Eddy just sees Ortiz as a big risk and gladly ducks that.Tony1244 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Not any time recently, and Eddy Hearn indeed seems to be the coward that ignores Ortiz, as expected.
If Ortiz doesn't want to be ignored he needs to stop doing PEDs. Like Wilder, his first few years weren't fighting the best of the best either, and he had a much better amateur pedigree.
Is Eddy Hearn now part of the Axis of Evil w/ Wilder and Wilder's promoter?
Pulev injured?
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asdfjkl
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Re: Pulev injured?
Re: Pulev injured?
In an ideal world.. AJ Vs wilder as late replacement. Stiverne and takam step a side money. Say what you like about the UFC MMA and glory kickboxing we know categorically who the champs are there is none of this merry go round and both UFC and glory have worthy.late replacements if a late problem happens. how much longer we got to wait for an undisputed hw champ ? Another year or two of merry go rounds. Respect to super middleweights and.cruiserweights just getting on with it !
Re: Pulev injured?
eddie seemed to start ignoring ortiz when ortiz started looking like shit and couldnt even stop malik scott. he has little reason to be worried about just another victim for aj.
Re: Pulev injured?
The Lab says he did. You saying he didn't means nothing.asdfjkl wrote: He didn't fail any drug test this year... You can act like he did, and you might find some retards who do, but Ortiz did not use any doping this year.
Every Prisoner will tell you he's innocent too. Here's a hint, most of 'em ain't.
Re: Pulev injured?
asdfjkl wrote:Eddy just sees Ortiz as a big risk and gladly ducks that.Tony1244 wrote:asdfjkl wrote: Not any time recently, and Eddy Hearn indeed seems to be the coward that ignores Ortiz, as expected.
If Ortiz doesn't want to be ignored he needs to stop doing PEDs. Like Wilder, his first few years weren't fighting the best of the best either, and he had a much better amateur pedigree.
Is Eddy Hearn now part of the Axis of Evil w/ Wilder and Wilder's promoter?
Well, Ortiz is a MUCH Bigger risk than Pulev and Takam. But so is Baby Miller.
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asdfjkl
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Re: Pulev injured?
No, in fact the lab says he's innocent as well and so is the WBC, but you're probably one of those fanbased retards that would love this to be true as a perfect excuse for Wilder to duck him. While real druguser Stiverne and car full of drugs owner Wilder can continue to share a belt.gilgamesh wrote:The Lab says he did. You saying he didn't means nothing.asdfjkl wrote: He didn't fail any drug test this year... You can act like he did, and you might find some retards who do, but Ortiz did not use any doping this year.
Every Prisoner will tell you he's innocent too. Here's a hint, most of 'em ain't.
Re: Pulev injured?
YOU say the lab says that. You're lying though.asdfjkl wrote: No, in fact the lab says he's innocent as well and so is the WBC, but you're probably one of those fanbased retards that would love this to be true as a perfect excuse for Wilder to duck him. While real druguser Stiverne and car full of drugs owner Wilder can continue to share a belt.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Pulev injured?
All that is irrelevant, this is Joshua's IBF mandatory. Hearn did a great job of keeping the next in line ready instead of the lazy promoting that goes on in the states.
Re: Pulev injured?
All these major fights should have someone in line who is ready to go.
Hearn did well by keeping it alive.
Hearn did well by keeping it alive.
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PredatorHayds
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Re: Pulev injured?
I'm gutted about this. I'm glad that they had the back up planned, also luckily they have a exciting undercard.
But the main event is a let down.
One thing Pulev brought to the table was ambition. He would of found out he wasn't good enough early on against AJ but he'd of thrown the kitchen sink at the job like he did against Wlad. His heart and level of ambition may of caused AJ problems. Especially if Pulev set a high pace and lasted a few rounds.
I like Takam as all boxing fans do. He's a likeable durable guy with talent. But at this level I doubt his ambition. I see him feeling AJ power and size early and getting into survival mode.
He probably lasts longer than Pulev, but Pulev would of asked more questions.
But the main event is a let down.
One thing Pulev brought to the table was ambition. He would of found out he wasn't good enough early on against AJ but he'd of thrown the kitchen sink at the job like he did against Wlad. His heart and level of ambition may of caused AJ problems. Especially if Pulev set a high pace and lasted a few rounds.
I like Takam as all boxing fans do. He's a likeable durable guy with talent. But at this level I doubt his ambition. I see him feeling AJ power and size early and getting into survival mode.
He probably lasts longer than Pulev, but Pulev would of asked more questions.
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asdfjkl
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Re: Pulev injured?
Go ahead, search what the lab said, as far as I know they couldn't find any peds, like they could in Stiverne and ofcourse in Wilder his car.gilgamesh wrote:YOU say the lab says that. You're lying though.asdfjkl wrote: No, in fact the lab says he's innocent as well and so is the WBC, but you're probably one of those fanbased retards that would love this to be true as a perfect excuse for Wilder to duck him. While real druguser Stiverne and car full of drugs owner Wilder can continue to share a belt.
Re: Pulev injured?
I'm gutted too, but Pulev will get his chance I expect. Takem is a good replacement. Every one else in the top ten is either busy or chicken. Takem was told when AJ signed to fight Pulev to go into training camp and he did. Does he still have ambition? I think he does. He was gutted after the decision with Parker. He wants a title, he is fit and ready. It's the best of a bad situation. I also think he will put up as good, if not better a showing as Pulev. Tough, mobile, durable, fit and above average skills. It's a weak division once you go down past #4 and anyone below that is not going to be fight of the year. IMO AJ has already earned that right this year. Give him a break for one fight. Takem won't though.PredatorHayds wrote:I'm gutted about this. I'm glad that they had the back up planned, also luckily they have a exciting undercard.
But the main event is a let down.
One thing Pulev brought to the table was ambition. He would of found out he wasn't good enough early on against AJ but he'd of thrown the kitchen sink at the job like he did against Wlad. His heart and level of ambition may of caused AJ problems. Especially if Pulev set a high pace and lasted a few rounds.
I like Takam as all boxing fans do. He's a likeable durable guy with talent. But at this level I doubt his ambition. I see him feeling AJ power and size early and getting into survival mode.
He probably lasts longer than Pulev, but Pulev would of asked more questions.
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I don't need to search what the lab said. The fight got called off. That's all I need to know. Unlike you I understand that 2+2 = 4asdfjkl wrote:Go ahead, search what the lab said, as far as I know they couldn't find any peds, like they could in Stiverne and ofcourse in Wilder his car.gilgamesh wrote:YOU say the lab says that. You're lying though.asdfjkl wrote: No, in fact the lab says he's innocent as well and so is the WBC, but you're probably one of those fanbased retards that would love this to be true as a perfect excuse for Wilder to duck him. While real druguser Stiverne and car full of drugs owner Wilder can continue to share a belt.
Re: Pulev injured?
Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:This is clearly the work of Wilder.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Pulev injured?
In CS it's all Wilder, all the time. He's responsible for all drug tests as he runs the wbc.ILikeBeer wrote:Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:This is clearly the work of Wilder.
Re: Pulev injured?
Well, it's only Wilder.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:In CS it's all Wilder, all the time. He's responsible for all drug tests as he runs the wbc.ILikeBeer wrote:Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:This is clearly the work of Wilder.
Start making proper defences, and I might feel some sympathy.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Pulev injured?
Sympathy? I'm sure he isn't hurt by stupid posters on boxrec.ILikeBeer wrote:Well, it's only Wilder.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:In CS it's all Wilder, all the time. He's responsible for all drug tests as he runs the wbc.ILikeBeer wrote:
Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?
Start making proper defences, and I might feel some sympathy.
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Datsue
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Re: Pulev injured?
ILikeBeer wrote:Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:This is clearly the work of Wilder.
Although, obviously, it was Wilder what done it, I still feel that someone's pulling Deontay's strings. Wilder's more your basic henchman type, whereas the whole intricate conspiracy smacks of a master villain.
& that person is ginger & hails from west London.
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Re: Pulev injured?
He's fighting Carlos Takam is he not? Devalues the PPV but will it still be box office? You bet it will! Pure pish!
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Nightmare Roy
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Re: Pulev injured?
If they fought anyone other than Takam, they loose the IBF belt, simple as that.asdfjkl wrote:He didn't fail any drug test this year... You can act like he did, and you might find some retards who do, but Ortiz did not use any doping this year.gilgamesh wrote:Yes, sometime recently. He just failed a drug test for his most recent scheduled fight. That's about as recent as it gets.asdfjkl wrote: Not any time recently, and Eddy Hearn indeed seems to be the coward that ignores Ortiz, as expected.
Re: Pulev injured?
Maybe Wilder felt he needed to step up?Datsue wrote:ILikeBeer wrote:Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:This is clearly the work of Wilder.
Although, obviously, it was Wilder what done it, I still feel that someone's pulling Deontay's strings. Wilder's more your basic henchman type, whereas the whole intricate conspiracy smacks of a master villain.
& that person is ginger & hails from west London.
Re: Pulev injured?
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:In CS it's all Wilder, all the time. He's responsible for all drug tests as he runs the wbc.ILikeBeer wrote:Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:This is clearly the work of Wilder.
Come clean, Saad. Wilder is also responsible for the opiate crisis.
Re: Pulev injured?
The sad thing is. Takam would be up there amongst Wilder's best wins and he's been champion for almost 3 years I think.
Pulev is better than Takam but hes a decent replacement given this short amount of time. Just Takam seems to go through the motions in his fights.
Pulev is better than Takam but hes a decent replacement given this short amount of time. Just Takam seems to go through the motions in his fights.
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Counter-puncher
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Re: Pulev injured?
Lenny wrote:Maybe Wilder felt he needed to step up?Datsue wrote:ILikeBeer wrote:
Has boxrec stopped blaming George Groves for everything?
Although, obviously, it was Wilder what done it, I still feel that someone's pulling Deontay's strings. Wilder's more your basic henchman type, whereas the whole intricate conspiracy smacks of a master villain.
& that person is ginger & hails from west London.