is "quitting" the same as "losing"?

littlepug
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Re: is "quitting" the same as "losing"?

Post by littlepug »

man wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 15:57
Chippo wrote: 03 Jan 2018, 03:55Now, to us mere mortals, a torn rotator cuff would certainly derail us from an athletic event but in the hurt business, many fighters have continued fighting with this injury and worse.
i find it outright disgusting if fans
sit on their couch and demand a
fighter to continue although he is
injured.

just ... disgusting.
I don't think any fan would demand that, but the fighters that do go beyond what is expected of them are rightly given the utmost respect
man
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Re: is "quitting" the same as "losing"?

Post by man »

littlepug wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 16:04
man wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 15:57
Chippo wrote: 03 Jan 2018, 03:55Now, to us mere mortals, a torn rotator cuff would certainly derail us from an athletic event but in the hurt business, many fighters have continued fighting with this injury and worse.
i find it outright disgusting if fans
sit on their couch and demand a
fighter to continue although he is
injured.

just ... disgusting.
I don't think any fan would demand that, but the fighters that do go beyond what is expected of them are rightly given the utmost respect
90% of the people on this very board
demand exactly this very thing.
Guelwaar
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Re: is "quitting" the same as "losing"?

Post by Guelwaar »

man wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 16:02
Guelwaar wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:20what doesn't make sense is to have rules if you're not even interested in enforcing them...boxing has rules and the intention should always be to enforce them ...
boxing has rules and they were
followed to the letter in this bout.

The ref and the timekeeper disagree with you.
man
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Re: is "quitting" the same as "losing"?

Post by man »

Guelwaar wrote: 07 Jan 2018, 00:18
man wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 16:02
Guelwaar wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:20what doesn't make sense is to have rules if you're not even interested in enforcing them...boxing has rules and the intention should always be to enforce them ...
boxing has rules and they were
followed to the letter in this bout.

The ref and the timekeeper disagree with you.
i haven't checked that. my guess is
they would say something along the
lines of "the count was longer than
ten seconds", which you would see
as proving your point, while i would
say this is totally in line with the rules
of boxing.
Guelwaar
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Re: is "quitting" the same as "losing"?

Post by Guelwaar »

man wrote: 07 Jan 2018, 13:09
Guelwaar wrote: 07 Jan 2018, 00:18
man wrote: 05 Jan 2018, 16:02
boxing has rules and they were
followed to the letter in this bout.

The ref and the timekeeper disagree with you.
i haven't checked that. my guess is
they would say something along the
lines of "the count was longer than
ten seconds", which you would see
as proving your point, while i would
say this is totally in line with the rules
of boxing.
the count being longer than 10 seconds is not in line with the rules of boxing....that's why they have a timekeeper.
man
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Re: is "quitting" the same as "losing"?

Post by man »

"In the event of any knockdown, the timekeepers count will cease when picked up by the referee whose count shall prevail and be relied on by the boxers."

4.4. here:
http://www.worldboxingfederation.net/wb ... ations.htm
Guelwaar
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Re: is "quitting" the same as "losing"?

Post by Guelwaar »

man wrote: 09 Jan 2018, 14:17 "In the event of any knockdown, the timekeepers count will cease when picked up by the referee whose count shall prevail and be relied on by the boxers."

4.4. here:
http://www.worldboxingfederation.net/wb ... ations.htm
what's a world boxing federation?
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