Some fantasy match-ups

dagilechia
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Some fantasy match-ups

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i mean prime versions of these fighters:
Dariusz Michalczewski vs Sergey Kovalev
Grigory Drozd vs Alexander Usyk
Marco Huck vs Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
Alexander Povetkin vs David Haye
Nikolai Valuev vs Deontay Wilder
Saul Alvarez vs Oscar De La Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Miguel Cotto
how you see outcomes of these fights?
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dagilechia wrote:i mean prime versions of these fighters:
Dariusz Michalczewski vs Sergey Kovalev
Grigory Drozd vs Alexander Usyk
Marco Huck vs Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
Alexander Povetkin vs David Haye
Nikolai Valuev vs Deontay Wilder
Saul Alvarez vs Oscar De La Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Miguel Cotto
how you see outcomes of these fights?
I've got Kovalev, Usyk, Wlodarczyk, Draw, Wilder, Oscar and Marquez. No time to go into details.
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dariuz (underated and grinds kov down. good body puncher)
usyk
haye by ko or decision with lots of knockdowns
wilder by timber
de la hoya

hardest for me is wlodarzyk-huck. super even match. on neutral territory i assume. hmmmmm. i guess huck but really hard.wlod steadier but huck more explosive.
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Re: Some fantasy match-ups

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Jones-mcclellan
Tyson-joshua
Lomachenko-prince
Morales-santa cruz
GGG-monzon
Canelo-margarito
Tszyu-crawford
Gonzales-lopez
Spence-mayorga

Let your fantasy decide who would win prime against prime! :TU:
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Re: Some fantasy match-ups

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Jip wrote:Jones-mcclellan
Tyson-joshua
Lomachenko-prince
Morales-santa cruz
GGG-monzon
Canelo-margarito
Tszyu-crawford
Gonzales-lopez
Spence-mayorga

Let your fantasy decide who would win prime against prime! :TU:
Jones
Tyson
Loma
Morales
Monzon
Canelo
Crawford
Can’t pick
Spence
Jip
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Re: Some fantasy match-ups

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dagilechia wrote:i mean prime versions of these fighters:
Dariusz Michalczewski vs Sergey Kovalev
Grigory Drozd vs Alexander Usyk
Marco Huck vs Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
Alexander Povetkin vs David Haye
Nikolai Valuev vs Deontay Wilder
Saul Alvarez vs Oscar De La Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Miguel Cotto
how you see outcomes of these fights?
Marquez prime was at a totaly different weight than cottos. Same for de la hoya, who was at his best around 140-147. Huck and usyk win. Kovalev beats dariusz.
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Ossyrules wrote:
Jip wrote:Jones-mcclellan
Tyson-joshua
Lomachenko-prince
Morales-santa cruz
GGG-monzon
Canelo-margarito
Tszyu-crawford
Gonzales-lopez
Spence-mayorga

Let your fantasy decide who would win prime against prime! :TU:
Jones
Tyson
Loma
Morales
Monzon
Canelo
Crawford
Can’t pick
Spence
Why do u cant.pick spence. Spence techniquly more sound. But prime mayorga was violant hard hitting scareless puncher. If spence thought he could just walk through mayorga and leave himself open he wouldve end up on the canvas. Overall spence a better boxer thats why i would take him as the winner, but prime m was no joke.
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Jip wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
Jip wrote:Jones-mcclellan
Tyson-joshua
Lomachenko-prince
Morales-santa cruz
GGG-monzon
Canelo-margarito
Tszyu-crawford
Gonzales-lopez
Spence-mayorga

Let your fantasy decide who would win prime against prime! :TU:
Jones
Tyson
Loma
Morales
Monzon
Canelo
Crawford
Can’t pick
Spence
Why do u cant.pick spence. Spence techniquly more sound. But prime mayorga was violant hard hitting scareless puncher. If spence thought he could just walk through mayorga and leave himself open he wouldve end up on the canvas. Overall spence a better boxer thats why i would take him as the winner, but prime m was no joke.
I picked Spence over mayorga.
Can’t pick between Gonzales and Lopez. I think maybe lopez
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Ossyrules wrote:
Jip wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
Jones
Tyson
Loma
Morales
Monzon
Canelo
Crawford
Can’t pick
Spence
Why do u cant.pick spence. Spence techniquly more sound. But prime mayorga was violant hard hitting scareless puncher. If spence thought he could just walk through mayorga and leave himself open he wouldve end up on the canvas. Overall spence a better boxer thats why i would take him as the winner, but prime m was no joke.
I picked Spence over mayorga.
Can’t pick between Gonzales and Lopez. I think maybe lopez
Ok
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dagilechia wrote:i mean prime versions of these fighters:
Dariusz Michalczewski vs Sergey Kovalev
Grigory Drozd vs Alexander Usyk
Marco Huck vs Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
Alexander Povetkin vs David Haye
Nikolai Valuev vs Deontay Wilder
Saul Alvarez vs Oscar De La Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Miguel Cotto
how you see outcomes of these fights?
Honestly can't remember well enough how Dariusz or Grigory fight well enough to make predictions there. Maybe I'll refresh my memory sometime soon and come back to this. As for the other ones:

Wlodarczyk TKO11 Huck
Wlod is able to get enough through Huck's guard in a hard fight often enough to force a stoppage. Could go either way though.

Haye DEC (close) Povetkin
Against the dubiously improved Povetkin (let's not derail this thread though) that appeared after the Klitschko loss Haye is still able to control distance well enough to take a decision win. He'd also likely stop the pre-Klitschko Povetkin around round 8 or so.

Wilder DEC (close) Valuev
Wilder is able to keep on his toes and out-point Valuev over 12 dull rounds. A flash knockdown and a few very low intensity rounds make it closer than it needs to be. A vocal minority claim robbery.

Alvarez DEC (close) De La Hoya
Oscar could fight at a higher intensity than Canelo but I just have a feeling he'd let this one slip through his fingers.

Marquez KO9 Cotto (140)
Cotto DEC Marquez (147)
Younger Cotto tries to come down hard on an interloping Featherweight and comes a cropper in a painful and memorable way. The more robust version of Cotto is able to dictate terms most of the way through and gets a hard won decision.
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Jip wrote:Jones-mcclellan
Tyson-joshua
Lomachenko-prince
Morales-santa cruz
GGG-monzon
Canelo-margarito
Tszyu-crawford
Gonzales-lopez
Spence-mayorga

Let your fantasy decide who would win prime against prime! :TU:
Jones DEC (clear) McClellan
RJJ keeps McClellan guessing over 12 and maybe a flash KD punctuates his dominance.

Tyson KO3 Joshua
Joshua wouldn't stand to be pushed around and in a fire fight Tyson's power takes a toll on AJ earlier than the other way round. Joshua might not have reached his prime yet though.

Lomachenko DEC (clear) Hamed
PNH's unorthodoxy gives Loma plenty to think about early before he starts landing cleanly and clearly over the second half of the fight. Again a KD or two could add to Loma's impression of superiority on the night.

Morales DEC (very clear) Santa Cruz
If Leo wants a fight he gets out-fought, if he wants a boxing match he gets out-boxed.

Monzon DEC Golovkin
Generally having the first and last word in exchanges and being better at pacing a long fight give Monzon a hard earned decision win. Maybe he'd grind GGG out of there over 15.

Alvarez KO9 Margarito
Marg walks into Canelo's power over and over again until he can't take any more. He isn't big enough to try to grind Saul down the way he did Cotto.

Crawford KO11 Tszyu
Crawford had too many tools for KT to deal with. Should be fun early like Crawford-Gamboa but has become one-sided more than a few rounds before the end.

Don't think Gonzalez was prime at Strawweight and would get stopped by Lopez. Likewise Lopez maybe wasn't prime for his late run at Light Flyweight and would likely get out-pointed by Gonzalez.

Spence KO7 Mayorga
Don't see Mayorga making much impact on Errol who grinds him down mid-rounds.
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After all that I did have a few fantasy match-ups of my own in mind that I might as well post here:

Edwin Valero vs Adrien Broner
Frank Bruno vs Deontay Wilder
Kelly Pavlik vs Iran Barkley
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HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote:After all that I did have a few fantasy match-ups of my own in mind that I might as well post here:

Edwin Valero vs Adrien Broner
Frank Bruno vs Deontay Wilder
Kelly Pavlik vs Iran Barkley
Valero crushes Broners heart and stops him late.
Bruno at his best beats Wilder within 6
Pavlik beats Barkley on points but has to climb off the floor to do it
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Re: Some fantasy match-ups

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Eggington vs Leonard
Eggington vs Robinson
Eggington vs Hagler
Eggington vs Hearns
Eggington vs Whitaker
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Jip wrote:Jones-mcclellan
Tyson-Joshua Joshua by RTD
Lomachenko-prince Pick em
Morales-santa cruz Morales by UD
GGG-monzon Monzon by MD
Canelo-margarito Canelo late TKO
Tszyu-crawford Crawford by split decision
Gonzales-lopez Lopez
Spence-mayorga Spence mid late TKO in exciting fight

Let your fantasy decide who would win prime against prime! :TU:
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Jip wrote:
dagilechia wrote:i mean prime versions of these fighters:
Dariusz Michalczewski vs Sergey Kovalev
Grigory Drozd vs Alexander Usyk
Marco Huck vs Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
Alexander Povetkin vs David Haye
Nikolai Valuev vs Deontay Wilder
Saul Alvarez vs Oscar De La Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Miguel Cotto
how you see outcomes of these fights?
Marquez prime was at a totaly different weight than cottos. Same for de la hoya, who was at his best around 140-147. Huck and usyk win. Kovalev beats dariusz.

I think DLH at 154 still gives Canelo major trouble
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dagilechia wrote:i mean prime versions of these fighters:
Dariusz Michalczewski vs Sergey Kovalev
Grigory Drozd vs Alexander Usyk
Marco Huck vs Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
Alexander Povetkin vs David Haye
Nikolai Valuev vs Deontay Wilder
Saul Alvarez vs Oscar De La Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Miguel Cotto
how you see outcomes of these fights?
Kovalev is more skilled, but Michalczewski is tougher IMO. Both are/were very good punchers. Tough call. Probably Kovalev by UD, but I wouldn't be surprised if Michalczewski scored come-from-behind KO victory.
Usyk TKO11 Drozd
Wlodarczyk MD12 Huck
Haye close decision (with a couple of KDs) against Povetkin
Wilder KTFO3 Valuev (Valuev will be too wide-open for Wilder's windmilling punches)
Alvarez would beat washed up 160 lbs verion of ODLH, at 154 ODLH would beat him
Marquez MD12 Cotto (at 140 or 147)
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HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote:After all that I did have a few fantasy match-ups of my own in mind that I might as well post here:

Edwin Valero vs Adrien Broner
Frank Bruno vs Deontay Wilder
Kelly Pavlik vs Iran Barkley
Broner beats Valero down
Bruno decks wilder
Barkley wins a war vs pavlik
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TheGingerBomber wrote:Eggington vs Leonard
Eggington vs Robinson
Eggington vs Hagler
Eggington vs Hearns
Eggington vs Whitaker
Eggington too skilled for Robinson
Too tough for hagler
Too powerful for Hearns
Out slicks sweet pea
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HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote:After all that I did have a few fantasy match-ups of my own in mind that I might as well post here:

Edwin Valero vs Adrien Broner
Frank Bruno vs Deontay Wilder
Kelly Pavlik vs Iran Barkley
Valero KO 8 Broner
Wilder KO 10 Bruno (after a tough fight)
Pavlik UD 12 Barkley
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i am very surprised that most of people think Wlodarczyk would beat Huck, i think Wlodarczyk at prime should win but im surprised because expected reverse predictions as Huck is better known fighter for most of people i think
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dagilechia wrote:i mean prime versions of these fighters:
Dariusz Michalczewski vs Sergey Kovalev
Grigory Drozd vs Alexander Usyk
Marco Huck vs Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
Alexander Povetkin vs David Haye
Nikolai Valuev vs Deontay Wilder
Saul Alvarez vs Oscar De La Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Miguel Cotto
how you see outcomes of these fights?
Kovalev by KO.. Usyk by D.. Huck by SD.. Povetkin by D.. Wilder by D.. Alvarez by KO.. Cotto by D.
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i would like to add Arthur Abraham vs Mikkel Kessler
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Jip wrote:
dagilechia wrote:i mean prime versions of these fighters:
Dariusz Michalczewski vs Sergey Kovalev
Grigory Drozd vs Alexander Usyk
Marco Huck vs Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
Alexander Povetkin vs David Haye
Nikolai Valuev vs Deontay Wilder
Saul Alvarez vs Oscar De La Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Miguel Cotto
how you see outcomes of these fights?
Marquez prime was at a totaly different weight than cottos. Same for de la hoya, who was at his best around 140-147. Huck and usyk win. Kovalev beats dariusz.
Agreed, of course you did the same thing with canelo/margarito & Jones/McClellan.
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dagilechia wrote:i would like to add Arthur Abraham vs Mikkel Kessler
kessler had more to him. would win clear decision.
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