Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
Back then, Tyson had not yet matured enough. I went to watch Fury against Kevin Johnson back in late 2012, and I remember thinking that Haye would give him am torrid time.
I think Haye would have stopped him around that period of time.
These days, Fury bashes him up. Too big and too fast.
I think Haye would have stopped him around that period of time.
These days, Fury bashes him up. Too big and too fast.
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
Exactly, everyone in those two fights sucked. There is no yardstick.dirk2686 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2018, 09:27Fury only landed 14 more punches in his supposed masterclass than Haye did in his supposed humiliation. Wlad had a better night against Haye end of but you can't really use that fight as a yardstick. Fury took advantage of Wlad not turning up and knew that, hence bottling the rematch.mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2018, 07:30Or the version of Tyson who beat the very same Wlad who Haye sh!t himself against....
Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
I fear the best version of Haye had long gone by 2013Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 09:24No, I'm talking about the best version of Haye.
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
Let's invent a time machine then. Tyson was ready to shock the world that night. Haye didn't want it.Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 09:46i meant the best heavyweight version
Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
Very tricky one to call.
At the time I was sure Haye would KO him as he had just been put down heavily by Cunningham and seemed ripe for Haye's big overhand right but it's hard to say with certainty in hindsight. If the Fury that fought Chisora in 2014 and then Klitschko in 2015 turned up then Haye would have had big problems landing cleanly and I could have seen Fury wearing him down and stopping him late as Haye tired.
Real shame the fight never took place.
At the time I was sure Haye would KO him as he had just been put down heavily by Cunningham and seemed ripe for Haye's big overhand right but it's hard to say with certainty in hindsight. If the Fury that fought Chisora in 2014 and then Klitschko in 2015 turned up then Haye would have had big problems landing cleanly and I could have seen Fury wearing him down and stopping him late as Haye tired.
Real shame the fight never took place.
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
Watch it again then, and the Ringside which was filmed that day.
Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
Fury used Haye pulling out as a big opportunity to present Haye as a guy who was scared and to show himself as the ultimate fighting man. This works for a while, but then he bottled two Wlad rematches and ducked the Ustinov fight because his uncle was ill. All seemed far weaker excuses than Haye, who genuinely did have surgery.
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
His uncle, first trainer, father figure whilst Peter and John were in prison actually died from that illness. Dickhead.dirk2686 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 10:41Fury used Haye pulling out as a big opportunity to present Haye as a guy who was scared and to show himself as the ultimate fighting man. This works for a while, but then he bottled two Wlad rematches and ducked the Ustinov fight because his uncle was ill. All seemed far weaker excuses than Haye, who genuinely did have surgery.
Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
About six months later. Buster Douglas fought and beat Mike Tyson just after his mother had died. Tyson does the whole fighting man thing when it suits but that was a nonsense excuse and you know it.mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 10:56His uncle, first trainer, father figure whilst Peter and John were in prison actually died from that illness. Dickhead.dirk2686 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 10:41Fury used Haye pulling out as a big opportunity to present Haye as a guy who was scared and to show himself as the ultimate fighting man. This works for a while, but then he bottled two Wlad rematches and ducked the Ustinov fight because his uncle was ill. All seemed far weaker excuses than Haye, who genuinely did have surgery.
Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
i remember de la hoya would never look at opponents during instructions. the body language stuff can be funny and imo often misleading.
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
I watched the press conference and don't have a clue how he's read that into it?
Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
People are still bigging up Haye and talking about Fury like he's a bum on here?
What a dump this place is.
What a dump this place is.
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
First round KO win for Tyson Fury ofcourse, the other guy is a cruiserweight lol
Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
Fury would of stopped him late.
Easy easy work. Leaning his weight on the cruiserweight for 7 rounds would of took its toll.
Similar stoppage to the Cunning ham fight. Haye throws in singles and that would of been food and drink for Tyson.
Easy easy work. Leaning his weight on the cruiserweight for 7 rounds would of took its toll.
Similar stoppage to the Cunning ham fight. Haye throws in singles and that would of been food and drink for Tyson.
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
ORRRR, Haye lands a big right hand like Cunningham did, but finishes the job.
Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
Haye's power is overrated.Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 08:36ORRRR, Haye lands a big right hand like Cunningham did, but finishes the job.
Haye wouldn't have been able to land enough to stop Fury.
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
Haye not as long limbed as Cunningham, Fury would have made those lack of inches count imo...Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 08:36ORRRR, Haye lands a big right hand like Cunningham did, but finishes the job.
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
Fury points
Haye would've struggled with fury size and wouldn't be able to get the job done
Haye would've struggled with fury size and wouldn't be able to get the job done
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
If Fury was 100% focused for the whole fight, he could walk away with a decision, but I think he would have got cocky and Haye would have knocked him out.
Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
Before the Cunningham fight yes, but he learned a lot in that fight.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:41 If Fury was 100% focused for the whole fight, he could walk away with a decision, but I think he would have got cocky and Haye would have knocked him out.
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Re: Fury v Haye late 2013 - how would it have gone?
I agree that Cunningham was a learning experience, but Tyson can be hit with the right and if connected, he'd go down.Coco wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 12:42Before the Cunningham fight yes, but he learned a lot in that fight.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:41 If Fury was 100% focused for the whole fight, he could walk away with a decision, but I think he would have got cocky and Haye would have knocked him out.
It's the same for Joshua-Fury. Tyson can win that fight in great shape and fully focused, if not, he's gonna take a beating.