That's one more than Stiverne landedSyntax Error wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 12:50Harrison only made it to the 3rd round because Haye let him.
Haye said after the fight that he had a bet on the 3rd, hence why he carried Harrison.
From what I can remember, Harrison landed one jab all fight.![]()
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Would you have done better than Bermane?
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I agree with you wholeheartedly gp but that of course assumes you are professional, take pride in your performance, care about your reputation, and give a flying one about the paying punter. I dunno about you but it didn't look to me like Stiverne had spent much of his time working out.gp. wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 11:29Professional sport is an entertainment business. It's like saying why should Frank Sinatra bother rehearsing for a farewell concert. You rehearse, or train, because people are paying to watch you and you owe it to them to give your best performance.candyslim wrote: ↑06 Nov 2017, 04:05 Bermane got extremely well paid for less than three minutes of suffering. He was probably wondering what would be the point of training hard for the sole purpose of prolonging his misery in the ring. Let's face it he didn't come close to winning last time when he was younger and in shape, what chance would he have this time?
He got his purse plus step-aside money without having had to do any work for two years. Hopefully he now disappears into the sunset and we never have to endure the prospect of him "fighting" again ... unless of course the WBC figure he's done enough that they should make it a trilogy![]()
One of your better decisions I expect Gil. I watched that fight again just recently (I know, don't ask) and I was wondering why Haye looked so timid in the first couple of rounds, it was like Audrey could bang like Wilder. I never heard it said that he'd bet on the round but it certainly would explain a lot.gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 11:37Harrison made it into the 3rd though didn't he? Surely he at least threw more punches than Stiverne did. I never saw that one actually, but I know what went down...never really felt the need to seek out the fight. Didn't sound like it was much of one![]()
Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?
If you guys are looking for a Stiverne-like performance, Duane Bobick against Norton and John Tate may have thrown one soft missed right hand in both fights combined.gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 13:04That's one more than Stiverne landedSyntax Error wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 12:50Harrison only made it to the 3rd round because Haye let him.
Haye said after the fight that he had a bet on the 3rd, hence why he carried Harrison.
From what I can remember, Harrison landed one jab all fight.![]()
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?
It's worse when you have to hammer an inept fighter to death to get him out of there...
Rademacher wouldn't quit against Patterson... Floyd got bored with having to beat Rademacher into the canvas so many times til he was out.
Rademacher wouldn't quit against Patterson... Floyd got bored with having to beat Rademacher into the canvas so many times til he was out.
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?
Duane Bobick I understand the comment about him.Tony1244 wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 14:59If you guys are looking for a Stiverne-like performance, Duane Bobick against Norton and John Tate may have thrown one soft missed right hand in both fights combined.gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 13:04That's one more than Stiverne landedSyntax Error wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 12:50
Harrison only made it to the 3rd round because Haye let him.
Haye said after the fight that he had a bet on the 3rd, hence why he carried Harrison.
From what I can remember, Harrison landed one jab all fight.![]()
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Name one fight where John Tate showed such a performance. Rate is far from great but he was winning against Weaver when knocked out late. He lost to a Prime Berbick. Only other loss he has was at the tale end of his career
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Not saying Norton and Tate were bad at all. Norton was excellent, a near great, and Tate was very good for a short period of time.tiny_acres wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 16:02Duane Bobick I understand the comment about him.
Name one fight where John Tate showed such a performance. Rate is far from great but he was winning against Weaver when knocked out late. He lost to a Prime Berbick. Only other loss he has was at the tale end of his career
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?
Fully trained (12 weeks
) with equal PEDs,
I could easily decision Wilder.
I could easily decision Wilder.
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He said"Duane Bobick against Norton and John Tate". Not "Duane Bobick against Norton, and John Tate".tiny_acres wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 16:02Duane Bobick I understand the comment about him.
Name one fight where John Tate showed such a performance. Rate is far from great but he was winning against Weaver when knocked out late. He lost to a Prime Berbick. Only other loss he has was at the tale end of his career
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?
I caught it later. Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part.gp. wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 20:28He said"Duane Bobick against Norton and John Tate". Not "Duane Bobick against Norton, and John Tate".tiny_acres wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 16:02Duane Bobick I understand the comment about him.
Name one fight where John Tate showed such a performance. Rate is far from great but he was winning against Weaver when knocked out late. He lost to a Prime Berbick. Only other loss he has was at the tale end of his career
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I remember a bit of controversy connected to the fight between Gerrie Coetzee and Big John Tate. Tate was, how should I put it, er romantically involved with a South African woman who I believe was an actress or some other local celebrity. Of course back then in South Africa such an encounter between a white woman and a black man was not greeted with universal approval and caused something of a stink.
I think it may have been the Ring Magazine, I don't recall but someone was quoted as saying something like "I don't know what all the fuss is about. Whatever you say about Miss xxxxxxx, she got a lot closer to John Tate than Coetzee ever did". It made me laugh especially because it was so out of tune with the solemnity of it all.
I think it may have been the Ring Magazine, I don't recall but someone was quoted as saying something like "I don't know what all the fuss is about. Whatever you say about Miss xxxxxxx, she got a lot closer to John Tate than Coetzee ever did". It made me laugh especially because it was so out of tune with the solemnity of it all.
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?
The only thing I would have done was run around that ring like usain bolt.. I might have seen the second or third round until I collapsed from a jab exhausted of course 
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Me too only substitute "round" for "minute"
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?
I wouldn't do any better against Wilder, but I probably could have knocked out Stiverne.