boxingknockout wrote:I'm a bit worried about your posts - do you want to see people get killed???!wesshaw1985 wrote:W@rren should get Martin Rogan out of retirement and have Dubois knock him over at the Waterfront Hall next month...
In all seriousness, how would people match him next? Have to remember he is only 19 but if the ability is there, why hold him back?CaptainSpacerod wrote:Get him in with Bellew
It would be nice to see him in with someone with some punch resistance. Knocking over guys in 40 seconds is not beneficial in any capacity. Denis Bakthov has gone some good punch resistance, which out throwing anything too dangerous the other way. Failing that, would it be unheard of to throw him in an English level match up?ozzy1875 wrote:In all seriousness, how would people match him next? Have to remember he is only 19 but if the ability is there, why hold him back?CaptainSpacerod wrote:Get him in with Bellew
That fat Romanian dude that fought Parker would be ok I reckon. Should give him a few rounds. Sexton if he's wanting to actually fight, Cornish, Akinlade, Gorman.ozzy1875 wrote:In all seriousness, how would people match him next? Have to remember he is only 19 but if the ability is there, why hold him back?CaptainSpacerod wrote:Get him in with Bellew
Nathan Gorman is a good matchStuarty30 wrote:That fat Romanian dude that fought Parker would be ok I reckon. Should give him a few rounds. Sexton if he's wanting to actually fight, Cornish, Akinlade, Gorman.ozzy1875 wrote:In all seriousness, how would people match him next? Have to remember he is only 19 but if the ability is there, why hold him back?CaptainSpacerod wrote:Get him in with Bellew
I agree, he's potentially ten years from his peak.ERIC GUY wrote:its all a steady learning curve, he is a novice, and some guys are trying to match him up on here, have no idea what to do with matchmaking. give him time, he is just 19, let him go off to the states, learn from different gyms, etc, get him on a training camp
He might do, but what happens after that? Is he then a fringe world title contender with four fights under his belt? Probably not, as unless he's something utterly phenomenal then anyone at that level would destroy him.Rob3_142 wrote:I agree that it would be very beneficial for Dubois to get some experience from a few different camps across the world. But it is very much like the situation with Joshua, perhaps even worse. People will want to see him at his level now, rather than these tedious learning fights. I'm a pragmatist, so I don't mind it, but can Dubois learn on the job like Joshua did? Would Dubois win now if you put him in with the likes of Charles Martin?
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I don't think for one second that he should be thrown into world fringe level inside single digits, I'm just saying even in his current raw state, he would probably beat a portion of the current top 20 already.dirk2686 wrote:He might do, but what happens after that? Is he then a fringe world title contender with four fights under his belt? Probably not, as unless he's something utterly phenomenal then anyone at that level would destroy him.Rob3_142 wrote:I agree that it would be very beneficial for Dubois to get some experience from a few different camps across the world. But it is very much like the situation with Joshua, perhaps even worse. People will want to see him at his level now, rather than these tedious learning fights. I'm a pragmatist, so I don't mind it, but can Dubois learn on the job like Joshua did? Would Dubois win now if you put him in with the likes of Charles Martin?
I think knockover stay-busy fights are fine whilst he's in single figures, building as he goes to domestic level once he's knocking on ten fights. There's absolutely no need to rush; Joshua is the biggest name in the sport as far as the UK is concerned and whilst fighting Wlad and unifying in less than twenty fights is quick it still took him three years and after ten fights he was still fighting the likes of Sprott and Gavern.
Time is on his side, but I hope the opposite doesn't happen and in six years or so we're looking at a 30-0 Dubois who's standout win is against a faded 34-14 Chisora.
That's the key - durable opposition. It's much harder to find in the heavyweights though, as if you get banged you stay hit.SAPFO wrote:They need to be durable. He'll learn nothing bombing people out in round 1.
He's got a head like a Ninja Turtle. I reckon it could hold a good shot.
Dorian Darch is a great shout, I'd rather see him matched with British lads who come to have a go rather than puddings from Eastern Europe who fold at the first sign of a shot being thrown.CharlesListon wrote:Match him next with Dorian Darch.
Darch beat Howe, has beat the usual suspects from the east, beat Tom Little and had a go for 2 rounds against AJ when others at that point just folded and did eff all.
It's not a huge step up, but for a 19year old novice pro it's a step in the right direction.
After a Darch or Little, put him in with Lewison/Cornish/Sexton.
After that he'll be at British title level and we can roll out Chisora or Whyte.
I don't agree with the British angle necessarily. There are too few tough, half decent heavyweights in the U.K. to provide onward tests. Just bring in people with hard heads who will try a bit wherever they're from.ozzy1875 wrote:Dorian Darch is a great shout, I'd rather see him matched with British lads who come to have a go rather than puddings from Eastern Europe who fold at the first sign of a shot being thrown.CharlesListon wrote:Match him next with Dorian Darch.
Darch beat Howe, has beat the usual suspects from the east, beat Tom Little and had a go for 2 rounds against AJ when others at that point just folded and did eff all.
It's not a huge step up, but for a 19year old novice pro it's a step in the right direction.
After a Darch or Little, put him in with Lewison/Cornish/Sexton.
After that he'll be at British title level and we can roll out Chisora or Whyte.
Difficult one, Dubois keeps winning in style, people will want to see the step up, but, he is only 19 and he's a lot of learning to do.
I think he will be fed fodder for the next year or so. That's alright I suppose as long as he's out every month if possible. There's a few guys at area title level/British level I'd fancy him against right now though. As you say, there's definitely no need to rush him.PredatorHayds wrote:He had very few amateur fights. He's only 19.
I'd give him a few more easy touches. I'm more than happy for him to fight cannon fodder for 12 months and get to approx 10-0.
I'd try to find a few who are durable but the reality is he's probably not going to go past 3.
He needs experience and there's no rush.