Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?

Who'd have won this in 2013?

Fury KO
8
17%
Fury PTS
17
35%
Haye KO
21
44%
Haye PTS
1
2%
Draw
1
2%
 
Total votes: 48

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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?

Post by Crease »

Back then, Tyson had not yet matured enough. I went to watch Fury against Kevin Johnson back in late 2012, and I remember thinking that Haye would give him am torrid time.

I think Haye would have stopped him around that period of time.

These days, Fury bashes him up. Too big and too fast.
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Coco wrote: 03 Jan 2018, 17:03
Riddick Blowe wrote: 03 Jan 2018, 15:05 Haye would have stopped any version of Fury.
The Haye version that lost to Bellew?
No, I'm talking about the best version of Haye.
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dirk2686 wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 09:27
mickey1975 wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 07:30
Coco wrote: 03 Jan 2018, 17:03

The Haye version that lost to Bellew?
Or the version of Tyson who beat the very same Wlad who Haye sh!t himself against....
Fury only landed 14 more punches in his supposed masterclass than Haye did in his supposed humiliation. Wlad had a better night against Haye end of but you can't really use that fight as a yardstick. Fury took advantage of Wlad not turning up and knew that, hence bottling the rematch.
Exactly, everyone in those two fights sucked. There is no yardstick.
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Riddick Blowe wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 09:24
Coco wrote: 03 Jan 2018, 17:03
Riddick Blowe wrote: 03 Jan 2018, 15:05 Haye would have stopped any version of Fury.
The Haye version that lost to Bellew?
No, I'm talking about the best version of Haye.
I fear the best version of Haye had long gone by 2013
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?

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Coco wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 09:43
Riddick Blowe wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 09:24
Coco wrote: 03 Jan 2018, 17:03

The Haye version that lost to Bellew?
No, I'm talking about the best version of Haye.
I fear the best version of Haye had long gone by 2013
i meant the best heavyweight version
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Riddick Blowe wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 09:46
Coco wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 09:43
Riddick Blowe wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 09:24

No, I'm talking about the best version of Haye.
I fear the best version of Haye had long gone by 2013
i meant the best heavyweight version
Let's invent a time machine then. Tyson was ready to shock the world that night. Haye didn't want it.
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?

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Very tricky one to call.

At the time I was sure Haye would KO him as he had just been put down heavily by Cunningham and seemed ripe for Haye's big overhand right but it's hard to say with certainty in hindsight. If the Fury that fought Chisora in 2014 and then Klitschko in 2015 turned up then Haye would have had big problems landing cleanly and I could have seen Fury wearing him down and stopping him late as Haye tired.

Real shame the fight never took place.
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Chippo wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 10:19 Haye would have stopped Fury in 2013. Faster, better boxing skills and more punching power. Fury's poor basics and weak chin would have cost him dearly. And I think he knew it, I remember in the press conference when he declined a stare down with Haye.
Watch it again then, and the Ringside which was filmed that day.
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Chippo wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 10:19 Haye would have stopped Fury in 2013. Faster, better boxing skills and more punching power. Fury's poor basics and weak chin would have cost him dearly. And I think he knew it, I remember in the press conference when he declined a stare down with Haye.
Fury used Haye pulling out as a big opportunity to present Haye as a guy who was scared and to show himself as the ultimate fighting man. This works for a while, but then he bottled two Wlad rematches and ducked the Ustinov fight because his uncle was ill. All seemed far weaker excuses than Haye, who genuinely did have surgery.
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dirk2686 wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 10:41
Chippo wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 10:19 Haye would have stopped Fury in 2013. Faster, better boxing skills and more punching power. Fury's poor basics and weak chin would have cost him dearly. And I think he knew it, I remember in the press conference when he declined a stare down with Haye.
Fury used Haye pulling out as a big opportunity to present Haye as a guy who was scared and to show himself as the ultimate fighting man. This works for a while, but then he bottled two Wlad rematches and ducked the Ustinov fight because his uncle was ill. All seemed far weaker excuses than Haye, who genuinely did have surgery.
His uncle, first trainer, father figure whilst Peter and John were in prison actually died from that illness. Dickhead.
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Coco wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 09:43I fear the best version of Haye had long gone by 2013
Perhaps. But he did a helluva number on Dereck Chisora maybe a year or so before that time...
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mickey1975 wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 10:56
dirk2686 wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 10:41
Chippo wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 10:19 Haye would have stopped Fury in 2013. Faster, better boxing skills and more punching power. Fury's poor basics and weak chin would have cost him dearly. And I think he knew it, I remember in the press conference when he declined a stare down with Haye.
Fury used Haye pulling out as a big opportunity to present Haye as a guy who was scared and to show himself as the ultimate fighting man. This works for a while, but then he bottled two Wlad rematches and ducked the Ustinov fight because his uncle was ill. All seemed far weaker excuses than Haye, who genuinely did have surgery.
His uncle, first trainer, father figure whilst Peter and John were in prison actually died from that illness. Dickhead.
About six months later. Buster Douglas fought and beat Mike Tyson just after his mother had died. Tyson does the whole fighting man thing when it suits but that was a nonsense excuse and you know it.
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i remember de la hoya would never look at opponents during instructions. the body language stuff can be funny and imo often misleading.
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I watched the press conference and don't have a clue how he's read that into it?
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People are still bigging up Haye and talking about Fury like he's a bum on here?

What a dump this place is.
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?

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First round KO win for Tyson Fury ofcourse, the other guy is a cruiserweight lol
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?

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Fury would of stopped him late.

Easy easy work. Leaning his weight on the cruiserweight for 7 rounds would of took its toll.

Similar stoppage to the Cunning ham fight. Haye throws in singles and that would of been food and drink for Tyson.
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Fitzy901 wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 16:42 Fury would of stopped him late.

Easy easy work. Leaning his weight on the cruiserweight for 7 rounds would of took its toll.

Similar stoppage to the Cunning ham fight. Haye throws in singles and that would of been food and drink for Tyson.
ORRRR, Haye lands a big right hand like Cunningham did, but finishes the job.
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Riddick Blowe wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 08:36ORRRR, Haye lands a big right hand like Cunningham did, but finishes the job.
Haye's power is overrated.

Haye wouldn't have been able to land enough to stop Fury.
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Riddick Blowe wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 08:36
Fitzy901 wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 16:42 Fury would of stopped him late.

Easy easy work. Leaning his weight on the cruiserweight for 7 rounds would of took its toll.

Similar stoppage to the Cunning ham fight. Haye throws in singles and that would of been food and drink for Tyson.
ORRRR, Haye lands a big right hand like Cunningham did, but finishes the job.
Haye not as long limbed as Cunningham, Fury would have made those lack of inches count imo...
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:lol:
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Fury points

Haye would've struggled with fury size and wouldn't be able to get the job done
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?

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If Fury was 100% focused for the whole fight, he could walk away with a decision, but I think he would have got cocky and Haye would have knocked him out.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 11:41 If Fury was 100% focused for the whole fight, he could walk away with a decision, but I think he would have got cocky and Haye would have knocked him out.
Before the Cunningham fight yes, but he learned a lot in that fight.
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Coco wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 12:42
keithmoonhangover wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 11:41 If Fury was 100% focused for the whole fight, he could walk away with a decision, but I think he would have got cocky and Haye would have knocked him out.
Before the Cunningham fight yes, but he learned a lot in that fight.
I agree that Cunningham was a learning experience, but Tyson can be hit with the right and if connected, he'd go down.

It's the same for Joshua-Fury. Tyson can win that fight in great shape and fully focused, if not, he's gonna take a beating.
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