Would you have done better than Bermane?

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gilgamesh
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

Post by gilgamesh »

Syntax Error wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 12:50
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 11:37
gp. wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 11:21

Haye-Harrison, possibly.
Harrison made it into the 3rd though didn't he? Surely he at least threw more punches than Stiverne did. I never saw that one actually, but I know what went down...never really felt the need to seek out the fight. Didn't sound like it was much of one :lol:
Harrison only made it to the 3rd round because Haye let him.

Haye said after the fight that he had a bet on the 3rd, hence why he carried Harrison.

From what I can remember, Harrison landed one jab all fight. :o :oo
That's one more than Stiverne landed :lol:
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

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gp. wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 11:29
candyslim wrote: 06 Nov 2017, 04:05 Bermane got extremely well paid for less than three minutes of suffering. He was probably wondering what would be the point of training hard for the sole purpose of prolonging his misery in the ring. Let's face it he didn't come close to winning last time when he was younger and in shape, what chance would he have this time?

He got his purse plus step-aside money without having had to do any work for two years. Hopefully he now disappears into the sunset and we never have to endure the prospect of him "fighting" again ... unless of course the WBC figure he's done enough that they should make it a trilogy :doh:
Professional sport is an entertainment business. It's like saying why should Frank Sinatra bother rehearsing for a farewell concert. You rehearse, or train, because people are paying to watch you and you owe it to them to give your best performance.
I agree with you wholeheartedly gp but that of course assumes you are professional, take pride in your performance, care about your reputation, and give a flying one about the paying punter. I dunno about you but it didn't look to me like Stiverne had spent much of his time working out.
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 11:37
gp. wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 11:21
gilgamesh wrote: 05 Nov 2017, 01:55

I mean even when John Ruiz got wrecked by David Tua in 19 seconds he still managed to throw 3 meaningful jabs first :lol:

That wasn't a title fight though.

Nah I don't think I could think of a more one sided title fight. Not off the top of my head.
Haye-Harrison, possibly.
Harrison made it into the 3rd though didn't he? Surely he at least threw more punches than Stiverne did. I never saw that one actually, but I know what went down...never really felt the need to seek out the fight. Didn't sound like it was much of one :lol:
One of your better decisions I expect Gil. I watched that fight again just recently (I know, don't ask) and I was wondering why Haye looked so timid in the first couple of rounds, it was like Audrey could bang like Wilder. I never heard it said that he'd bet on the round but it certainly would explain a lot.
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

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gilgamesh wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 13:04
Syntax Error wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 12:50
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 11:37

Harrison made it into the 3rd though didn't he? Surely he at least threw more punches than Stiverne did. I never saw that one actually, but I know what went down...never really felt the need to seek out the fight. Didn't sound like it was much of one :lol:
Harrison only made it to the 3rd round because Haye let him.

Haye said after the fight that he had a bet on the 3rd, hence why he carried Harrison.

From what I can remember, Harrison landed one jab all fight. :o :oo
That's one more than Stiverne landed :lol:
If you guys are looking for a Stiverne-like performance, Duane Bobick against Norton and John Tate may have thrown one soft missed right hand in both fights combined.
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

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It's worse when you have to hammer an inept fighter to death to get him out of there...

Rademacher wouldn't quit against Patterson... Floyd got bored with having to beat Rademacher into the canvas so many times til he was out.
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

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Tony1244 wrote: 11 Nov 2017, 14:59
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 13:04
Syntax Error wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 12:50

Harrison only made it to the 3rd round because Haye let him.

Haye said after the fight that he had a bet on the 3rd, hence why he carried Harrison.

From what I can remember, Harrison landed one jab all fight. :o :oo
That's one more than Stiverne landed :lol:
If you guys are looking for a Stiverne-like performance, Duane Bobick against Norton and John Tate may have thrown one soft missed right hand in both fights combined.
Duane Bobick I understand the comment about him.
Name one fight where John Tate showed such a performance. Rate is far from great but he was winning against Weaver when knocked out late. He lost to a Prime Berbick. Only other loss he has was at the tale end of his career
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

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tiny_acres wrote: 11 Nov 2017, 16:02
Tony1244 wrote: 11 Nov 2017, 14:59
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 13:04

That's one more than Stiverne landed :lol:
If you guys are looking for a Stiverne-like performance, Duane Bobick against Norton and John Tate may have thrown one soft missed right hand in both fights combined.
Duane Bobick I understand the comment about him.
Name one fight where John Tate showed such a performance. Rate is far from great but he was winning against Weaver when knocked out late. He lost to a Prime Berbick. Only other loss he has was at the tale end of his career
Not saying Norton and Tate were bad at all. Norton was excellent, a near great, and Tate was very good for a short period of time.
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

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Fully trained (12 weeks :o ) with equal PEDs,
I could easily decision Wilder.
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

Post by gp. »

tiny_acres wrote: 11 Nov 2017, 16:02
Tony1244 wrote: 11 Nov 2017, 14:59
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Nov 2017, 13:04

That's one more than Stiverne landed :lol:
If you guys are looking for a Stiverne-like performance, Duane Bobick against Norton and John Tate may have thrown one soft missed right hand in both fights combined.
Duane Bobick I understand the comment about him.
Name one fight where John Tate showed such a performance. Rate is far from great but he was winning against Weaver when knocked out late. He lost to a Prime Berbick. Only other loss he has was at the tale end of his career
He said"Duane Bobick against Norton and John Tate". Not "Duane Bobick against Norton, and John Tate".
tiny_acres
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

Post by tiny_acres »

gp. wrote: 11 Nov 2017, 20:28
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Nov 2017, 16:02
Tony1244 wrote: 11 Nov 2017, 14:59

If you guys are looking for a Stiverne-like performance, Duane Bobick against Norton and John Tate may have thrown one soft missed right hand in both fights combined.
Duane Bobick I understand the comment about him.
Name one fight where John Tate showed such a performance. Rate is far from great but he was winning against Weaver when knocked out late. He lost to a Prime Berbick. Only other loss he has was at the tale end of his career
He said"Duane Bobick against Norton and John Tate". Not "Duane Bobick against Norton, and John Tate".
I caught it later. Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part.
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

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I remember a bit of controversy connected to the fight between Gerrie Coetzee and Big John Tate. Tate was, how should I put it, er romantically involved with a South African woman who I believe was an actress or some other local celebrity. Of course back then in South Africa such an encounter between a white woman and a black man was not greeted with universal approval and caused something of a stink.

I think it may have been the Ring Magazine, I don't recall but someone was quoted as saying something like "I don't know what all the fuss is about. Whatever you say about Miss xxxxxxx, she got a lot closer to John Tate than Coetzee ever did". It made me laugh especially because it was so out of tune with the solemnity of it all.
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

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Trained :maybe:
In the know 85
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

Post by In the know 85 »

The only thing I would have done was run around that ring like usain bolt.. I might have seen the second or third round until I collapsed from a jab exhausted of course :lol:
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

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Me too only substitute "round" for "minute"
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

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I wouldn't do any better against Wilder, but I probably could have knocked out Stiverne.
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Re: Would you have done better than Bermane?

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Grailer wrote: 05 Nov 2017, 12:09 Charlie Zelenhof did better than Sterverne

I just came on to post that. :lol: he did indeed do better
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