Things We Don't Want To See in 2018!

Ruthless-RKO
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Things We Don't Want To See in 2018!

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

* Another PPV platform being created - Arum confirmed he will promote two cards on ESPN PPV. :witzend:

* Roy Jones Jr. fighting a dangerous opponent.

* For David Haye to have an injury-free year!

* May-Mac II
CasualQuaker
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Post by CasualQuaker »

More catch weight fights

The continuation of meangingless titles

Shocking cards and judges not being held accountable
jamamb
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Post by jamamb »

fans shitting on guys merely for losing, even at the highest levels
greg
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Post by greg »

- obvious home town decisions in high-profile bouts
- top boxers still fighting in their backyards
- athletic commissions appointing local judges/nationals in high-profile international fights
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Post by Ezzard »

Wilder and Ortiz being cancelled.
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Post by caldo2025 »

-Floyd Mayweather Jr in any capacity.
-Instant Replay ignored again and not considered as a tool for ref's to get it right. (knockdowns, fouls, etc)
-Bogus Canelo Scorecards.
-Tyson Fury shirtless
-The Charo's anywhere near a microphone.
-Max, RJJR and Jim's agenda and not calling the action as we see it.
-Mikey Garcia cherry picking more belts instead of taking fights that fans would like to see.
-"BOmmmmmmb Sqaaauddd!!!". Hated it the first time i heard it and more each time i hear it.
-Winning boxers thanking God and Al Haymon in the same sentence and not in that order.
-Leonard Ellerbe jock sniffing Floyd for another year.
-Mauro Ranallo and his ridiculous POP Culture references that only he understands. Go back to WWE.
-Dan Rafael as ESPN's Boxing Primary and his pathetic $35 webcam that he uses for interviews.
-I don't want to see that matchmaking in Boxing in 2017 was an aberration and one lucky year for fans.
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Post by Syntax Error »

Bermaine Stiverne's man boobs.
Bellew V Haye III.
Keith Thurman only having one fight all year.
Conor McGregor against another boxer, past or present.
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Post by SenorPipino »

Golovkin given the benefit of the doubt by judges simply because he comes forward and moves his hands more than the other guy.

It happened twice in 2017.

It's time judges learned how to score and rewarded only "effective" aggressiveness, instead of getting hypnotized by a fighter throwing a barrage of inconsequential punches.
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- Corrupted score cards
- English stoppages
- Boxers avoiding dangerous opponents
- Cherry picking opponents
- KO's with nutshots :evil:
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Post by Heretic »

Hmm after writing that down it is starting to feel like the correct answer would be

-Boxing :witzend:
Cent0089
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Post by Cent0089 »

Sh!tty undercards
littlepug
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Post by littlepug »

Heretic wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 06:01 - Corrupted score cards
- English stoppages
- Boxers avoiding dangerous opponents
- Cherry picking opponents
- KO's with nutshots :evil:
How often do you see fighters stopped with nutshots ? Not very often i will bet
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Post by MattCoke »

Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Jan 2018, 07:49 * Another PPV platform being created - Arum confirmed he will promote two cards on ESPN PPV. :witzend:

* Roy Jones Jr. fighting a dangerous opponent.

* For David Haye to have an injury-free year!

* May-Mac II
Why do you want David Haye not to have an injury free year? Or have I read that wrong and you want him to be injury free all year?
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Post by lazboy »

Adelaide Byrd’s feet. Oh I misread that, did not see don’t.
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Post by Enlightened-One »

I don’t want to see more boxers fail PED tests and for them all to cite the same lazy excuses, such as:
• “It must have been caused by contaminated meat”
• “It was due to drinking a stupidly expensive energy drink”
• “I forgot to disclose a medical condition that I can’t prove I have, because I’m perfectly well now, but sorry for not disclosing the masking agents… *cough* the blood pressure tablets on the paperwork”

I want to see the sports’ governing bodies avoid doing the following:
• Suddenly deciding to grant top-15 rankings to certain fighters, simply because they’re involved in a lucrative match-up, which subsequently leads to bigger sanctioning fees
• Allowing certain fighters that are on losing streaks to be granted opportunities to fight for vacant world titles, despite there being other fighters ranked above them
• Installing mandatory defences on unified champions without attempting to work with the other governing bodies to avoid a situation where the titleholder has to lose one of their belts
• Showing stupid amounts of leniency towards fighters that have failed PED tests or have failed to disclose their medication on their paperwork
• Applying their rules inconsistently, such as stripping fighters for losing if other have lost but retained their belts, or for not performing a mandatory defence within a specific timescale, whilst others have escaped punishment under identical circumstances

I don’t want to see anymore situations whereby the TV networks are the real reason why certain fights cannot be made, such as the almost insurmountable HBO-Showtime political barrier.

I don’t want to see fighters being accused of “ducking” if fight negotiations have never been attempted by either party or if it’s due to the TV networks or promoters refraining to work with each other... or if it's due one party submitting lowball offers and then boldly proclaiming “duck” when they’re subsequently rejected.

I want unduly biased fight fans to refrain from applying double-standards, such as two men committing the very same proverbial “crime”, which results in one of them being ridiculed and lambasted to obscene proportions, whilst they either creatively justify excuses for the other or they conveniently ignore the adverse situation that involved their favoured fighter altogether.

I want fight fans to refrain from making assumptions that are derogatory in nature about a particular fighter, solely based on the ignorance of the lazy lemming-like masses, where they all fail to fact-check their beliefs.

I want fight fans to refrain from being gullible, which means that when a particular fighter claims “nobody is volunteering to share the ring with me”, their claim shouldn’t be endorsed without evidence… and the same boxer that made that originally made that statement should not then be excused from facing title challengers that are calling them out!

I want fight fans to refrain from prematurely granting an honorary rite of passage to “greatness” to particular fighters without them having earned it by beating the very best fighters of the same age/era/size. A fighter should not be considered a pound-for-pounder based on passing the proverbial “eyeball” test against C-level opposition. Similarly, a fighter should not be proclaimed as the “Greatest of All Time” simply because they’ve engaged in several world title bouts against physically smaller world-class opposition.

I want to see fight fans refrain from making hideously obscene proclamations of robbery for closely-contested bouts where the vast majority of the audience believed there could have only been one or two points in it either way at most.
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Post by Ruthless-RKO »

MattCoke wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 07:13
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Jan 2018, 07:49 * Another PPV platform being created - Arum confirmed he will promote two cards on ESPN PPV. :witzend:

* Roy Jones Jr. fighting a dangerous opponent.

* For David Haye to have an injury-free year!

* May-Mac II
Why do you want David Haye not to have an injury free year? Or have I read that wrong and you want him to be injury free all year?
I may have worded it wrong. In simple English. I don't want Haye to get injured.
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* Adonis Stevenson avoiding his mandatory challenger again :witzend:
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Post by littlepug »

The Ibo joining the big 4 as a credible recognised title
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Post by Ruthless-RKO »

littlepug wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 09:52 The Ibo joining the big 4 as a credible recognised title
The belt doesn't make the boxer.. the boxer makes the belt. I think it's fine. IBO is already just as well known than the main 4 orgs anyway.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 10:37
littlepug wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 09:52 The Ibo joining the big 4 as a credible recognised title
The belt doesn't make the boxer.. the boxer makes the belt. I think it's fine. IBO is already just as well known than the main 4 orgs anyway.
oh, doesnt matter then does it ?
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SenorPipino wrote: 01 Jan 2018, 10:49 Golovkin given the benefit of the doubt by judges simply because he comes forward and moves his hands more than the other guy.

It happened twice in 2017.

It's time judges learned how to score and rewarded only "effective" aggressiveness, instead of getting hypnotized by a fighter throwing a barrage of inconsequential punches.
Idiots thinking that somebody won a fight, because they were blowing their cheeks, hitting their chest and talking to their opponent while running.
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Post by boxing_rocks »

Enlightened-One wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 08:08 I don’t want to see more boxers fail PED tests and for them all to cite the same lazy excuses, such as:
• “It must have been caused by contaminated meat”
• “It was due to drinking a stupidly expensive energy drink”
• “I forgot to disclose a medical condition that I can’t prove I have, because I’m perfectly well now, but sorry for not disclosing the masking agents… *cough* the blood pressure tablets on the paperwork”

I want to see the sports’ governing bodies avoid doing the following:
• Suddenly deciding to grant top-15 rankings to certain fighters, simply because they’re involved in a lucrative match-up, which subsequently leads to bigger sanctioning fees
• Allowing certain fighters that are on losing streaks to be granted opportunities to fight for vacant world titles, despite there being other fighters ranked above them
• Installing mandatory defences on unified champions without attempting to work with the other governing bodies to avoid a situation where the titleholder has to lose one of their belts
• Showing stupid amounts of leniency towards fighters that have failed PED tests or have failed to disclose their medication on their paperwork
• Applying their rules inconsistently, such as stripping fighters for losing if other have lost but retained their belts, or for not performing a mandatory defence within a specific timescale, whilst others have escaped punishment under identical circumstances

I don’t want to see anymore situations whereby the TV networks are the real reason why certain fights cannot be made, such as the almost insurmountable HBO-Showtime political barrier.

I don’t want to see fighters being accused of “ducking” if fight negotiations have never been attempted by either party or if it’s due to the TV networks or promoters refraining to work with each other... or if it's due one party submitting lowball offers and then boldly proclaiming “duck” when they’re subsequently rejected.

I want unduly biased fight fans to refrain from applying double-standards, such as two men committing the very same proverbial “crime”, which results in one of them being ridiculed and lambasted to obscene proportions, whilst they either creatively justify excuses for the other or they conveniently ignore the adverse situation that involved their favoured fighter altogether.

I want fight fans to refrain from making assumptions that are derogatory in nature about a particular fighter, solely based on the ignorance of the lazy lemming-like masses, where they all fail to fact-check their beliefs.

I want fight fans to refrain from being gullible, which means that when a particular fighter claims “nobody is volunteering to share the ring with me”, their claim shouldn’t be endorsed without evidence… and the same boxer that made that originally made that statement should not then be excused from facing title challengers that are calling them out!

I want fight fans to refrain from prematurely granting an honorary rite of passage to “greatness” to particular fighters without them having earned it by beating the very best fighters of the same age/era/size. A fighter should not be considered a pound-for-pounder based on passing the proverbial “eyeball” test against C-level opposition. Similarly, a fighter should not be proclaimed as the “Greatest of All Time” simply because they’ve engaged in several world title bouts against physically smaller world-class opposition.

I want to see fight fans refrain from making hideously obscene proclamations of robbery for closely-contested bouts where the vast majority of the audience believed there could have only been one or two points in it either way at most.
Conclusion: you shouldn't participate in this forum or better just stop watching boxing.
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Post by Enlightened-One »

boxing_rocks wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 11:16
Enlightened-One wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 08:08 I don’t want to see more boxers fail PED tests and for them all to cite the same lazy excuses, such as:
• “It must have been caused by contaminated meat”
• “It was due to drinking a stupidly expensive energy drink”
• “I forgot to disclose a medical condition that I can’t prove I have, because I’m perfectly well now, but sorry for not disclosing the masking agents… *cough* the blood pressure tablets on the paperwork”

I want to see the sports’ governing bodies avoid doing the following:
• Suddenly deciding to grant top-15 rankings to certain fighters, simply because they’re involved in a lucrative match-up, which subsequently leads to bigger sanctioning fees
• Allowing certain fighters that are on losing streaks to be granted opportunities to fight for vacant world titles, despite there being other fighters ranked above them
• Installing mandatory defences on unified champions without attempting to work with the other governing bodies to avoid a situation where the titleholder has to lose one of their belts
• Showing stupid amounts of leniency towards fighters that have failed PED tests or have failed to disclose their medication on their paperwork
• Applying their rules inconsistently, such as stripping fighters for losing if other have lost but retained their belts, or for not performing a mandatory defence within a specific timescale, whilst others have escaped punishment under identical circumstances

I don’t want to see anymore situations whereby the TV networks are the real reason why certain fights cannot be made, such as the almost insurmountable HBO-Showtime political barrier.

I don’t want to see fighters being accused of “ducking” if fight negotiations have never been attempted by either party or if it’s due to the TV networks or promoters refraining to work with each other... or if it's due one party submitting lowball offers and then boldly proclaiming “duck” when they’re subsequently rejected.

I want unduly biased fight fans to refrain from applying double-standards, such as two men committing the very same proverbial “crime”, which results in one of them being ridiculed and lambasted to obscene proportions, whilst they either creatively justify excuses for the other or they conveniently ignore the adverse situation that involved their favoured fighter altogether.

I want fight fans to refrain from making assumptions that are derogatory in nature about a particular fighter, solely based on the ignorance of the lazy lemming-like masses, where they all fail to fact-check their beliefs.

I want fight fans to refrain from being gullible, which means that when a particular fighter claims “nobody is volunteering to share the ring with me”, their claim shouldn’t be endorsed without evidence… and the same boxer that made that originally made that statement should not then be excused from facing title challengers that are calling them out!

I want fight fans to refrain from prematurely granting an honorary rite of passage to “greatness” to particular fighters without them having earned it by beating the very best fighters of the same age/era/size. A fighter should not be considered a pound-for-pounder based on passing the proverbial “eyeball” test against C-level opposition. Similarly, a fighter should not be proclaimed as the “Greatest of All Time” simply because they’ve engaged in several world title bouts against physically smaller world-class opposition.

I want to see fight fans refrain from making hideously obscene proclamations of robbery for closely-contested bouts where the vast majority of the audience believed there could have only been one or two points in it either way at most.
Conclusion: you shouldn't participate in this forum or better just stop watching boxing.
Have you never complained about some of the things I’ve listed?

I don’t expect you to answer, since you already know that your posting history would render it categorically impossible to deny this, resulting in you admitting to being a hypocrite. :TU:
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Excuses after Joseph Parker knocks out Joshua.
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Wilder - Stiverne 3
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