Arnie. wrote: ↑02 Jan 2018, 19:47
Speak for urself u clown don't bring my name into ur gripe with boxing, I'm happy in my gym knowing what I am doing, hopefully the rest of the coaches Uv mentioned are too, u have got my number and know where my gym is, so instead of mentioning me publicly have the balls to ring or come to gym,
I
Wind your neck in farnell you mouthpiece
What the eff’s going on here?!?!?!
I’ll tell you what - the next Eddie Hearn novelty grudge PPV match.
Farnell vs Mickey
On the undercard will be Joe Fournier winning, sorry I mean fighting, for some WBA special world title.
Colour commentary by Pimp
Hearn’s a mealy mouthed twerp. He’ll bully the smaller names when it suits him, but you can be SURE if it involved one of his money making darlings who’d put their foot in mouth, like Josh, he’d have them issue an apology and that’s be that.
Hearn comes over worse in this than the clueless O’hara
MightyWarrior wrote: ↑04 Jan 2018, 05:38
Hearn’s a mealy mouthed twerp. He’ll bully the smaller names when it suits him, but you can be SURE if it involved one of his money making darlings who’d put their foot in mouth, like Josh, he’d have them issue an apology and that’s be that.
Hearn comes over worse in this than the clueless O’hara
I like Eddie Hearn, but I agree with much of what you say. He's handled this situation very badly and showed a lack of loyalty.
I believe he allowed himself to be bullied by some of his 'pals' and his credibility has taken a genuine knock here.
handsofstone wrote: ↑02 Jan 2018, 14:57
I assume Sims does whatever Eddie tells him to
I don’t think there is many people out there that would be able to tell Sims what to do Never mind Eddie.
Aye your probably right, i'd like to think that boxing trainers wouldn't allow to be told what to do by a promoter, they do obviously have a close relationship though, isn't every one of Sims fighters with Matchroom?
I'm pretty sure Sims is Hearns brother in law, he's also Davis's Manager.
Arnie. wrote: ↑02 Jan 2018, 19:47
Speak for urself u clown don't bring my name into ur gripe with boxing, I'm happy in my gym knowing what I am doing, hopefully the rest of the coaches Uv mentioned are too, u have got my number and know where my gym is, so instead of mentioning me publicly have the balls to ring or come to gym,
I
Wind your neck in farnell you mouthpiece
What the eff’s going on here?!?!?!
I’ll tell you what - the next Eddie Hearn novelty grudge PPV match.
Farnell vs Mickey
On the undercard will be Joe Fournier winning, sorry I mean fighting, for some WBA special world title.
Colour commentary by Pimp
F#ck sake, don't overmatch me. Dirk, on the undercard I'll take.
handsofstone wrote: ↑02 Jan 2018, 14:57
I assume Sims does whatever Eddie tells him to
I don’t think there is many people out there that would be able to tell Sims what to do Never mind Eddie.
Aye your probably right, i'd like to think that boxing trainers wouldn't allow to be told what to do by a promoter, they do obviously have a close relationship though, isn't every one of Sims fighters with Matchroom?
Sims' daughter (from TOWIE) and Eddie's wife are both business partners.
I’ll tell you what - the next Eddie Hearn novelty grudge PPV match.
Farnell vs Mickey
On the undercard will be Joe Fournier winning, sorry I mean fighting, for some WBA special world title.
Colour commentary by Pimp
F#ck sake, don't overmatch me. Dirk, on the undercard I'll take.
Shit sorry - card change (still £24.95 on sky though.) I misunderstood the beef. Is Stevenson who is fighting Farnelll in the main. Mickey’s on the undercard and will be boxing TBA for the interim WBA super international title.
It’s going to be a barnburner then with a stacked undercard. I can tell you this is one event no one will want to miss, Johnny Nelson has already opined that TBA will likely give Mickey the fight of his life and Fournier’s world title win, sorry challenge will be history making.
dookus wrote: ↑01 Jan 2018, 13:58
Total fúcking bollocks overreaction and yet another sop to the hordes of thin-skinned shitehawks intent on driving everything remotely controversial out of public life. Davies is being hauled over the coals and having his career stalled for a slightly close-to-the-bone jibe at someone who doesn't even come from effing Liverpool (and it would be a total overreaction even if he did). In Eddie Hearn's version of boxing, border tasteless windups as a means of promoting legalised violence are now unacceptable in case some fans take offence! In a sport where David Haye was wearing T-shirts with his opponent's severed head (and that of his brother) to press conferences a few years ago!
Im a liverpool fan and im married to a scouser,when i first saw the headlines i thought "what a piece of sh1t OD is bringing up this disaster" but then when iv read the tweets and saw his apology i cant believe mr hearn has pulled him from the card,the only reason i can think of why Eddie has done this is because he is that close to bellew and the smith brothers they have had their say on it and i reckon hearn has asked their opinion and they have said fck him off. Hearn lets some fighters have too much of a say in the dealings of matchroom. OD has said he is sorry on more than one occasion so thats fair play in my eyes, let him fight now dont stop a man earning a crust,for god sake this sport is tough enough to earn money for the up and comers without pulling fit fighters from cards.
Taansend wrote: ↑02 Jan 2018, 11:21
He's getting some unsavoury abuse from simpletons now
Check out @OharaDavies’s Tweet:
There are some vile people in this world.
Davies is a bellend....this is fact.
However giving him racist abuse is much much worse than anything he has done.
I honestly think he is that thick he knows nothing about the sun, Hillsborough and Liverpool FC. All he said was buy the sun which is one of the best selling papers in the UK.
If he beat Josh Taylor I doubt he would have been thrown under the bus like he has.
just curious why is insulting on race worse than insulting on in born stuff like looks and intelligence.like if someone objectively has a big nose or there eyes are too close together and he makes them feel bad about it, why is that worse than someone going after his skin.in a way racial comments are a form of apoearence comments because ppl see from his looks that hes black.
or insulting someone for being unintelligent (ppl do it to quigg a lot), stuttering etc
jamamb wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 03:52
just curious why is insulting on race worse than insulting on in born stuff like looks and intelligence.like if someone objectively has a big nose or there eyes are too close together and he makes them feel bad about it, why is that worse than someone going after his skin.in a way racial comments are a form of apoearence comments because ppl see from his looks that hes black.
or insulting someone for being unintelligent (ppl do it to quigg a lot), stuttering etc
Because racism against black people stems from the days of colonialism when sub saharan Africans were considered a lesser race than Europeans and were treated as such.
So yes, calling someone ni**er is worse than making fun of someone who has a big nose or chubby cheeks as there is no history of people being considered subhuman due to big noses and chubby cheeks.
Although making fun of someone's looks or lack of intelligence is not right either, really.
ya but just for example intelligence tests used to be done to treat ppl as far lesser and promote ideas of eugenics to stop the breeding of unintelligent ppl and force sterilization upon them by screwing up their bodies. that sometimes happened. theres history there too. and ugly or dumb ppl still face ample proven discrimination and prejuduce in everyday life and insults about those types of things can be very hurtful. many ppl for example struggle with body dispmorphic disorder, anorexia, etc and it contributes to depression and suicide.
i mean i just dont see why there should be this massive gap in how harshly the insults are viewed. like if i call someone an ugly bastard or unintelligent fool its just crass banter, unplesant but no big whoop, but sound the alarm loud if black skin bastards mentioned?
all of them are cruel hurtful remarks that shouldnt be uttered btw. dont take this as me saying the racism isnt awful
When Ohara first came on the scene, I'll put my hands up and say I was a fan, and thought someone like him would do British boxing good. It all started to go downhill when Eddie suggest he should reinvent himself, the blonde hair, being extremely controversial, saying he doesn't have fans etc etc.
Now, I just think he has been managed extremely poorly, I don't think he has the right people behind him. He tries to be in the spotlight to much - I think hanging around the towie cast members has made him want the fame and fortune too much.
jamamb wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 06:07
ya but just for example intelligence tests used to be done to treat ppl as far lesser and promote ideas of eugenics to stop the breeding of unintelligent ppl and force sterilization upon them by screwing up their bodies. that sometimes happened. theres history there too. and ugly or dumb ppl still face ample proven discrimination and prejuduce in everyday life and insults about those types of things can be very hurtful. many ppl for example struggle with body dispmorphic disorder, anorexia, etc and it contributes to depression and suicide.
i mean i just dont see why there should be this massive gap in how harshly the insults are viewed. like if i call someone an ugly bastard or unintelligent fool its just crass banter, unplesant but no big whoop, but sound the alarm loud if black skin bastards mentioned?
all of them are cruel hurtful remarks that shouldnt be uttered btw. dont take this as me saying the racism isnt awful
It isn't right to ridicule someone unnecessarily. It can only be classed as banter if you know the person isn't overly sensitive about the subject matter.
For example, I have friends who don't mind being called stupid or fat, as long as the joke doesn't go too far.
But in this situation, Davies has done something very very stupid and to have people call him such is to be expected..
But for people to start bringing his skin colour into it is wrong, as it implies that his ignorance or lack of intelligence is due to his ancestry and is an insult to an entire race rather than just the individual responsible.
Regardless of his comments on the sun and Liverpool, he's a complete knob end anyway. Couldn't love him if he was your own son. Speaks like a fanny, fights like a fanny.
jamamb wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 03:52
just curious why is insulting on race worse than insulting on in born stuff like looks and intelligence.like if someone objectively has a big nose or there eyes are too close together and he makes them feel bad about it, why is that worse than someone going after his skin.in a way racial comments are a form of apoearence comments because ppl see from his looks that hes black.
or insulting someone for being unintelligent (ppl do it to quigg a lot), stuttering etc
Because racism against black people stems from the days of colonialism when sub saharan Africans were considered a lesser race than Europeans and were treated as such.
So yes, calling someone ni**er is worse than making fun of someone who has a big nose or chubby cheeks as there is no history of people being considered subhuman due to big noses and chubby cheeks.
Although making fun of someone's looks or lack of intelligence is not right either, really.
Ginger people used to be culled on mass back in those days too.
jamamb wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 03:52
just curious why is insulting on race worse than insulting on in born stuff like looks and intelligence.like if someone objectively has a big nose or there eyes are too close together and he makes them feel bad about it, why is that worse than someone going after his skin.in a way racial comments are a form of apoearence comments because ppl see from his looks that hes black.
or insulting someone for being unintelligent (ppl do it to quigg a lot), stuttering etc
Because racism against black people stems from the days of colonialism when sub saharan Africans were considered a lesser race than Europeans and were treated as such.
So yes, calling someone ni**er is worse than making fun of someone who has a big nose or chubby cheeks as there is no history of people being considered subhuman due to big noses and chubby cheeks.
Although making fun of someone's looks or lack of intelligence is not right either, really.
jamamb wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 03:52
just curious why is insulting on race worse than insulting on in born stuff like looks and intelligence.like if someone objectively has a big nose or there eyes are too close together and he makes them feel bad about it, why is that worse than someone going after his skin.in a way racial comments are a form of apoearence comments because ppl see from his looks that hes black.
or insulting someone for being unintelligent (ppl do it to quigg a lot), stuttering etc
Because racism against black people stems from the days of colonialism when sub saharan Africans were considered a lesser race than Europeans and were treated as such.
So yes, calling someone ni**er is worse than making fun of someone who has a big nose or chubby cheeks as there is no history of people being considered subhuman due to big noses and chubby cheeks.
Although making fun of someone's looks or lack of intelligence is not right either, really.
Hearn throwing Davies under the bus left, right and centre today on various interviews.
W@rren should make a play for him and stick him in with Jack Catterall.
Be a good fighter for W@rrens Copper Box shows...
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