tell me about adonis

Post Reply
jamamb
Lightweight
Posts: 14329
Joined: 17 Sep 2017, 05:37

tell me about adonis

Post by jamamb »

this guy back around 2013 looked like a serious talent to me. speed,one of the top p4p punchers in the sport, boxing and countering skills. he destroyed dawson, cloud, and bellew. bellew now has had a really good career. ppl made a deal out of the fonfara fight but really stevenson won like 9 rounds in that and fonfara was no bum.

why did his opposition get so much lamer when he was showing so much? ive always thought he wouldve kod kovalev and i think hes underachieved. i think hes, or at least was, level above guys like bert, bivol, barrera, gvdzyk etc. still at nearly 40 i think on purely ability hes arguably top at lhw. i rate him top 3 with kov and jack.
gilgamesh
Cruiserweight
Posts: 46455
Joined: 02 Sep 2010, 16:21

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by gilgamesh »

Good fighter, with a powerful straight left that has defended his title against some of the softest competition of any Champion going since winning the title, and has diminished the significance of the Championship he won.

40 years old now, and ready to be taken...even if he continues to try to hand pick his opponents.
Ruthless-RKO
Welterweight
Posts: 101507
Joined: 24 Apr 2016, 11:59

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

He has the ability to beat all the top guys at 175.. he's just not taken the fights. I doubt he's ever earned even a $1m purse..
Kalan
Super Middleweight
Posts: 10083
Joined: 23 Sep 2012, 23:22

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by Kalan »

He's a flat out Chickenshitt who isn't any good -- as Darnell Boone proved when he knocked Chickenshitt out.

Dawson was already washed up when he fought Chickenson... as Jean Pascal previously proved... Chickenson has beaten nobody... When Joe Smith knocked Fonfara out very easily in the first round -- that's when Al Haymon considered Fonfara a viable title contender for a redo.
barry
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 3797
Joined: 28 Dec 2001, 20:00

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by barry »

Stevenson is pretty one dimensional...that left is his everything, but if he can land it he can knock out anyone...though I think Kovalev would absolutely destroy Stevenson.
KiwiRider
Super Lightweight
Posts: 26529
Joined: 11 Feb 2017, 22:25

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by KiwiRider »

I think he is more than a great left KO punch.
He can move really well, and is tricky to hit and has a lot of experience.
Unfortunately he will probably retire with the belt before he ever proves it against the top guys.

Adonis (pronounced; a-duck-is)
Latin. Meaning he who ducks.
Verb.
Aducked, Aducking, Aducker.
In a sentence;
I threw the Frisbee at his head and he Aducked it.
jamamb
Lightweight
Posts: 14329
Joined: 17 Sep 2017, 05:37

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by jamamb »

he also has a good right jab and though his powershot is all the left he mixes the cross to the head with left crosses and long hooks to the body. and ya, speed, movement, timing to go with the brutal left
Stuarty
Super Welterweight
Posts: 27293
Joined: 20 Aug 2014, 10:28

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by Stuarty »

Big pimpng baby!!!!
gilgamesh
Cruiserweight
Posts: 46455
Joined: 02 Sep 2010, 16:21

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by gilgamesh »

Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Nov 2017, 19:16 He has the ability to beat all the top guys at 175.. he's just not taken the fights. I doubt he's ever earned even a $1m purse..
I don't think he has the ability to beat all the top guys at 175, and I don't think his management thinks that either. That's why he's never fought the top guys in spite of reigning as Light Heavyweight Champion for several years now.

His title win still remains his best win to date, and probably always will remain so because he hasn't had the guts to test himself against the better guys in the division.

I'd take Kovalev, Beterbiev, or Gvozdyk to beat him.

Eleider Alvarez or Badou Jack I'd favor over him as well, but those are winnable fights for Stevenson at least.
Kalan
Super Middleweight
Posts: 10083
Joined: 23 Sep 2012, 23:22

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by Kalan »

jamamb wrote: 27 Nov 2017, 23:11 he also has a good right jab and though his powershot is all the left he mixes the cross to the head with left crosses and long hooks to the body. and ya, speed, movement, timing to go with the brutal left
You missed the fight where 2nd rater Darnell Boone knocked him out... And you missed 2nd rater Fonfara knocking him down and hurting him... Chickenson isn't a real good boxer or defender.. He's wide open.. He's a 2-round job for Kovalev.
bmilligan
Welterweight
Posts: 104
Joined: 25 Oct 2015, 15:01

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by bmilligan »

He was prime form when he beat Bellew, I believe. Mix of bad promoting and not making the big fight with Pascal/Hopkins/Kovalev hurt his stock and led him to fight PBC on Cable TV.

With his second bout with Fonfara, I think that killed alot of his popularity. With the fights with Seanie and Smith Jr. a bust.
Boxerbeetle
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 32750
Joined: 19 Sep 2011, 10:59

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by Boxerbeetle »

Never really rated Adonis particular highly. Huge puncher obviously, but I always felt Froch would have battered him at 168 and all the top 175 guys beat him too (Kovalev would absolutely destroy him). As Gil points out above, it seems Adonis’s management have similar feelings as they’ve never been keen to match him hard.
Heretic
Super Middleweight
Posts: 2046
Joined: 28 Oct 2012, 07:18

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by Heretic »

There is usually a good reason to protect fighter. The team knows something that the public does not.

It is better to have the belt and fight for peanuts then to take a loss in slightly bigger match. With the belt there is always chance to cash in on big fight. Maybe ward if he comes back? He is not that big draw thou...

Same situation with Wilder...
Last edited by Heretic on 29 Nov 2017, 08:09, edited 1 time in total.
TooMuch
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 215
Joined: 23 Jun 2004, 07:10

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by TooMuch »

Heretic wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 07:38 It is better to have the belt and fight for peanuts then to take a loss in slightly bigger match. With the belt there is always chance to cash in on big fight.
Well said :TU:
caldo2025
Super Welterweight
Posts: 4417
Joined: 16 Dec 2014, 07:37

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by caldo2025 »

Idiotic Post from an Idiot.
jamamb
Lightweight
Posts: 14329
Joined: 17 Sep 2017, 05:37

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by jamamb »

caldo2025 wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 08:44 Idiotic Post from an Idiot.
:lol:
Evander
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 14049
Joined: 07 May 2005, 16:49

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by Evander »

I always thought Stevenson was looking for that one off fight that would make him financially stable, because he's done F all against anyone for ages.
Does his name sill carry weight ?
A bit but more among core boxing fans I would've thought.

All that said a Kovalev v Stevenson fight would interest me.
Evander
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 14049
Joined: 07 May 2005, 16:49

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by Evander »

Why can't they have that fight in Montreal ?
punchingpundit
Lightweight
Posts: 32
Joined: 30 Nov 2017, 03:55

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by punchingpundit »

Adonis Stevenson has punching power but when you compare that to his downsides it's no wonder why he has kept clear of the elite in the division. He has very sloppy skills, he tends to lose his balance alot and engage in slugfests that have resulted in him picking himself up off the floor by lesser opposition. He lacks good balance and as a previous poster stated he is one dimensional. He is athletic but nothing elite about him outside of above average punching power. For this reason, i have no doubt his career likely ends without fighting Kovalev, Beterbiev, Bivol, etc... he would not be able to match up with the skillset and well rounded athleticism of these guys who also have. This guy is ageing and fights once a year. He may shock everyone and fight someone for a massive payday to end his career against kovalev or beterbiev but he will be beaten so badly that he will be forgotten quicker than Kirk Jonhson.
Heretic
Super Middleweight
Posts: 2046
Joined: 28 Oct 2012, 07:18

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by Heretic »

punchingpundit wrote: 30 Nov 2017, 04:12 Adonis Stevenson has punching power but when you compare that to his downsides it's no wonder why he has kept clear of the elite in the division. He has very sloppy skills, he tends to lose his balance alot and engage in slugfests that have resulted in him picking himself up off the floor by lesser opposition. He lacks good balance and as a previous poster stated he is one dimensional. He is athletic but nothing elite about him outside of above average punching power. For this reason, i have no doubt his career likely ends without fighting Kovalev, Beterbiev, Bivol, etc... he would not be able to match up with the skillset and well rounded athleticism of these guys who also have. This guy is ageing and fights once a year. He may shock everyone and fight someone for a massive payday to end his career against kovalev or beterbiev but he will be beaten so badly that he will be forgotten quicker than Kirk Jonhson.
Who? :twisted:
DrDuke
Lightweight
Posts: 13878
Joined: 29 Nov 2017, 09:15

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by DrDuke »

The situation around his title defences is just ridiculous. The division has pretty much tough competitors, but WBC allows to chose somebody else, whose credibility is questionable.
punchingpundit
Lightweight
Posts: 32
Joined: 30 Nov 2017, 03:55

Re: tell me about adonis

Post by punchingpundit »

But he is effectively pulling himself out of any rankings and not being active makes him less likely to be considered, seriously against these other top shelf fighters. If and when he does decide to do something i doubt(very highly) that it will work out for him. The man is the oldest of all the top fighters in the division. Clearly at this point everyone who knows the state of the light heavies also knows that Stevenson is inactive and has done everything to avoid fighting the elites of the division. There will be a point where he will have to face the music or become even more irrelevent(if thats even possible).
Post Reply