Pulev injured?

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Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
Ortiz did drugs and drugs are bad. Ok?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7l8dx-h8M
Not any time recently, and Eddy Hearn indeed seems to be the coward that ignores Ortiz, as expected.

If Ortiz doesn't want to be ignored he needs to stop doing PEDs. Like Wilder, his first few years weren't fighting the best of the best either, and he had a much better amateur pedigree.

Is Eddy Hearn now part of the Axis of Evil w/ Wilder and Wilder's promoter?
Eddy just sees Ortiz as a big risk and gladly ducks that.
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In an ideal world.. AJ Vs wilder as late replacement. Stiverne and takam step a side money. Say what you like about the UFC MMA and glory kickboxing we know categorically who the champs are there is none of this merry go round and both UFC and glory have worthy.late replacements if a late problem happens. how much longer we got to wait for an undisputed hw champ ? Another year or two of merry go rounds. Respect to super middleweights and.cruiserweights just getting on with it !
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eddie seemed to start ignoring ortiz when ortiz started looking like shit and couldnt even stop malik scott. he has little reason to be worried about just another victim for aj.
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asdfjkl wrote: He didn't fail any drug test this year... You can act like he did, and you might find some retards who do, but Ortiz did not use any doping this year.
The Lab says he did. You saying he didn't means nothing.

Every Prisoner will tell you he's innocent too. Here's a hint, most of 'em ain't.
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asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Not any time recently, and Eddy Hearn indeed seems to be the coward that ignores Ortiz, as expected.

If Ortiz doesn't want to be ignored he needs to stop doing PEDs. Like Wilder, his first few years weren't fighting the best of the best either, and he had a much better amateur pedigree.

Is Eddy Hearn now part of the Axis of Evil w/ Wilder and Wilder's promoter?
Eddy just sees Ortiz as a big risk and gladly ducks that.

Well, Ortiz is a MUCH Bigger risk than Pulev and Takam. But so is Baby Miller.
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gilgamesh wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: He didn't fail any drug test this year... You can act like he did, and you might find some retards who do, but Ortiz did not use any doping this year.
The Lab says he did. You saying he didn't means nothing.

Every Prisoner will tell you he's innocent too. Here's a hint, most of 'em ain't.
No, in fact the lab says he's innocent as well and so is the WBC, but you're probably one of those fanbased retards that would love this to be true as a perfect excuse for Wilder to duck him. While real druguser Stiverne and car full of drugs owner Wilder can continue to share a belt.
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asdfjkl wrote: No, in fact the lab says he's innocent as well and so is the WBC, but you're probably one of those fanbased retards that would love this to be true as a perfect excuse for Wilder to duck him. While real druguser Stiverne and car full of drugs owner Wilder can continue to share a belt.
YOU say the lab says that. You're lying though.
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All that is irrelevant, this is Joshua's IBF mandatory. Hearn did a great job of keeping the next in line ready instead of the lazy promoting that goes on in the states.
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All these major fights should have someone in line who is ready to go.

Hearn did well by keeping it alive.
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I'm gutted about this. I'm glad that they had the back up planned, also luckily they have a exciting undercard.
But the main event is a let down.

One thing Pulev brought to the table was ambition. He would of found out he wasn't good enough early on against AJ but he'd of thrown the kitchen sink at the job like he did against Wlad. His heart and level of ambition may of caused AJ problems. Especially if Pulev set a high pace and lasted a few rounds.

I like Takam as all boxing fans do. He's a likeable durable guy with talent. But at this level I doubt his ambition. I see him feeling AJ power and size early and getting into survival mode.
He probably lasts longer than Pulev, but Pulev would of asked more questions.
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gilgamesh wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: No, in fact the lab says he's innocent as well and so is the WBC, but you're probably one of those fanbased retards that would love this to be true as a perfect excuse for Wilder to duck him. While real druguser Stiverne and car full of drugs owner Wilder can continue to share a belt.
YOU say the lab says that. You're lying though.
Go ahead, search what the lab said, as far as I know they couldn't find any peds, like they could in Stiverne and ofcourse in Wilder his car.
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PredatorHayds wrote:I'm gutted about this. I'm glad that they had the back up planned, also luckily they have a exciting undercard.
But the main event is a let down.

One thing Pulev brought to the table was ambition. He would of found out he wasn't good enough early on against AJ but he'd of thrown the kitchen sink at the job like he did against Wlad. His heart and level of ambition may of caused AJ problems. Especially if Pulev set a high pace and lasted a few rounds.

I like Takam as all boxing fans do. He's a likeable durable guy with talent. But at this level I doubt his ambition. I see him feeling AJ power and size early and getting into survival mode.
He probably lasts longer than Pulev, but Pulev would of asked more questions.
I'm gutted too, but Pulev will get his chance I expect. Takem is a good replacement. Every one else in the top ten is either busy or chicken. Takem was told when AJ signed to fight Pulev to go into training camp and he did. Does he still have ambition? I think he does. He was gutted after the decision with Parker. He wants a title, he is fit and ready. It's the best of a bad situation. I also think he will put up as good, if not better a showing as Pulev. Tough, mobile, durable, fit and above average skills. It's a weak division once you go down past #4 and anyone below that is not going to be fight of the year. IMO AJ has already earned that right this year. Give him a break for one fight. Takem won't though.
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asdfjkl wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: No, in fact the lab says he's innocent as well and so is the WBC, but you're probably one of those fanbased retards that would love this to be true as a perfect excuse for Wilder to duck him. While real druguser Stiverne and car full of drugs owner Wilder can continue to share a belt.
YOU say the lab says that. You're lying though.
Go ahead, search what the lab said, as far as I know they couldn't find any peds, like they could in Stiverne and ofcourse in Wilder his car.
I don't need to search what the lab said. The fight got called off. That's all I need to know. Unlike you I understand that 2+2 = 4
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THERE IS ALREADY A THREAD ABOUT THIS!!!!!

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... &start=100
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:This is clearly the work of Wilder.
Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?
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ILikeBeer wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:This is clearly the work of Wilder.
Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?
In CS it's all Wilder, all the time. He's responsible for all drug tests as he runs the wbc.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
ILikeBeer wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:This is clearly the work of Wilder.
Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?
In CS it's all Wilder, all the time. He's responsible for all drug tests as he runs the wbc.
Well, it's only Wilder.

Start making proper defences, and I might feel some sympathy.
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ILikeBeer wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
ILikeBeer wrote:
Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?
In CS it's all Wilder, all the time. He's responsible for all drug tests as he runs the wbc.
Well, it's only Wilder.

Start making proper defences, and I might feel some sympathy.
Sympathy? I'm sure he isn't hurt by stupid posters on boxrec.
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ILikeBeer wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:This is clearly the work of Wilder.
Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?
:bow:

Although, obviously, it was Wilder what done it, I still feel that someone's pulling Deontay's strings. Wilder's more your basic henchman type, whereas the whole intricate conspiracy smacks of a master villain.

& that person is ginger & hails from west London.
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He's fighting Carlos Takam is he not? Devalues the PPV but will it still be box office? You bet it will! Pure pish!
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asdfjkl wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Not any time recently, and Eddy Hearn indeed seems to be the coward that ignores Ortiz, as expected.
Yes, sometime recently. He just failed a drug test for his most recent scheduled fight. That's about as recent as it gets.
He didn't fail any drug test this year... You can act like he did, and you might find some retards who do, but Ortiz did not use any doping this year.
If they fought anyone other than Takam, they loose the IBF belt, simple as that.
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Datsue wrote:
ILikeBeer wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:This is clearly the work of Wilder.
Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?
:bow:

Although, obviously, it was Wilder what done it, I still feel that someone's pulling Deontay's strings. Wilder's more your basic henchman type, whereas the whole intricate conspiracy smacks of a master villain.

& that person is ginger & hails from west London.
Maybe Wilder felt he needed to step up?
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
ILikeBeer wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:This is clearly the work of Wilder.
Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?
In CS it's all Wilder, all the time. He's responsible for all drug tests as he runs the wbc.

Come clean, Saad. Wilder is also responsible for the opiate crisis.
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The sad thing is. Takam would be up there amongst Wilder's best wins and he's been champion for almost 3 years I think.

Pulev is better than Takam but hes a decent replacement given this short amount of time. Just Takam seems to go through the motions in his fights.
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Lenny wrote:
Datsue wrote:
ILikeBeer wrote:
Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?
:bow:

Although, obviously, it was Wilder what done it, I still feel that someone's pulling Deontay's strings. Wilder's more your basic henchman type, whereas the whole intricate conspiracy smacks of a master villain.

& that person is ginger & hails from west London.
Maybe Wilder felt he needed to step up?
:yay:
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