, which must be a kick in the teeth as there's far bigger fights out there for him

Hey, I like what I have seen of Selby. I just don't get why he can't establish traction. Maybe screw the damned belt and go after the money shots.

Don't think it helps that he's boxing as a feee agent so no promoter.

Also, never been built up so doesn't have a huge fan base in the U.K.

His brother Andrew is the more talented of the two imo . He's 8-0 as a flyweight and has a WBC eliminator on May 26th. However at 28 he's no spring chicken so is rightly moving along quickly.

[asdfjkl]

asdfjkl - how can you still be banging on about this? Despite having the whole scenario explained to you in great detail, you're still peddling the same nonsense. Povetkin tested positive for a Meldonium. They could not enforce a ban until the excretion trials were complete. VADA/WADA could still impose a ban on Povetkin.

Meldonium used to be allowed, just like drinking a cup of coffee and using an aspirine, otherwise Povetkin wouldn't hace taken it on doctors advice.

Aspirin and caffeine are not banned substances. How is this relevant?

They both have far more positive effects for a boxer you can easely use them as doping, so why aren't they banned while Meldonium is? Oh wait, then Americans would be banned all day, they want Russians to be banned, not Americans.

[asdfjkl]

The Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit blablablabla

You were talking about the American justice system FFS! You're one strange dude!

[ClivePatrickLyons]

canelo

[verlichte]

The Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit blablablabla

You were talking about the American justice system FFS! You're one strange dude!

FFS! I only mentioned the Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit notes because you actually brought the subject up in the first place and were talking so much pure utter rancid vile búllshít that I decided to supply you with a source of information that would help to educate yourself on the matter.

I’m enjoying how your trolling is actually backfiring to the point that you’re making yourself look ridiculous.

[Rob3_142]

Meldonium used to be allowed, just like drinking a cup of coffee and using an aspirine, otherwise Povetkin wouldn't hace taken it on doctors advice.

Aspirin and caffeine are not banned substances. How is this relevant?

They both have far more positive effects for a boxer you can easely use them as doping, so why aren't they banned while Meldonium is? Oh wait, then Americans would be banned all day, they want Russians to be banned, not Americans.

The benefits of aspirin and caffeine are nominal in comparison to meldonium. I have sent the sources indicating this before.

[asdfjkl]

The Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit blablablabla

You were talking about the American justice system FFS! You're one strange dude!

FFS! I only mentioned the Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit notes because you actually brought the subject up in the first place and were talking so much pure utter rancid vile búllshít that I decided to supply you with a source of information that would help to educate yourself on the matter.

I’m enjoying how your trolling is actually backfiring to the point that you’re making yourself look ridiculous.

The lawsuit should have protected Povetkin shouldn't it? All facts proof that Povetkin his story was 100% accurate, despite he didn't even need to do, he predicted it before the final results were known at that time. If he lied, there would only be a very small chance his story would still fit, but it did, his story was confirmed by science. I had the feeling you were trying to use the Americans their fails to protect your own comments, knowing that the Americans were wrong again. As we all know, Povetkin is innocent.

[asdfjkl]

Aspirin and caffeine are not banned substances. How is this relevant?

They both have far more positive effects for a boxer you can easely use them as doping, so why aren't they banned while Meldonium is? Oh wait, then Americans would be banned all day, they want Russians to be banned, not Americans.

The benefits of aspirin and caffeine are nominal in comparison to meldonium. I have sent the sources indicating this before.

As far as I know caffeïne helps much more as Meldonium, but if you can proof else, please show me!

[Rob3_142]

They both have far more positive effects for a boxer you can easely use them as doping, so why aren't they banned while Meldonium is? Oh wait, then Americans would be banned all day, they want Russians to be banned, not Americans.

The benefits of aspirin and caffeine are nominal in comparison to meldonium. I have sent the sources indicating this before.

As far as I know caffeïne helps much more as Meldonium, but if you can proof else, please show me!

'As far as I know....' pretty much sums it all.

Here is the link to a study which highlights the sporting benefits of meldonium, a metabolic modulator:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 4616300473

Here is another link, this time to a study which highlights the sporting benefits of caffaine, an ergogenic aid.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8a99/7 ... 7f02b1.pdf

It is determined that there is an insignificant increase in endurance performance of around 3-4%, but with the maximal benefits occurring on small to moderate doses, which are well within the normal daily caffeine intakes of the general population. I think the exclusion of caffeine from the banned list is a pragmatic choice.

[Butterbean]

ginger girl. clear #1

Are you referring to Canelo? If so, I'd say any reason to be seeing him as one of the most pathetic World Champions has now ended since he's agreed to fight Golovkin.

u know who i am refering to. of course. the biggest disgrace in boxing ever. An dthe MOST pathetic champ in history of boxing. a 160 pound champ that refuses to fight the best, fight at lower weights and only faces completeli drained opponents !

'Yes, ginger. most pathetic champ. now end ever !

[asdfjkl]

The benefits of aspirin and caffeine are nominal in comparison to meldonium. I have sent the sources indicating this before.

As far as I know caffeïne helps much more as Meldonium, but if you can proof else, please show me!

'As far as I know....' pretty much sums it all.

Here is the link to a study which highlights the sporting benefits of meldonium, a metabolic modulator:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 4616300473

Here is another link, this time to a study which highlights the sporting benefits of caffaine, an ergogenic aid.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8a99/7 ... 7f02b1.pdf

It is determined that there is an insignificant increase in endurance performance of around 3-4%, but with the maximal benefits occurring on small to moderate doses, which are well within the normal daily caffeine intakes of the general population. I think the exclusion of caffeine from the banned list is a pragmatic choice.

So even there it's obvious that cafeïne makes you perform way better, as I said...

[gilgamesh]

ginger girl. clear #1

Are you referring to Canelo? If so, I'd say any reason to be seeing him as one of the most pathetic World Champions has now ended since he's agreed to fight Golovkin.

u know who i am refering to. of course. the biggest disgrace in boxing ever. An dthe MOST pathetic champ in history of boxing. a 160 pound champ that refuses to fight the best, fight at lower weights and only faces completeli drained opponents !

'Yes, ginger. most pathetic champ. now end ever !

Nah. He's faced a lot of tough competition, and now he's fighting Golovkin next. His ducking GGG as long as he did definitely pissed me off, but now that the megafight is scheduled he's certainly not the biggest disgrace to boxing ever. Hell he's got one of the better resumes out there of any active fighter today.

Not fighting GGG was my one and only beef with Canelo. Now that he's doing that I got no issues with the guy, and really I don't see why anybody else should but you can keep on hating on him if it makes ya feel better.

[Rob3_142]

As far as I know caffeïne helps much more as Meldonium, but if you can proof else, please show me!

'As far as I know....' pretty much sums it all.

Here is the link to a study which highlights the sporting benefits of meldonium, a metabolic modulator:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 4616300473

Here is another link, this time to a study which highlights the sporting benefits of caffaine, an ergogenic aid.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8a99/7 ... 7f02b1.pdf

It is determined that there is an insignificant increase in endurance performance of around 3-4%, but with the maximal benefits occurring on small to moderate doses, which are well within the normal daily caffeine intakes of the general population. I think the exclusion of caffeine from the banned list is a pragmatic choice.

So even there it's obvious that cafeïne makes you perform way better, as I said...

Quantify 'way better'.

You could say that 'Oxygen makes you perform way better', should they ban altitude training?

[Tanzio]

I challenge anyone to make a case for any champion being more pathetic than the HW lineal champion.

[gilgamesh]

I challenge anyone to make a case for any champion being more pathetic than the HW lineal champion.

There is no Heavyweight Lineal Champion at the moment. Tyson Fury gave that up.

[Tanzio]

I challenge anyone to make a case for any champion being more pathetic than the HW lineal champion.

There is no Heavyweight Lineal Champion at the moment. Tyson Fury gave that up.

Not according to Ring and lineal enthusiasts and the coke troll worshipping hordes.