Taylor vs Chavez

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 17 Apr 2003, 11:00

I'm surprised nobody has made this topic yet, perhaps no one else was watching last night.

The end of that special almost had me in tears. How could they still let poor Meldrick fight? Did you see what he's become? People say Evander, and Tommy Hearns sound terrible, but you can't understand anything coming from Meldrick, and he's only 36.

I think the special last night proved that we without a doubt need to get rid of the Douche BAG ( refer to http://www.boxrec.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8723 ) and every other jack off commission. This kind of thing won't stop until the government steps in.

Meldrick still thinks he's as good as he was in his prime!! Take a look for yourself http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000553 . Everyone says that someone needs to beat someone into retirement, but I just don't think that will work. some people are too far gone, and delusional. And all it's going to do, is damage them even more.

Well, that's all I can think to write, hopefully you guys will reply with some decent information and/or comments.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 17 Apr 2003, 11:36

I'm a bit retarded Tantum what is it your saying? Is Taylor making a come back but he's in a bad state? Where does Chavez fit into all this, he's not returning as well is he?!

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 17 Apr 2003, 11:45

No, I'm referring to the Legendary Nights special HBO plays.

It was about Taylor vs Chavez, and they interviewed Taylor in 2002, and you can't help but want to bust out crying, because he's so far gone.

Meldrick Taylor is still fighting, it's not a comeback, he's been fighting since '84.

epluribus36 · Post by **epluribus36** » 17 Apr 2003, 11:57

Yeah, I saw that too, Tantum. I had seen interviews with Taylor a few years ago, and remember thinking he was a little slurred, but he was nothing like the clip of him in '02! What I want to know is, where is he fighting? Because somebody has to license him to box in their state, and surely they TALK to the guy when they're considering licensing him. If I was the licensor, I'd have about 10 words with the guy, and say, "Hell no, this guy ain't fighting in this state!" He sounds like somebody I once knew who was in a near-fatal car accident and had severe brain damage, or another guy I knew who had cerebral palsy, for God's sake! Or somebody who's close to dying of alcohol poisoning! Damn!

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 17 Apr 2003, 14:00

that's right, anyone who OK's him fighting should be shot. not only them, but the people who fight him! I wouldn't fight Meldrick for 10 million dollars, anyone who would fight him now has absolutely NO CLASS.

epluribus36 · Post by **epluribus36** » 17 Apr 2003, 14:08

Anybody who would allow Taylor to be licensed to fight should be locked up. But of course, there are lots and lots of folks connected with boxing who should be locked up!

TonyJ · Post by **TonyJ** » 17 Apr 2003, 14:29

I watched it as well last night, it was very sad to see taylor like that, i just hope someone from his team does something, cause i agree with the rest of you guys their is no way in hell this guy should continue to fight. Another thing i noticed form last nights program was it me or was it that they seemd to focuse more on Taylor than Chavez, anyone else noticed that.

Blue · Post by **Blue** » 17 Apr 2003, 14:36

Right now the onus is on the Association of Boxing Commissions.

His last 2 bouts were in Alabama which has no commission and in Minnesota whose boxing board is being phased out. :(

epluribus36 · Post by **epluribus36** » 17 Apr 2003, 14:42

TonyJ wrote:I watched it as well last night, it was very sad to see taylor like that, i just hope someone from his team does something, cause i agree with the rest of you guys their is no way in hell this guy should continue to fight. Another thing i noticed form last nights program was it me or was it that they seemd to focuse more on Taylor than Chavez, anyone else noticed that.

I noticed they emphasized Taylor more than Chavez. I guess that could be a combination of things. First, I'm half-expecting one of those HBO "Legendary Nights" shows to be totally about Chavez's career, so they didn't want to get too deeply into his career in this one. Second, I think they were hoping for the kind of reaction they seem to have gotten out of us, and that is the human-interest story of Taylor's still-ongoing career, hell, it's got me stirred-up! Third, did you notice how many times Richard Steele was interviewed, and his name brought up, and how the show seemed to lean towards saying what an injustice it is that some people would accuse Steele of improper fight-stoppage, just because of his friendship with Don King, and the fact that he stopped that fight with 5 seconds to go? Makes me wonder if one of the producers of that episode might be King and/or Steele himself!

Sorry about the long post.

Mr Pickalini · Post by **Mr Pickalini** » 17 Apr 2003, 15:28

I remember seeing Frazier being inerviewed a while ago an another special and I thought he was hard to understand, but you can't even compare his state to that of Taylor's. I hope Taylor stops boxing soon.

I think Taylor boxing shows that we need a national comission instead of state commissions. :x

Does anyone think that his state will eventually lead to severe damage like retardation or even a premature death?

TonyJ · Post by **TonyJ** » 17 Apr 2003, 15:37

Good point epluribus36.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 17 Apr 2003, 16:20

Yes, pickalini, he already seems to be headed down that road.

matador · Post by **matador** » 17 Apr 2003, 18:27

First, I'm half-expecting one of those HBO "Legendary Nights" shows to be totally about Chavez's career, so they didn't want to get too deeply into his career in this one.

i doubt it. there's only 5 more shows left and none of them include another chavez fight. i hope they make another season of legendary nights but i dont see it happening.

Mr Pickalini · Post by **Mr Pickalini** » 17 Apr 2003, 19:08

Taylor works as a personal trainer and nutritionist and he's also a liscened minister. I hope that's working out well for him and I hope he reitres soon.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 18 Apr 2003, 00:44

Poor Meldrick

AaronTP · Post by **AaronTP** » 18 Apr 2003, 01:08

I just saw the program this evening. It was really a shame what happened to Taylor. It is far too often that talented boxers who give everything they have in the ring wind up with unhappy endings. At least at the time their stories air on TV.

TonyJ · Post by **TonyJ** » 18 Apr 2003, 01:13

I just hope he retires permanently.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 18 Apr 2003, 01:17

matador wrote:
First, I'm half-expecting one of those HBO "Legendary Nights" shows to be totally about Chavez's career, so they didn't want to get too deeply into his career in this one.
i doubt it. there's only 5 more shows left and none of them include another chavez fight. i hope they make another season of legendary nights but i dont see it happening.

Why not? They have plenty of other great fights they could air. I'm sure they will have atleast one more season. Think about it, they did show clips from atleast a dozen other fights not included (yet).

NJDevilsfan · Post by **NJDevilsfan** » 18 Apr 2003, 11:20

I watched it last night and I can't believe what has happened to the poor guy. He's worse than Tommy Hearns and Evander Holyfield. Joe Fraizer sounds like scholar compared to him.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 18 Apr 2003, 18:01

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 19 Apr 2003, 09:56

Did you notice the interview from '91 when he's talking about philidelphia fighters? he doesn't sound all that hot even then.