WHO is the Most Pathetic Current World Champion?

[gilgamesh]

I challenge anyone to make a case for any champion being more pathetic than the HW lineal champion.

There is no Heavyweight Lineal Champion at the moment. Tyson Fury gave that up.

Not according to Ring and lineal enthusiasts and the coke troll worshipping hordes.

Yeah I know some people are still on about that, but didn't he say himself that he relinquished the title? Maybe I'm mixing him up with someone else, but it seems as if I recall him saying he relinquished the title.

[Counter-puncher]

Fury is clearly champion of jackshit at the moment

[gilgamesh]

Fury is clearly champion of jackshit at the moment

[Loki]

I think perhaps you want to say instead that 'I don't agree with the majority of this post' rather than 'this post is terrible, but I agree with some points', if you get what I mean.

Lol, why do you even care?

I think perhaps you should realize that when someone's post includes several arguments, agreeing with just one of them doesn't conflict with finding the post to be awful in general.

I feel that calling a post 'awful' is a pretty extreme position. To then turn around and agree with some points of the awful post, perhaps means it is not so awful, and that they used the term 'awful post', just to be offensive.

Does it matter? For me, it was an awful post.hes defending Wilder, Stevenson and BJS as being worthy legimate champions. They aren't, ergo, an awful post. The blokes a troll.

[Loki]

I think perhaps you want to say instead that 'I don't agree with the majority of this post' rather than 'this post is terrible, but I agree with some points', if you get what I mean.

Lol, why do you even care?

I think perhaps you should realize that when someone's post includes several arguments, agreeing with just one of them doesn't conflict with finding the post to be awful in general.

I feel that calling a post 'awful' is a pretty extreme position. To then turn around and agree with some points of the awful post, perhaps means it is not so awful, and that they used the term 'awful post', just to be offensive.

LOL. Who is Rob3? Mary Whitehouse?

[Rob3_142]

Lol, why do you even care?

I think perhaps you should realize that when someone's post includes several arguments, agreeing with just one of them doesn't conflict with finding the post to be awful in general.

I feel that calling a post 'awful' is a pretty extreme position. To then turn around and agree with some points of the awful post, perhaps means it is not so awful, and that they used the term 'awful post', just to be offensive.

LOL. Who is Rob3? Mary Whitehouse?

It's just Rob, thanks.

[verlichte]

Lol, why do you even care?

I think perhaps you should realize that when someone's post includes several arguments, agreeing with just one of them doesn't conflict with finding the post to be awful in general.

I feel that calling a post 'awful' is a pretty extreme position. To then turn around and agree with some points of the awful post, perhaps means it is not so awful, and that they used the term 'awful post', just to be offensive.

Does it matter? For me, it was an awful post.hes defending Wilder, Stevenson and BJS as being worthy legimate champions. They aren't, ergo, an awful post. The blokes a troll.

What you've just claimed didn't happen in any version of reality!

I simply listed facts that were irrefutable in nature.

The fact that you take great offence about events that actually occurred in the real-world means that you're a complete an utter fûckîng prick that needs to get your head examined! FFS, you're an ignorant cûnt!

You couldn't even undermine a single sentence that I wrote you thick fûckèr, yet you insist on calling me the troll?

Read every sentence of the original post that I submitted to this thread and then provide evidence that justifies your belief that what I've written is not only "wrong" but also "awful":

Some points to consider:

• Gary Russell Jr. has faced Vasyl Lomachenko & Jhonny Gonzalez.
• Adonis Stevenson agreed to face Sergey Kovalev, but the Russian declined a guaranteed opportunity to take the bout. And the Canadian has stopped Tony Bellew and Chad Dawson.
• Billy Joe Saunders defeated Andy Lee & Chris Eubank Jr. Gennady Golovkin "lost his pen" when he declined an opportunity to fight the Brit. Saunders is facing Avtandil Khurtsidze in his next bout, which is an opponent rated eighth by ESPN and The Ring, which is a higher rating than the vast majority of title challengers that GGG has defended his belts against.
• Guillermo Rigondeaux is generally "ducked" because, not only is he deemed as a "boring" fighter, but he doesn't bring any money to the table. And despite this huge limitation, the Cuban has defeated the likes of Nonito Donaire & Rico Ramos.
• Deontay Wilder had agreed to face his mandatory challenger, but Alexander Povetkin failed a drug test. Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko were inactive for 18 months and Eddie Hearn has never attempted to make a fight between 'The Bronze Bomber' and Anthony Joshua. Apart from the Klitschko victory, AJ's resume is similar in calibre to Wilder's.

[asdfjkl]

'As far as I know....' pretty much sums it all.

Here is the link to a study which highlights the sporting benefits of meldonium, a metabolic modulator:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 4616300473

Here is another link, this time to a study which highlights the sporting benefits of caffaine, an ergogenic aid.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8a99/7 ... 7f02b1.pdf

It is determined that there is an insignificant increase in endurance performance of around 3-4%, but with the maximal benefits occurring on small to moderate doses, which are well within the normal daily caffeine intakes of the general population. I think the exclusion of caffeine from the banned list is a pragmatic choice.

So even there it's obvious that cafeïne makes you perform way better, as I said...

Quantify 'way better'.

You could say that 'Oxygen makes you perform way better', should they ban altitude training?

Showing better results because of a cup of coffee, compared to taking Meldonium, especially if you took the Meldonium on doctors advice 4 months earlier.

I think altitude training should be allowed, but it's not allowed to take your blood, out at that moment and pump it back in just before the fight.

[Rob3_142]

So even there it's obvious that cafeïne makes you perform way better, as I said...

Quantify 'way better'.

You could say that 'Oxygen makes you perform way better', should they ban altitude training?

Showing better results because of a cup of coffee, compared to taking Meldonium, especially if you took the Meldonium on doctors advice 4 months earlier.

I think altitude training should be allowed, but it's not allowed to take your blood, out at that moment and pump it back in just before the fight.

Yes, because that is blood doping, and is also illegal.

Doctors should only be prescribing meldonium if their patient is suffering from angina or some mild form of coronary disease. They should not, however, be prescribing meldonium for performance enhancing purposes, as it is on the banned list. This is exactly why top athletes employ doctors, simply to help athletes avoid this situation.

[Badhusker]

So even there it's obvious that cafeïne makes you perform way better, as I said...

Quantify 'way better'.

You could say that 'Oxygen makes you perform way better', should they ban altitude training?

Showing better results because of a cup of coffee, compared to taking Meldonium, especially if you took the Meldonium on doctors advice 4 months earlier.

I think altitude training should be allowed, but it's not allowed to take your blood, out at that moment and pump it back in just before the fight.

I feel a whole lot dumber after reading that. WTF?!

[Tanzio]

Fury is clearly champion of jackshit at the moment

https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/?weightclass=272The Traveling Coke Troll is the most pathetic world champion by some distance.

[Freedom2013]

https://twitter.com/Real_AlHaymon/statu ... 9622590464

[asdfjkl]

Quantify 'way better'.

You could say that 'Oxygen makes you perform way better', should they ban altitude training?

Showing better results because of a cup of coffee, compared to taking Meldonium, especially if you took the Meldonium on doctors advice 4 months earlier.

I think altitude training should be allowed, but it's not allowed to take your blood, out at that moment and pump it back in just before the fight.

Yes, because that is blood doping, and is also illegal.

Doctors should only be prescribing meldonium if their patient is suffering from angina or some mild form of coronary disease. They should not, however, be prescribing meldonium for performance enhancing purposes, as it is on the banned list. This is exactly why top athletes employ doctors, simply to help athletes avoid this situation.

Well first of all, you don't need a doctor to get meldonium lol, it's widely availeble all over the place, it's similar like coffee for example.
It only became on the banlist recently and Povetkin fully stopped taking it when he had to, it was only placed on the banlist as a part of the smearcompain of the Americans, not because it was some kind of wonder stuff, like the Americans suggest.

[asdfjkl]

Quantify 'way better'.

You could say that 'Oxygen makes you perform way better', should they ban altitude training?

Showing better results because of a cup of coffee, compared to taking Meldonium, especially if you took the Meldonium on doctors advice 4 months earlier.

I think altitude training should be allowed, but it's not allowed to take your blood, out at that moment and pump it back in just before the fight.

I feel a whole lot dumber after reading that. WTF?!

You know what altitude training is?
Perhaps you're just American, they often don't know much about reality

[Rob3_142]

Showing better results because of a cup of coffee, compared to taking Meldonium, especially if you took the Meldonium on doctors advice 4 months earlier.

I think altitude training should be allowed, but it's not allowed to take your blood, out at that moment and pump it back in just before the fight.

Yes, because that is blood doping, and is also illegal.

Doctors should only be prescribing meldonium if their patient is suffering from angina or some mild form of coronary disease. They should not, however, be prescribing meldonium for performance enhancing purposes, as it is on the banned list. This is exactly why top athletes employ doctors, simply to help athletes avoid this situation.

Well first of all, you don't need a doctor to get meldonium lol, it's widely availeble all over the place, it's similar like coffee for example.
It only became on the banlist recently and Povetkin fully stopped taking it when he had to, it was only placed on the banlist as a part of the smearcompain of the Americans, not because it was some kind of wonder stuff, like the Americans suggest.

Yes, I know you don't need a doctor's prescription to get your hands on Meldonium, what I meant was that doctors should not be advising Meldonium for performance enhancing purposes. The difference between Meldonium and coffee is one is a drug designed to treat patients with heart disease, and the other you can get from a Starbucks on basically every other street in the US, with 146 billion cups of coffee consumed by American's per year. Meldonium was specifically used for performance enhancing benefits, caffeine is not.

We don't know if Povetkin stopped taking Meldonium on 31 Dec, that is exactly what the excretion tests are supposed to determine. What are you going to do? Take the athletes word for it? How many athletes admit to cheating before being proven guilty? If/and when the excretion tests reveal that he must have taken Meldonium after 1 Jan, then he will rightly receive a lengthy ban. He did have the option to take a voluntary ban, but he declined.

You may well feel that is a smear campaign against Russia, but they have done enough over the last 5 years to damage their own integrity, and their attitude to doping, to put it mildly, has been awful. I personally believe anyone is innocent until proven guilty, but considering Povetkin has since failed a second test, my suspicions are only escalated.

[caldo2025]

Yes, because that is blood doping, and is also illegal.

Doctors should only be prescribing meldonium if their patient is suffering from angina or some mild form of coronary disease. They should not, however, be prescribing meldonium for performance enhancing purposes, as it is on the banned list. This is exactly why top athletes employ doctors, simply to help athletes avoid this situation.

Well first of all, you don't need a doctor to get meldonium lol, it's widely availeble all over the place, it's similar like coffee for example.
It only became on the banlist recently and Povetkin fully stopped taking it when he had to, it was only placed on the banlist as a part of the smearcompain of the Americans, not because it was some kind of wonder stuff, like the Americans suggest.

Yes, I know you don't need a doctor's prescription to get your hands on Meldonium, what I meant was that doctors should not be advising Meldonium for performance enhancing purposes. The difference between Meldonium and coffee is one is a drug designed to treat patients with heart disease, and the other you can get from a Starbucks on basically every other street in the US, with 146 billion cups of coffee consumed by American's per year. Meldonium was specifically used for performance enhancing benefits, caffeine is not.

We don't know if Povetkin stopped taking Meldonium on 31 Dec, that is exactly what the excretion tests are supposed to determine. What are you going to do? Take the athletes word for it? How many athletes admit to cheating before being proven guilty? If/and when the excretion tests reveal that he must have taken Meldonium after 1 Jan, then he will rightly receive a lengthy ban. He did have the option to take a voluntary ban, but he declined.

You may well feel that is a smear campaign against Russia, but they have done enough over the last 5 years to damage their own integrity, and their attitude to doping, to put it mildly, has been awful. I personally believe anyone is innocent until proven guilty, but considering Povetkin has since failed a second test, my suspicions are only escalated.

It couldn't have been said any better than this. Perfectly put.

[asdfjkl]

Well first of all, you don't need a doctor to get meldonium lol, it's widely availeble all over the place, it's similar like coffee for example.
It only became on the banlist recently and Povetkin fully stopped taking it when he had to, it was only placed on the banlist as a part of the smearcompain of the Americans, not because it was some kind of wonder stuff, like the Americans suggest.

Yes, I know you don't need a doctor's prescription to get your hands on Meldonium, what I meant was that doctors should not be advising Meldonium for performance enhancing purposes. The difference between Meldonium and coffee is one is a drug designed to treat patients with heart disease, and the other you can get from a Starbucks on basically every other street in the US, with 146 billion cups of coffee consumed by American's per year. Meldonium was specifically used for performance enhancing benefits, caffeine is not.

We don't know if Povetkin stopped taking Meldonium on 31 Dec, that is exactly what the excretion tests are supposed to determine. What are you going to do? Take the athletes word for it? How many athletes admit to cheating before being proven guilty? If/and when the excretion tests reveal that he must have taken Meldonium after 1 Jan, then he will rightly receive a lengthy ban. He did have the option to take a voluntary ban, but he declined.

You may well feel that is a smear campaign against Russia, but they have done enough over the last 5 years to damage their own integrity, and their attitude to doping, to put it mildly, has been awful. I personally believe anyone is innocent until proven guilty, but considering Povetkin has since failed a second test, my suspicions are only escalated.

It couldn't have been said any better than this. Perfectly put.

I think it's far more suspicious that the second test happened exactly the same way, also with uncredebly low amounts, on top of that his sample turned out to be negative when it got tested by an independant lab in Swiss. On top of all that the Americans said that he had... I can't remember the name, but some kind of American product that's illegal in Russia in his blood. Something that would be high prison risk in Europe or Russia, it's very unlogical since it's an American product and easy to trace, for me it's even more proof that the American lab probably failed, or made mistakes on purpose all over again. Do not forget that the result was released hours before the fight, but the test was taken a month before the fight and there have been taken more tests both before, as well as after this test who all turned out to be negative. In fact, if he took that American substance a month before the fight he would have been less strong during the fight because of it. So a positive test at that moment doesn't make sense at all.

Also note that Povetkin's story and later discovered evidence around the Meldonium case fits perfectly in the story he told openly in the media within hours after they confronted him with it, even without Povetkin knew details about it and this while people normally advice to deny anything. On top of that, he had the Meldonium in his body in 2015 when it was allowed, like he said, so Wilder and his team probably knew months before the fight that he would have had it in his body in april 2016 as well. That also explains why Wilder continually wanted to avoid Povetkin untill a couple of months before the fight? What changed? Visably nothing, except for one thing, he knew he would have this excuse to avoid the fight anyway just a couple of days before the fight was planned.
Also note that Povetkin was the most tested boxer in the world in 2016, if he was cought again in june for example that would have been clear evidence that he took it in april, but that didn't happen, because he hasn't taken it in 2016, like he said.
Also note that it's very odd that the Americans never adverted the Stiverne-Povetkin fight, while this is one of the biggest heavyweight matches seen in the past few years. Like they knew the fight would never happen. Also note that Stiverne was completely out of shape just before the match was supposed to happen, like he wasn't planning to fight at all. On top of all that, Stiverne himself was cought in the act of using illegal substances, remarkebly enough never traced by WADA at the same time, just the tester seeing in front of him that Stiverne was using illegal substances at that very moment.

For me it's obvious that Povetkin should be the WBC beltholder at this very moment, but appearantly the WBC preferes the Americans to have a belt, they don't care if he's the best or not.

[Kalan]

Here's a list of some current world champions that continue to hold belts without facing a significant opponent or top contender in his weight class. These boxers obviously do not want to be tested and will do whatever they can to avoid facing anyone that could threaten the belts around their waist. Which is the most pathetic? Not talking about talent level, i'm talking about which guy is doing the most to avoid fighting anyone legitimate?

Some points to consider:

• Gary Russell Jr. has faced Vasyl Lomachenko & Jhonny Gonzalez.
• Adonis Stevenson agreed to face Sergey Kovalev, but the Russian declined a guaranteed opportunity to take the bout. And the Canadian has stopped Tony Bellew and Chad Dawson.
• Billy Joe Saunders defeated Andy Lee & Chris Eubank Jr. Gennady Golovkin "lost his pen" when he declined an opportunity to fight the Brit. Saunders is facing Avtandil Khurtsidze in his next bout, which is an opponent rated eighth by ESPN and The Ring, which is a higher rating than the vast majority of title challengers that GGG has defended his belts against.
• Guillermo Rigondeaux is generally "ducked" because, not only is he deemed as a "boring" fighter, but he doesn't bring any money to the table. And despite this huge limitation, the Cuban has defeated the likes of Nonito Donaire & Rico Ramos.
• Deontay Wilder had agreed to face his mandatory challenger, but Alexander Povetkin failed a drug test. Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko were inactive for 18 months and Eddie Hearn has never attempted to make a fight between 'The Bronze Bomber' and Anthony Joshua. Apart from the Klitschko victory, AJ's resume is similar in calibre to Wilder's.

If you do your research, every single sentence that I’ve written is factually correct. Therefore, where's the "none of them" option?

Total nonsense all the way except for Gary Russell... The top Featherweights don't want to be knocked out by him....

Chickenson has been ducking Kovalev for many years...

Saunders ducked Golovkin and is ducking a Eubank rematch. He's also ducking Jacobs and fighting the easiest guys he can find...

Rigondeaux refused to fight Lomachenko in a very attractive fight for fans..

Wilder ducked Povetkin who never took PEDs in his life... VADA rigged the tests so they could destroy Moscow as a venue for major Heavyweight Fights... They reluctantly admitted that Povetkin passed all his tests for Wilder.

[KiwiRider]

The fighters who duck top level opponents have to get a mention like the previous post.
Fighters who have yet to face top level opponents should get the benefit of the doubt until they do, or duck.
AJ was touted as a low level champ after the Martin fight, then won his acceptance after accepting Wlad, and winning.
Parker is still to be tested against a top level HW, but is yet to duck anyone, so he receives the benefit of the doubt for now.

[verlichte]

Here's a list of some current world champions that continue to hold belts without facing a significant opponent or top contender in his weight class. These boxers obviously do not want to be tested and will do whatever they can to avoid facing anyone that could threaten the belts around their waist. Which is the most pathetic? Not talking about talent level, i'm talking about which guy is doing the most to avoid fighting anyone legitimate?

Some points to consider:

• Gary Russell Jr. has faced Vasyl Lomachenko & Jhonny Gonzalez.
• Adonis Stevenson agreed to face Sergey Kovalev, but the Russian declined a guaranteed opportunity to take the bout. And the Canadian has stopped Tony Bellew and Chad Dawson.
• Billy Joe Saunders defeated Andy Lee & Chris Eubank Jr. Gennady Golovkin "lost his pen" when he declined an opportunity to fight the Brit. Saunders is facing Avtandil Khurtsidze in his next bout, which is an opponent rated eighth by ESPN and The Ring, which is a higher rating than the vast majority of title challengers that GGG has defended his belts against.
• Guillermo Rigondeaux is generally "ducked" because, not only is he deemed as a "boring" fighter, but he doesn't bring any money to the table. And despite this huge limitation, the Cuban has defeated the likes of Nonito Donaire & Rico Ramos.
• Deontay Wilder had agreed to face his mandatory challenger, but Alexander Povetkin failed a drug test. Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko were inactive for 18 months and Eddie Hearn has never attempted to make a fight between 'The Bronze Bomber' and Anthony Joshua. Apart from the Klitschko victory, AJ's resume is similar in calibre to Wilder's.

If you do your research, every single sentence that I’ve written is factually correct. Therefore, where's the "none of them" option?

Total nonsense all the way except for Gary Russell... The top Featherweights don't want to be knocked out by him....

Chickenson has been ducking Kovalev for many years...

Saunders ducked Golovkin and is ducking a Eubank rematch. He's also ducking Jacobs and fighting the easiest guys he can find...

Rigondeaux refused to fight Lomachenko in a very attractive fight for fans..

Wilder ducked Povetkin who never took PEDs in his life... VADA rigged the tests so they could destroy Moscow as a venue for major Heavyweight Fights... They reluctantly admitted that Povetkin passed all his tests for Wilder.

Everything I stated in my post is 100% factually-accurate and can easily be verified with less than five minutes' worth of research per bullet point claim.

Please note that I cannot be personally held responsible for your lack of knowledge in relation to this matter. You should really learn how to educate yourself instead of prematurely dismissing facts that are blatantly irrefutable in nature!

If you don't believe me, then please attempt to prove me wrong with cold hard facts, instead of gut instinct.

I am astounded by your ignorance. I thought you were a genuine fan of our beloved sport, but it appears that I was wrong.

[tonymaccaroni]

Anyone who doesn't agree with me is either uneducated or not a real fan of the sport with any knowledge. Hmmm who could I be...

I like your factual attitude dont get me wrong, but most of what you state is subjective or based on official press releases. Although it may be accurate in terms of whats reported, what happens in peoples minds and behind the scenes does not always match up with the official stance.

You can also interpret a lot of what your saying in many ways. In the BJS threads we have discussed I do not even disagree that BJS agreed the second offer as you state in this thread, I mean its pretty clear its big money fight for him. Exactly as you describe he tried to get more money out of it.

Now you can interpret this two ways. One is that BJS is a world champion who deserves more than non world champions, who were offered more. Hence the refusal. That was the party line so to speak.

Or you could see it as they were playing games to either get a bigger purse or dodge the fight. Which backfired on them when GGG lost interest.

Your 'facts' can be interpreted however a person sees fit. It is called an opinion and everyone's should be respected .

So maybe enough of the superiority complex and telling people they are uneducated and not fans of the sport. We are all obviously fans of the sport which is why we are on a boxing forum discussing boxing.

In regards to the worst champion. I have made several arguments for why I dislike BJS as fighter and think he is an embarrassment to British boxing in other threads, so I am going to offer a different approach.

Which of these champions is the least entertaining to watch? I understand the reasoning that Wilder has yet to fight anyone, but do I like to watch him fight... Yes. Hes exciting, you know anything can happen as he has no defense and just weighs in using his size to overwhelm opponents. This will make for some very entertaining fights when he finally does get a big one. He is a guy that no matter how poor he is technically, if he lands a big punch on anyone he can win the fight.

So out of BJS and Wilder who seem to be neck and neck in peoples opinion it is a clear vote for BJS. Boring style, no power (cept the one punch on Andy Lee), avoids big fights (for whatever reason you interpret it as), talks as is he is on the same sort of level as Mayweather, fights bums and journeymen and looks average, (sometimes even losing imo, (Blackwell), say thanks to fwank)

Hopefully he loses the belt and the 0 soon and become a gatekeeper to European level for some actual talent coming through as that is pretty much where he is terms of skill, character and ambition.

I think Martin Murray, Chris Eubank Jr, Liam Smith and Matthew Macklin (if he ever fought again) are better fighters then BJS and that's just British fighters let alone the rest of the world.

[Rob3_142]

Wilder ducked Povetkin who never took PEDs in his life...

You're a liar.

[Loki]

Some points to consider:

• Gary Russell Jr. has faced Vasyl Lomachenko & Jhonny Gonzalez.
• Adonis Stevenson agreed to face Sergey Kovalev, but the Russian declined a guaranteed opportunity to take the bout. And the Canadian has stopped Tony Bellew and Chad Dawson.
• Billy Joe Saunders defeated Andy Lee & Chris Eubank Jr. Gennady Golovkin "lost his pen" when he declined an opportunity to fight the Brit. Saunders is facing Avtandil Khurtsidze in his next bout, which is an opponent rated eighth by ESPN and The Ring, which is a higher rating than the vast majority of title challengers that GGG has defended his belts against.
• Guillermo Rigondeaux is generally "ducked" because, not only is he deemed as a "boring" fighter, but he doesn't bring any money to the table. And despite this huge limitation, the Cuban has defeated the likes of Nonito Donaire & Rico Ramos.
• Deontay Wilder had agreed to face his mandatory challenger, but Alexander Povetkin failed a drug test. Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko were inactive for 18 months and Eddie Hearn has never attempted to make a fight between 'The Bronze Bomber' and Anthony Joshua. Apart from the Klitschko victory, AJ's resume is similar in calibre to Wilder's.

If you do your research, every single sentence that I’ve written is factually correct. Therefore, where's the "none of them" option?

Total nonsense all the way except for Gary Russell... The top Featherweights don't want to be knocked out by him....

Chickenson has been ducking Kovalev for many years...

Saunders ducked Golovkin and is ducking a Eubank rematch. He's also ducking Jacobs and fighting the easiest guys he can find...

Rigondeaux refused to fight Lomachenko in a very attractive fight for fans..

Wilder ducked Povetkin who never took PEDs in his life... VADA rigged the tests so they could destroy Moscow as a venue for major Heavyweight Fights... They reluctantly admitted that Povetkin passed all his tests for Wilder.

Everything I stated in my post is 100% factually-accurate and can easily be verified with less than five minutes' worth of research per bullet point claim.

Please note that I cannot be personally held responsible for your lack of knowledge in relation to this matter. You should really learn how to educate yourself instead of prematurely dismissing facts that are blatantly irrefutable in nature!

If you don't believe me, then please attempt to prove me wrong with cold hard facts, instead of gut instinct.

I am astounded by your ignorance. I thought you were a genuine fan of our beloved sport, but it appears that I was wrong.

You don't love boxing, just an arguement, three billy goats gruff and yourself.