Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

Who is a tougher fight?

Poll ended at 31 Oct 2017, 10:14

Wilder
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33%
Fury
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67%
 
Total votes: 30

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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Ossyrules wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You said you don't understand how someone could give Wilder a better chance and then acknowledge Wilder has a punchers chance while stating you don't see fury being able to avoid an onslaught from aj.
Think they both get beat but fury is the tougher fight
You're entitled to that opinion. I disagree and you outlined exactly why after saying you had no idea how anyone could feel that way. I think Joshua stops both of them too, I've considered him the best heavy for many years. When wlad was still champ.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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jamamb wrote:for me theres just no 'out' for fury due to his lack of power whereas wilders power gives him a not very big but still realistic shot. aside from having power to ko joshua i think even if deontay lost he could still get ajs respect and make him hesistant. fury cant do it at all.
Deontay is probably harder to hit, yeah, I know, Tyson is dazzling, etc...
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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I’d like to say we’ll find out wh the tougher fight is but sadly we won’t, really don’t see the fury fights being made anyway.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Fury will never have a meaningful fight again.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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gilgamesh wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:Lol, there have been about half a dozen carbon copies of how this thread pans out.

Band A: Pernell Fury would dance around Joshua and make him look silly.
Band B: Joshua would have little trouble in knocking him out.

All I can say is that I'm sad this won't happen, or at least won't happen with Fury at his best, because I would have made an absolute killing on Joshua walking through that big goon.
Pernell Fury :lol:

Yes I find it pretty hilarious that there are people out there who would apparently call Fury one of the all time great Heavyweight defenders apparently.

Getting knocked down hard by a Cruiserweight, and winning a staring contest is all it takes I guess :lol:
Klitschko lost that fight, rather than Fury winning it. Wlad didn’t throw a punch.

The Klitschko that AJ beat would be entirely different.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Loki wrote:
Klitschko lost that fight, rather than Fury winning it. Wlad didn’t throw a punch.

The Klitschko that AJ beat would be entirely different.
Wlad didn't throw vs Fury because he was made uncomfortable. That would never change unless we are talking about pre Sanders version of Wlad.

Fury is awkward, and so is Wilder to a degree. An awkward boxer is usually harder to beat than an awkward puncher. So, I gotta go with Calzaghe.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
jamamb wrote:for me theres just no 'out' for fury due to his lack of power whereas wilders power gives him a not very big but still realistic shot. aside from having power to ko joshua i think even if deontay lost he could still get ajs respect and make him hesistant. fury cant do it at all.
Deontay is probably harder to hit, yeah, I know, Tyson is dazzling, etc...
Fury’s harder to hit than wilder. More defensive fighter, doesn’t engage as much. Very awkward opponent
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Blodhemn wrote:
Loki wrote:
Klitschko lost that fight, rather than Fury winning it. Wlad didn’t throw a punch.

The Klitschko that AJ beat would be entirely different.
Wlad didn't throw vs Fury because he was made uncomfortable. That would never change unless we are talking about pre Sanders version of Wlad.

Fury is awkward, and so is Wilder to a degree. An awkward boxer is usually harder to beat than an awkward puncher. So, I gotta go with Calzaghe.
Agree with this. I’m not a fury fan but his win over Wlad doesn’t really get the credit he’s due. The fight was a stinker from an entertainment point of view, but safety first defensive boxers exist in the game, and this is what they serve up
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Ossyrules wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
jamamb wrote:for me theres just no 'out' for fury due to his lack of power whereas wilders power gives him a not very big but still realistic shot. aside from having power to ko joshua i think even if deontay lost he could still get ajs respect and make him hesistant. fury cant do it at all.
Deontay is probably harder to hit, yeah, I know, Tyson is dazzling, etc...
Fury’s harder to hit than wilder. More defensive fighter, doesn’t engage as much. Very awkward opponent
Fury moves more fluidly, but he's very poor defensively. Not that Wilder is good in that department.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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but mate the great christain hammer could barely hit him :-x
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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jamamb wrote:but mate the great christain hammer could barely hit him :-x
Fury can be mocked, he’s a facking idiot, but if he fights on the back foot at range he’s a tricky customer. Wlad has been the man for ten years and couldn’t get to him till round 12. You can say Wlad was awful that fight, but part of the reason for that was due to fury
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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They both looked awful. Fury did show a lot of improvement going from punching himself and a punchline to a champion. Almost getting stopped by chisora to dominating him in the rematch. Perhaps his wide open chin against wlad was some new wave ninja style I'm not familiar with.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:They both looked awful. Fury did show a lot of improvement going from punching himself and a punchline to a champion. Almost getting stopped by chisora to dominating him in the rematch. Perhaps his wide open chin against wlad was some new wave ninja style I'm not familiar with.
2 negative fighters serve up a stinker should we be shocked? Wlad had it in his locker to be more aggressive but didn’t.

It sounds like I’m a fury fan and I’m really not, but decisioning Wlad in Germany takes a level of competence at the very least
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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I like fury, he makes me laugh and had some entertaining fights pre wlad. I just find it impossible that he could reduce Joshua or Wilder to throwing 10 punches a round with the same tactics.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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For me, Fury in shape, is the best heavyweight out there.
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