Tyson Fury legal fight 'could bankrupt' UK Anti-Doping

[Andrew]

My thoughts: is it possible for Ukad to manage the Tyson Fury case in an impartial and objective manner, given the fact that they have a vested interest to deliver an unfavourable outcome against the 'Gypsy King'?

Did Ukad intentionally procrastinate and delay their handling of the Tyson Fury case, due to the obviously dire implications to themselves for the possibility of clearing the 'Gypsy King'?

Here are some timeline facts that appear to support such a notion:

* February 2015: The sample that ultimately led to Tyson Fury being charged with a doping offence was taken (as confirmed by Ukad)

* 24 June 2016: Ukad charges Fury with a doping offence

September 2016: Refused UKAD drug test and tested positive for cocaine from VADA test.

* 12 May 2017: Ukad doping hearing is postponed, quashing hopes of July return

A date has still not been set for Tyson Fury's hearing with Ukad, but it's expected that it won't take place until 2018.

I've added the bit in bold which is very important. This is what I think he will eventually get banned for. Going off previous cases it is generally a two year ban. In that case ruling Tyson out until late next year.

[Andrew]

Whatever you think of UKAD the delays make them look bad - but remember even the Furies except there was something "illegal" in his sample.
Just that they argue it came from meat not steriods

This is deadly serious for Tyson.
He could be facing 12 years of bans in the worst case scenario

A lot of the time I always suspect the worst for these type of things, no smoke without fire type thinking. I’m not saying it’s enough to convict him, I haven’t all the evidence, but when you smell a rat, it’s normally a rat

The things that confuse me are though

- why did the Wlad fight go ahead after a ped test came back positive

- hughie went thru the same thing but has gone on to fight Parker. Both claimed the meat defence

In answer to your points.

The Wlad fight going ahead is a big one and that will only get answered when this is all done. There is talk of Fury suing UKAD if cleared of everything.. and he rightfully should as he could have made huge money by now.

BUT if Fury is found guilty of testing positive from Feb 2015 then he should have been banned from that point and the Wlad fight should never have happened. Surely then Wlad would get his own legal team to see if he can claim anything. Fury being guilty of that charge would mean he fought and lost to a guy who should have been banned and UKAD never disclosed it.


As or Hughie again no clarification what so ever. Him and Tyson both have the Nandrolone charge and neither have been cleared or banned. The only thing that makes sense is that Tyson refused the drug test last year hence why he hasn't been able to fight yet Hughie has because he has no other doping issues.

[Andrew]

...I don't buy Tyson's excuses and believe he's just another doper trying to get away with it just as expected...having said that, I'm not aware of any reasonable explanation as to why it has been taking such a long time to come up with a hearing and solve the case...

This answers that question

https://www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/st ... tyson-fury

In particular the point below.

All parties are currently awaiting a ruling from the NADP tribunal on an application made by the athletes to exclude certain evidence

[Enlightened-One]

My thoughts: is it possible for Ukad to manage the Tyson Fury case in an impartial and objective manner, given the fact that they have a vested interest to deliver an unfavourable outcome against the 'Gypsy King'?

Did Ukad intentionally procrastinate and delay their handling of the Tyson Fury case, due to the obviously dire implications to themselves for the possibility of clearing the 'Gypsy King'?

Here are some timeline facts that appear to support such a notion:

* February 2015: The sample that ultimately led to Tyson Fury being charged with a doping offence was taken (as confirmed by Ukad)

* 24 June 2016: Ukad charges Fury with a doping offence

September 2016: Refused UKAD drug test and tested positive for cocaine from VADA test.

* 12 May 2017: Ukad doping hearing is postponed, quashing hopes of July return

A date has still not been set for Tyson Fury's hearing with Ukad, but it's expected that it won't take place until 2018.

I've added the bit in bold which is very important. This is what I think he will eventually get banned for. Going off previous cases it is generally a two year ban. In that case ruling Tyson out until late next year.

When Tyson Fury tested positive for cocaine in September 2016, the test itself was administered by VADA, which has nothing whatsoever to do with UKAD.

However, cocaine is not prohibited by the WADA code when it is taken out-of-competition and Tyson Fury also provided medical evidence that proved irrefutably that he was medically unfit and was consuming this drug to help battle depression.

Recreational drugs, like cocaine and marijuana, aren’t performance enhancing, so they’re only banned when they are detected in-competition.

The reason why these drugs are banned in the first place, whilst in-competition only, is due to the fact that it’s believed that the only purpose they serve is to damage health, impair judgment and adversely affect the image of the sport itself.

If recreational drugs like cocaine and marijuana were banned out-of-competition, then VADA would have been legally compelled to immediately test and then ban Deontay Wilder for consuming marijuana when ‘The Bronze Bomber’ was arrested and charged for being in possession of it.

Simply put: Tyson Fury testing positive for cocaine in September 2016 by VADA is a completely separate issue to the legal battle that the ‘Gypsy King’ is currently facing with UKAD and the BBBofC, with this unrelated matter only within the scope of him testing positive for banned anabolic steroids during February 2015.

Tyson Fury did not receive a ban from VADA for testing positive for cocaine in September 2016.

[Enlightened-One]

...I don't buy Tyson's excuses and believe he's just another doper trying to get away with it just as expected...having said that, I'm not aware of any reasonable explanation as to why it has been taking such a long time to come up with a hearing and solve the case...

This answers that question

https://www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/st ... tyson-fury

In particular the point below.

All parties are currently awaiting a ruling from the NADP tribunal on an application made by the athletes to exclude certain evidence

The problem with this claim was the fact that the BBBofC flatly-refused to explain this stance when multiple attempts were made by several journalists to obtain clarification from their chairman Robert Smith.

Whilst Robert Smith was happy to tell Sky Sports that Fury’s legal team were responsible for agreeing a new date for the hearing from UKAD, this wasn’t actually communicated to them… and the BBBofC also refused to attend a face-to-face interview with Tyson to expand on this point.

We also know for certain that there are widespread media reports whereby UKAD are fearful of going bankrupt if Tyson Fury decides to file a lawsuit for loss of earnings. There has to be a logical reason for this fear, which has progressed to the point where they’re seeking governmental support to underwrite the case?

Hennessy Sports have confirmed that if the outcome of the UKAD hearing goes against Tyson, then he potentially faces another two years on the side-lines… and that Fury then would “seek to be compensated for the prolonged delay in opening a hearing through an independent panel.”

They also commented on the British Boxing Board of Control’s attempt to blame Team Fury for not scheduling a revised formal hearing date with UKAD date.

I’ll concede that there are two sides to every story and it’s entirely possible that Fury could possibly be guilty of consuming anabolic steroids in February 2015… However, it’s categorically impossible to justify UKAD’s handling of this matter, since their behaviour is clearly inconsistent to how they dealt with similar cases relating to lesser profile fighters.

[Thomastearns]

...I don't buy Tyson's excuses and believe he's just another doper trying to get away with it just as expected...having said that, I'm not aware of any reasonable explanation as to why it has been taking such a long time to come up with a hearing and solve the case...

This answers that question

https://www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/st ... tyson-fury

In particular the point below.

All parties are currently awaiting a ruling from the NADP tribunal on an application made by the athletes to exclude certain evidence

So he's threatening to sue UKAD for a delay that he himself has requested? If all the evidence of, say, the last 3-5 years could be ignored (diminished responsibility) then he'll be fine.

He's walking a fine line and drifting ever deeper into his victimisation mindset. Instead of getting treatment he seems to be living in denial and digging a bigger hole for himself. If he loses this case, I think we can all see the outcome.

[Boxerbeetle]

If Fury ever did attempt to sue UKAD for loss of earnings, I suspect his many tweets declaring himself ‘retired’ would undermine his position somewhat.

[Enlightened-One]

If Fury ever did attempt to sue UKAD for loss of earnings, I suspect his many tweets declaring himself ‘retired’ would undermine his position somewhat.

The bottom line - it won’t affect the situation one iota.

[Boxerbeetle]

If Fury ever did attempt to sue UKAD for loss of earnings, I suspect his many tweets declaring himself ‘retired’ would undermine his position somewhat.

The bottom line - it won’t affect the situation one iota.

True, because there is no way that Fury would ever try to sue UKAD.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

It’s dragged on terribly, but I have no doubt that fury has contributed toward his own delay settling this situation.

It’s hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel though

Fury probably loves it, it gives him an excuse for something he isn't going to do anyway. Plus he got away with using peds for the biggest fight he'll ever have. Win/win

[Enlightened-One]

Plus he got away with using peds for the biggest fight he'll ever have. Win/win

Tyson got done for PED's during February 2015. Which opponent of Fury's are you referring to?

[BitPlayer]

If Fury ever did attempt to sue UKAD for loss of earnings, I suspect his many tweets declaring himself ‘retired’ would undermine his position somewhat.

There's probably a decent case he could make that a lot of that was due to the problems UKAD were causing him. If he had a good lawyer.