Cult heroes....

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Tomasino wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 19:22
Stuarty30 wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 19:19
Tomasino wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 19:16


He was hard as nails Anderson. Muttley could hit!
He was. I thought initially that he'd spank Kevin McIntyre but he was completely schooled twice! I even thought Anderson would win the rematch and the first was a one off but he was schooled again. McIntyre was a classy southpaw though and could cause problems for most domestically when he was on his game (Kell Brook aside lol)
I think Ando was fucked up after the wars. He just couldnt get past Kevs jab...I honestly thought MacIntyre would give Brook some bother!
Yeah apart from Muttley he had a couple of tough fights with Africans too, uh shit, Naamembe? And uh, Okine?
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Oh yeah and he went 12 tough rounds with Franny Jones too
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I'm going with only non British as there'd be loads otherwise.

Mahyar Monshipour - French Iranian brawler who was Super Bantie Champ back in 2003-06. Very exciting fighter who was in some classic brawls (Ring mag fight of the year I think).

Khaosai Galaxy - lost his 7th pro fight then reeled off 40 wins in a row. Was in 20 World title fights and won them all, mostly by knockout.

Brian Mitchell - In an amazing coincidence Mitchell, ,like Galaxy, lost his 7th pro fight over 10 rounds in a regional title bout & never lost again in 49 bouts (Galaxy had 48). Travelled the world beating the best at 130. Fantastic technician.

Sergio Martinez - Nuff said

Chiquita Gonzalez - The 90'ss had some incredible Light Flyweights around in Gonzalez, Michael Carbajal, Scotty Olsen, Baby Jake Matlala and soome other bloke whose name escapes me at the moment. Gonzalez was a 5 foot 1 puncher who changed styles to outfox Carbajal TWICE getting kayoed in their firstt bout.
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Where's Carl Thompson?! Glen Johnson and Woods? Enzo, maybe.

Pirog's probably at the top of my list. McCallum and Julian Jackson are right up there, as well.
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Grilling Machine wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 21:57 Where's Carl Thompson?! Glen Johnson and Woods? Enzo, maybe.

Pirog's probably at the top of my list. McCallum and Julian Jackson are right up there, as well.
Hell I thought everybody loved Julian Jackson, but if he's a cult hero you can mark him down as one of mine as well.

Glen Johnson too
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John Simpson was always one of my favourite domestic fighters, if he can be considered a cult hero.
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jamie cox

corrie sanders also has cult folliwings on multiple boxing history forums. youd think his left hand was the hardest, fastest punch in boxing history
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Have to disagree about Danny Williams I'm afraid. Most of the time I found him very frustrating due to lack of work rate and desire. I always thought he was the most talented out of that crop of British heavies but god he put in some dire performances. The extraordinary bravery he showed in the Potter and Vitali performances showed what he was capable of when his head was in it. Plus he had decent hand speed and some craft when he bothered to apply them, which wasn't often.
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Knucklez wrote: 24 Jan 2018, 04:22 Have to disagree about Danny Williams I'm afraid. Most of the time I found him very frustrating due to lack of work rate and desire. I always thought he was the most talented out of that crop of British heavies but god he put in some dire performances. The extraordinary bravery he showed in the Potter and Vitali performances showed what he was capable of when his head was in it. Plus he had decent hand speed and some craft when he bothered to apply them, which wasn't often.
Ultimately, despite some of his best wins happening after, he was never the same after the Samil Sam fight (there is another cult hero of mine). I don't think he had the belief in his strength / punch resistance after and seemed to geniunely feel that he was better with all that added bulk. I know he mocked his weight and his love of Mr Kipling - but when he was heavy it was always a "bulk up" not a tyre around the belly.

He showed great bravery vs Klitchsko, but he fought like a crab that night. I really think Danny had the talent to be a geniune world champion, he was as good as the likes of Brewester, Briggs and Liakovich - but he just didn't apply himself as you rightly say.... and then make up the craziest of excuses for his defeats.
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My cult heros were John Westgarth and Steve Gee.

I always looked forward to Fight Night back in the late 80s and early 90s hoping either would be fighting.

Ive always had a fastination with Paul Sykes but wouldnt say he was a 'hero'
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Butterbean - remember the pub we used to go to before the match showing highlight reels of him knocking people out with dubbed commentary.

Graham earl - crazy how much punishment he took against katsidis - looked out on his feet round after round - think you sort of wanted to watch him after that to see just how much he could take.
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Jimmy Vincent during the Indian summer.. War horse and loved the peekaboo style!
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Richard "The Secret" Williams.
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Ajif Djelti
Donovan Boucher
Mpush Mkambi
Seb Rothmann

Crawford Ashley
Ross Hale
CAT
Ensley Bingham

re: Mutley/Anderson, didn't Mutley shatter several of his molars? I remember them taking out his gum-shield with some difficulty.
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stujones wrote: 24 Jan 2018, 04:57
Knucklez wrote: 24 Jan 2018, 04:22 Have to disagree about Danny Williams I'm afraid. Most of the time I found him very frustrating due to lack of work rate and desire. I always thought he was the most talented out of that crop of British heavies but god he put in some dire performances. The extraordinary bravery he showed in the Potter and Vitali performances showed what he was capable of when his head was in it. Plus he had decent hand speed and some craft when he bothered to apply them, which wasn't often.
Ultimately, despite some of his best wins happening after, he was never the same after the Samil Sam fight (there is another cult hero of mine). I don't think he had the belief in his strength / punch resistance after and seemed to geniunely feel that he was better with all that added bulk. I know he mocked his weight and his love of Mr Kipling - but when he was heavy it was always a "bulk up" not a tyre around the belly.

He showed great bravery vs Klitchsko, but he fought like a crab that night. I really think Danny had the talent to be a geniune world champion, he was as good as the likes of Brewester, Briggs and Liakovich - but he just didn't apply himself as you rightly say.... and then make up the craziest of excuses for his defeats.
Didn't he suffer badly from nerves? Always used to throw up before fights etc.
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Dennis Andries and Tony Sibson, so when they fought I was pumped.
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Herol Graham,also hector camacho and jorge paez purely on what they'd come into the ring dressed like
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Butterbean - for being a fat fcuker who used to spark everyone out

Graham earl- after the katsidis fight
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Chris Edwards deserves a mention. A journeyman flyweight winning the British title.
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I had a few "cult heroes" whose careers I was keeping track of.

Mehrdud Takaloo
I seen him fighting back in the late 90s/early 00s on some show and he had a high stoppage rate against his opponents. I thought he was going on to the big time, but he lost his big chance against Santos. I always enjoyed watching him.

Sinan Samil Sam
A tough guy with a big pair of balls. He first came to my attention back in the early 2000s when he beat Danny Williams and defended his European Heavyweight title. After that win, I was keeping track of him and I was hoping that he could've slid into WBC title contention when Vitali retired the first time, but alas he never got his big shot for a World title.

Kevin McBride
McBride became something of an Irish phenomenon when he stopped Mike Tyson. He became "the Irish guy who beat Tyson" and a lot of us were kennly watching and waiting for him to push on... But when he came up against decent opponents in their prime, he was beaten handily enough.
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Crease wrote: 24 Jan 2018, 08:45 I had a few "cult heroes" whose careers I was keeping track of.

Mehrdud Takaloo
I seen him fighting back in the late 90s/early 00s on some show and he had a high stoppage rate against his opponents. I thought he was going on to the big time, but he lost his big chance against Santos. I always enjoyed watching him.

getting flattened by Wayne Alexander also dented his chances

Sinan Samil Sam
A tough guy with a big pair of balls. He first came to my attention back in the early 2000s when he beat Danny Williams and defended his European Heavyweight title. After that win, I was keeping track of him and I was hoping that he could've slid into WBC title contention when Vitali retired the first time, but alas he never got his big shot for a World title.

Sam defeated Audley in the amateurs.... I think European or world championships? Unfortunately Sinan died through alcohol abuse at 40 I think....

Kevin McBride
McBride became something of an Irish phenomenon when he stopped Mike Tyson. He became "the Irish guy who beat Tyson" and a lot of us were kennly watching and waiting for him to push on... But when he came up against decent opponents in their prime, he was beaten handily enough.


Funnily enough. Although Tyson was shot, I thought McBride boxed really well in that match.
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fizzjambo wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 18:17
Stuarty30 wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 18:04
sgtcecil wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 17:33 Always enjoyed watching Kevin Anderson - the drama in his win against Young Mutley was fantastic. Don’t recall the locals enjoying it in the same way as I did!

What happened to Anderson?
Always wondered what happened to him. Kevin McIntyre schooled him twice and he seemed to just disappear. The Mutley win was a cracking win for him. Was behind if I remember correctly then banged him out in the tenth. There was a fair bit of crowd trouble. He beat a past his best Eamonn Magee as well which was still a good win for him. Magee was a hard bastard!
Kevin failed a brain scan in the build up to a fight and never fought again. Still kicking about Methil/Leven in Fife, think he works in a factory now. Lad I know through work is pally with him
Cheers Jambo - sad that his career ended that way but good that he got a scan and flagged up an issue before it could be worse.

A tight defence was not his forte!
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Knucklez wrote: 24 Jan 2018, 04:22 Have to disagree about Danny Williams I'm afraid. Most of the time I found him very frustrating due to lack of work rate and desire. I always thought he was the most talented out of that crop of British heavies but god he put in some dire performances. The extraordinary bravery he showed in the Potter and Vitali performances showed what he was capable of when his head was in it. Plus he had decent hand speed and some craft when he bothered to apply them, which wasn't often.
Agree with this - I found him hugely frustrating. Suppose what you say above however will be why he will be a cult hero with people!
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Ross Hale was a good call.

Also more than deserving of a mention - "prepare to unleash...Geoff McCreesh"
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Great idea for a thread and some great responses so far :TU:
On the world stage it would have to be:
Ricardo Mayorga (nuff said)
Emanuel Augustus - though this article about his current condition is 'heart-breaking': http://www.athletesquarterly.com/athlet ... -man-down/

Among the Brits:
Dennis Andries - Just loved his mindset: "OK, so I've just lost to Tommy Hearns... I'll go to the Kronk and train there to get better then...."
Colin Lynes - Young Mutley has been mentioned a few times on here but I loved the way Lynes went into the Lion's Den and schooled him with that textbook jab. Lynes has just always struck me as an old-school throwback in the best possible sense.
Ross Hale - just me being biased as he put Bristol back on the map for boxing
Shaun Cummins - don't like acknowledging this given his history, but when 'The Guv'ner' made his ring walk at Shepton Mallet on a Hamed undercard he just had a lot of swagger and attitude.
Wayne Alexander - nuff said... never in a dull fight!
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