Most "bad people" boxing has seen?

[lazboy]

Anthony Joshua; drug dealer and bully of Eddie Chambers.

[Kalan]

Ali had also done some despicable stuff. For example, to Frazier. Joe gave him money, while Ali had no license. But before their first encounter Ali started all pre-fight trash talk, which transformed to real rivalry, it turned out to be a betrayal. Joe and his family had some troubles and life threats because of Ali and his supporters

Ali did more good than bad... He had some dumb ideas about race and Uncle Toms, and he treated some people badly... That was more of a marketing thing, but he seemed to relish belittling his opponents.

The bigger issue is the social good he did by taking a stand against the Viet Nam War even though it hurt his popularity because most people didn't have the long term vision Ali did about international matters... On social issues and international relations Ali was very good... When he started taking about race and religion I was embarrassed for him.. He was indoctrinated by the Black Muslims... I always liked Malcolm X... I knew he was very bright and would find the truth one day... It cost him his life when he did... Ali also found the truth... He knew that racial identity didn't define people after he was 40 or so.

[Wales]

The worst of the worst was Ruben "Hurricane" Carter. What brought that monster to mind is some fool here using some leftist Hollywood bs to try to glorify it.

Carter was a vicious multiple murderer that the leftist Hollywood crowd tries to glorify with their lies. Look up the truth about Carter - but don't try to find anything on google anymore because it is now censored and politically corrected.

http://graphicwitness.com/carter/

You can also see, and adjudicate, for yourself his fight with Joey Giardello online, the fight that Norman Jewison "re-enacted" in his 1999 Hollywood propaganda movie glorifying Carter as having been easily won by Carter but awarded to JG only because the judges were "racist".

There was a right hoo-ha over the film being incredibly inaccurate wasn’t there. The film portrayed him as a really nice fella. A victim of the system. By all accounts he was a right tosser.

That film ‘Captain Phillips’ is the same - unlike the portrayal in the film, he was a proper bellend. Well, according to the crew on his boat that is

[UrbanFox]

Some horrible characters described in this topic.

More recently, Billy Joe Saunders had a fight cancelled against Avtandil 'mini Mike Tyson' Khurtsidze who had beaten Tommy Langford inside 5 rounds.
The guy is currently sitting in prison for racketeering, robbery and murder for hire charges!
http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id ... cy-charges

[Ruthless-RKO]

Some horrible characters described in this topic.

More recently, Billy Joe Saunders had a fight cancelled against Avtandil 'mini Mike Tyson' Khurtsidze who had beaten Tommy Langford inside 5 rounds.
The guy is currently sitting in prison for racketeering, robbery and murder for hire charges!
http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id ... cy-charges

Oh yeh, How can we forget him. It was discussed right here on these forums just 7 months ago

[SenorPipino]

Capt Bob Roper used to bring a snake into the rig with him at the beginning of fignts. He's the SOB who gouged out Greb's left eye

Unfortunate, I suppose, but it's hard to shed tears over Greb.

Historically, he's always been viewed as one of the dirtiest fighters to ever lace up gloves.

If Greb never blinded an opponent, it wasn't for lack of trying.

[Taansend]

A guy everyone thought was really bad was Tony Ayala Jr....

He was one of the most talented boxers EVER and a really nice, fun kid when he was in a good mood... But for some stupid reason nobody could ever figure out, he had to be a bad ass... He would punch somebody if they looked at him wrong... Instead of shining mouthy people on - you meet big mouths all the time - he'd hit them... He was told a number of times to let people be and ignore them... He couldn't do that.

He seemed to have very little common sense when it came to women... If they turned him down they were a whore, bitch, dyke, tramp....he took it personally... He had about 20 straight professional wins when he was still a teenager... The man would have made millions and millions had he kept his nose clean... He was money in the bank.

He broke into a women's apartment, tied her up an raped her... He did a very long stretch in prison... When he came out 17 years later he resumed his boxing career and started winning again in his late 30's... But he lost a couple to better fighters because that's too big a gap in experience to close... He broke into an apartment of 2 women and one shot him before he could commit rape or anything... He did very little time for that because it was just breaking and entry.. He got 10 years probation --which he violated by speeding, driving without a license and using heroin and got sent to prison again... He died at 52 of a drug overdose... What a waste of talent.

He was very very overrated. The only waste was the lives he ruined. Guy was a grade A shitbag.

Didn't it come out that he was raped as a kid or something

Not defending him. I just seem to remember this....

[Taansend]

The worst of the worst was Ruben "Hurricane" Carter. What brought that monster to mind is some fool here using some leftist Hollywood bs to try to glorify it.

Who did that then?

[chinarich]

The worst of the worst was Ruben "Hurricane" Carter. What brought that monster to mind is some fool here using some leftist Hollywood bs to try to glorify it.

Who did that then?

Must've been Bob when he had an account here...

https://youtu.be/piEl-dHGuRk

[Tomasino]

A guy everyone thought was really bad was Tony Ayala Jr....

He was one of the most talented boxers EVER and a really nice, fun kid when he was in a good mood... But for some stupid reason nobody could ever figure out, he had to be a bad ass... He would punch somebody if they looked at him wrong... Instead of shining mouthy people on - you meet big mouths all the time - he'd hit them... He was told a number of times to let people be and ignore them... He couldn't do that.

He seemed to have very little common sense when it came to women... If they turned him down they were a whore, bitch, dyke, tramp....he took it personally... He had about 20 straight professional wins when he was still a teenager... The man would have made millions and millions had he kept his nose clean... He was money in the bank.

He broke into a women's apartment, tied her up an raped her... He did a very long stretch in prison... When he came out 17 years later he resumed his boxing career and started winning again in his late 30's... But he lost a couple to better fighters because that's too big a gap in experience to close... He broke into an apartment of 2 women and one shot him before he could commit rape or anything... He did very little time for that because it was just breaking and entry.. He got 10 years probation --which he violated by speeding, driving without a license and using heroin and got sent to prison again... He died at 52 of a drug overdose... What a waste of talent.

He was very very overrated. The only waste was the lives he ruined. Guy was a grade A shitbag.

Didn't it come out that he was raped as a kid or something

Not defending him. I just seem to remember this....

Most of these guys say this after they are caught. I know plenty people who have been raped and abused and they don’t break into random pads and tie and torture folk.

Guy was a POS mate

[Ilya Muromets]

The worst of the worst was Ruben "Hurricane" Carter. What brought that monster to mind is some fool here using some leftist Hollywood bs to try to glorify it.

Who did that then?

Tony 1244, using a giant sig youtube link about him, on the Povetkin thread.

[Tony1244]

The worst of the worst was Ruben "Hurricane" Carter. What brought that monster to mind is some fool here using some leftist Hollywood bs to try to glorify it.

Who did that then?

Tony 1244, using a giant sig youtube link about him, on the Povetkin thread.

I didn't do that. Someone else did that. I merely commented that it is not the well known version of the song.

Its a decent song. When I listen to it I don't care if he was guilty or innocent. I'm listening to a song period. You all are so PC.

[KiwiRider]

Some horrible characters described in this topic.

More recently, Billy Joe Saunders had a fight cancelled against Avtandil 'mini Mike Tyson' Khurtsidze who had beaten Tommy Langford inside 5 rounds.
The guy is currently sitting in prison for racketeering, robbery and murder for hire charges!
http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id ... cy-charges

That must be a typo. Should read "miget for hire"

[SenorPipino]

The worst of the worst was Ruben "Hurricane" Carter. What brought that monster to mind is some fool here using some leftist Hollywood bs to try to glorify it.

Carter was a vicious multiple murderer that the leftist Hollywood crowd tries to glorify with their lies. Look up the truth about Carter - but don't try to find anything on google anymore because it is now censored and politically corrected.

http://graphicwitness.com/carter/

You can also see, and adjudicate, for yourself his fight with Joey Giardello online, the fight that Norman Jewison "re-enacted" in his 1999 Hollywood propaganda movie glorifying Carter as having been easily won by Carter but awarded to JG only because the judges were "racist".

I love Dylan's song "Hurricane."

The use of harmonica is outstanding.

More than 40 years after it was released I still play it on bar jukeboxes.

But Dylan made Carter out to be some genteel gift to society instead of the thug he really was:
"Ruben could take a man out with just one punch, but he never really liked to talk about it all that much
'It's my work,' he'd say, 'And I do it for pay. And when it's all over I'd just as soon go in my way.'

"Up to some paradise, where the trout streams flow and the air is nice. And ride a horse along a trail, until they took him to the jailhouse where they tried to turn a man into a mouse "

Somehow I can't picture bad ass, ghetto dwelling Ruben Carter going horseback riding in some Shangri-La setting.

Dylan made Carter, who spent much of his pre-boxing youth in various detention centers, sound like Jesus Christ incarnate.

[Tony1244]

The worst of the worst was Ruben "Hurricane" Carter. What brought that monster to mind is some fool here using some leftist Hollywood bs to try to glorify it.

Carter was a vicious multiple murderer that the leftist Hollywood crowd tries to glorify with their lies. Look up the truth about Carter - but don't try to find anything on google anymore because it is now censored and politically corrected.

http://graphicwitness.com/carter/

You can also see, and adjudicate, for yourself his fight with Joey Giardello online, the fight that Norman Jewison "re-enacted" in his 1999 Hollywood propaganda movie glorifying Carter as having been easily won by Carter but awarded to JG only because the judges were "racist".

I love Dylan's song "Hurricane."

The use of harmonica is outstanding.

More than 40 years after it was released I still play it on bar jukeboxes.

But Dylan made Carter out to be some genteel gift to society instead of the thug he really was:
"Ruben could take a man out with just one punch, but he never really liked to talk about it all that much
'It's my work,' he'd say, 'And I do it for pay. And when it's all over I'd just as soon go in my way.'

"Up to some paradise, where the trout streams flow and the air is nice. And ride a horse along a trail, until they took him to the jailhouse where they tried to turn a man into a mouse "

Somehow I can't picture bad ass, ghetto dwelling Ruben Carter going horseback riding in some Shangri-La setting.

Dylan made Carter, who spent much of his pre-boxing youth in various detention centers, sound like Jesus Christ incarnate.

You are absolutely right, señor. Poetic license. Speaking of which, "Señor" is also a very good Bob Dylan song.

[SenorPipino]

I'm waiting for Dylan to write an ode to Pipino Cuevas, since he has such an affinity for boxing.

He 's released songs dedicted to Carter and the original (and tragic) Davey Moore and also a diddy where he referenced fighting Cassius Clay.

Dylan doesn't seem like the boxing type but he supposedly dabbles in it and has his own personal boxing gym.

[Tony1244]

I'm waiting for Dylan to write an ode to Pipino Cuevas, since he has such an affinity for boxing.

Songs dedicted to Carter and the original (and tragic) Davey Moore and also a diddy where he referenced fighting Cassius Clay.

Dylan doesn't seem like the boxing type but he supposedly dabbles in it and has his own personal boxing gym.

He seems like a boxing fan to me, maybe because I'm a fan of both. Dylan does a good version of Warren Zevon's Boom Boom Mancini. "Hurry on early, hurry on home, Boom Boom Mancini is fighting Bobby Chacon."

Supposedly Ray Mancini is making a living training famous people and Dylan is one of them.

[Ilya Muromets]

The worst of the worst was Ruben "Hurricane" Carter. What brought that monster to mind is some fool here using some leftist Hollywood bs to try to glorify it.

Carter was a vicious multiple murderer that the leftist Hollywood crowd tries to glorify with their lies. Look up the truth about Carter - but don't try to find anything on google anymore because it is now censored and politically corrected.

http://graphicwitness.com/carter/

You can also see, and adjudicate, for yourself his fight with Joey Giardello online, the fight that Norman Jewison "re-enacted" in his 1999 Hollywood propaganda movie glorifying Carter as having been easily won by Carter but awarded to JG only because the judges were "racist".

I love Dylan's song "Hurricane."

The use of harmonica is outstanding.

More than 40 years after it was released I still play it on bar jukeboxes.

But Dylan made Carter out to be some genteel gift to society instead of the thug he really was:
"Ruben could take a man out with just one punch, but he never really liked to talk about it all that much
'It's my work,' he'd say, 'And I do it for pay. And when it's all over I'd just as soon go in my way.'

"Up to some paradise, where the trout streams flow and the air is nice. And ride a horse along a trail, until they took him to the jailhouse where they tried to turn a man into a mouse "

Somehow I can't picture bad ass, ghetto dwelling Ruben Carter going horseback riding in some Shangri-La setting.

Dylan made Carter, who spent much of his pre-boxing youth in various detention centers, sound like Jesus Christ incarnate.

Speaking of horses and the murderer, Ruben Carter, that the Hollywood crowd loves so much...he once sucker punched an unsuspecting horse and caused it to crumple to the ground.

[Tony1244]

The worst of the worst was Ruben "Hurricane" Carter. What brought that monster to mind is some fool here using some leftist Hollywood bs to try to glorify it.

Carter was a vicious multiple murderer that the leftist Hollywood crowd tries to glorify with their lies. Look up the truth about Carter - but don't try to find anything on google anymore because it is now censored and politically corrected.

http://graphicwitness.com/carter/

You can also see, and adjudicate, for yourself his fight with Joey Giardello online, the fight that Norman Jewison "re-enacted" in his 1999 Hollywood propaganda movie glorifying Carter as having been easily won by Carter but awarded to JG only because the judges were "racist".

I love Dylan's song "Hurricane."

The use of harmonica is outstanding.

More than 40 years after it was released I still play it on bar jukeboxes.

But Dylan made Carter out to be some genteel gift to society instead of the thug he really was:
"Ruben could take a man out with just one punch, but he never really liked to talk about it all that much
'It's my work,' he'd say, 'And I do it for pay. And when it's all over I'd just as soon go in my way.'

"Up to some paradise, where the trout streams flow and the air is nice. And ride a horse along a trail, until they took him to the jailhouse where they tried to turn a man into a mouse "

Somehow I can't picture bad ass, ghetto dwelling Ruben Carter going horseback riding in some Shangri-La setting.

Dylan made Carter, who spent much of his pre-boxing youth in various detention centers, sound like Jesus Christ incarnate.

Speaking of horses and the murderer, Ruben Carter, that the Hollywood crowd loves so much...he once sucker punched an unsuspecting horse and caused it to crumple to the ground.

I believe Roberto Duran did the same thing. I don't think the "Hollywood crowd" has given Carter one thought in two decades.

[SenorPipino]

Didn't Duran do that?

Sorry Tony1244, I see that you beat me to the punch.

[Tony1244]

Didn't Duran do that?

Sorry Tony1244, I see that you beat me to the punch.

Not something I condone whether you're a convicted murderer or arguably the best lightweight of all time.

[SenorPipino]

Didn't Duran do that?

Sorry Tony1244, I see that you beat me to the punch.

Not something I condone whether you're a convicted murderer or arguably the best lightweight of all time.

Neither of them would ever be in the good graces of PETA.

[Tony1244]

Didn't Duran do that?

Sorry Tony1244, I see that you beat me to the punch.

Not something I condone whether you're a convicted murderer or arguably the best lightweight of all time.

Neither of them would ever be in the good graces of PETA.

I like the spirit of PETA but its not going to keep me from eating chicken and an occasional steak.

[Tony1244]

The worst of the worst was Ruben "Hurricane" Carter. What brought that monster to mind is some fool here using some leftist Hollywood bs to try to glorify it.

Carter was a vicious multiple murderer that the leftist Hollywood crowd tries to glorify with their lies. Look up the truth about Carter - but don't try to find anything on google anymore because it is now censored and politically corrected.

http://graphicwitness.com/carter/

You can also see, and adjudicate, for yourself his fight with Joey Giardello online, the fight that Norman Jewison "re-enacted" in his 1999 Hollywood propaganda movie glorifying Carter as having been easily won by Carter but awarded to JG only because the judges were "racist".

I love Dylan's song "Hurricane."

The use of harmonica is outstanding.

More than 40 years after it was released I still play it on bar jukeboxes.

But Dylan made Carter out to be some genteel gift to society instead of the thug he really was:
"Ruben could take a man out with just one punch, but he never really liked to talk about it all that much
'It's my work,' he'd say, 'And I do it for pay. And when it's all over I'd just as soon go in my way.'

"Up to some paradise, where the trout streams flow and the air is nice. And ride a horse along a trail, until they took him to the jailhouse where they tried to turn a man into a mouse "

Somehow I can't picture bad ass, ghetto dwelling Ruben Carter going horseback riding in some Shangri-La setting.

Dylan made Carter, who spent much of his pre-boxing youth in various detention centers, sound like Jesus Christ incarnate.

Speaking of horses and the murderer, Ruben Carter, that the Hollywood crowd loves so much...he once sucker punched an unsuspecting horse and caused it to crumple to the ground.

In retrospect, Hurricane was likely guilty.

[Awesom-O]

A guy everyone thought was really bad was Tony Ayala Jr....

He was one of the most talented boxers EVER and a really nice, fun kid when he was in a good mood... But for some stupid reason nobody could ever figure out, he had to be a bad ass... He would punch somebody if they looked at him wrong... Instead of shining mouthy people on - you meet big mouths all the time - he'd hit them... He was told a number of times to let people be and ignore them... He couldn't do that.

He seemed to have very little common sense when it came to women... If they turned him down they were a whore, bitch, dyke, tramp....he took it personally... He had about 20 straight professional wins when he was still a teenager... The man would have made millions and millions had he kept his nose clean... He was money in the bank.

He broke into a women's apartment, tied her up an raped her... He did a very long stretch in prison... When he came out 17 years later he resumed his boxing career and started winning again in his late 30's... But he lost a couple to better fighters because that's too big a gap in experience to close... He broke into an apartment of 2 women and one shot him before he could commit rape or anything... He did very little time for that because it was just breaking and entry.. He got 10 years probation --which he violated by speeding, driving without a license and using heroin and got sent to prison again... He died at 52 of a drug overdose... What a waste of talent.

He also raped a girl in the bathroom of a drive in movie theatre in San Antonio when he was a teenager, but managed to avoid being locked up and got probation. He was a sick fornicate.

Jake LaMotta was an admitted rapist. Jo-El Scott, Carlos Monzon, Eric Morel, all did heinous crimes.